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En el artículo , Syd Rumpo
escribió: My dad worked at a small local exchange. As kids in the holidays, my sister and I would creep round in the gloom to be scared by the sudden unpredictable stepping of the Strowger switches. The engineers called them 'click'n'bang" because of the noise they made. I saw a working Strowger exchange in the Liverpool area shortly before it was converted to System X. This was in the days when BT exchanges had 'open days', long gone. It was fascinating watching the uniselectors in action, clicking stepping up as the first digit of the number was dialled, then along as the second number was dialled, followed by the bang when the line cleared and it reset. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNNKLuM8yY8 As part of the System X migration, there were massive bundles of blue and yellow twisted pair cables connecting each individual line from the old Strowger frames to the new System X. It was quite a sight. The battery room was also interesting - maybe a couple of hundred huge floor standing lead acid batteries wired to massive bare copper bus bars running horizontally at about 8ft off the floor. The engineer showing me around did warn not to touch them -- :: je suis Charlie :: yo soy Charlie :: ik ben Charlie :: |
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On 06/05/2015 21:28, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , Syd Rumpo escribió: My dad worked at a small local exchange. As kids in the holidays, my sister and I would creep round in the gloom to be scared by the sudden unpredictable stepping of the Strowger switches. The engineers called them 'click'n'bang" because of the noise they made. I saw a working Strowger exchange in the Liverpool area shortly before it was converted to System X. This was in the days when BT exchanges had 'open days', long gone. It was fascinating watching the uniselectors in action, clicking stepping up as the first digit of the number was dialled, then along as the second number was dialled, followed by the bang when the line cleared and it reset. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNNKLuM8yY8 As part of the System X migration, there were massive bundles of blue and yellow twisted pair cables connecting each individual line from the old Strowger frames to the new System X. It was quite a sight. The battery room was also interesting - maybe a couple of hundred huge floor standing lead acid batteries wired to massive bare copper bus bars running horizontally at about 8ft off the floor. The engineer showing me around did warn not to touch them Yes, I remember once seeing the battery room in the main exchange - I recall that each 2V cell was about a metre cube (but I was very small). In that exchange they had some sort of bomb shelter stocked with boxes of rations which they'd sell to staff every few years when they were renewed. Tins of beans, corned beef, chocolate, oatmeal biscuits - it was a real treat. Cheers -- Syd |
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In message , Jim GM4DHJ ...
writes "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... On 06/05/15 14:19, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Nightjar .me.uk" "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote in message ... On 06/05/2015 12:13, Bod wrote: ... For a start, we had fresh milk delivered everyday and people didn't normally stock up with a week's or month's supply of perishable foods, like we tend to today. I remember mum shopping every few days for something or other. I remember being sent out to buy something almost every day, at an age when kids are probably kept indoors these days, once I had been trained how to recognise whether things like eggs and fish were fresh. that was in the days when hens eggs were white....... some still are - check out the supermarket... nobody wants white eggs as in the past brown eggs were perceived as special...probably just a colour in the feed though ..... No, it's the breed of hens. -- Chris French |
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In message , Nightjar
writes On 06/05/2015 12:54, Charlie wrote: ... That's my experience of the mid-fifties. In the summer my mum would stand the unopened milk in a bucket of cold water in the outhouse but when that got warm she would boil the milk so that it would keep longer... Butter and milk were kept under unglazed terracotta shaped covers, which stood in glazed dishes that were kept topped up with water. Evaporative cooling kept them surprisingly cool. We do the same kind of thing when camping without electric. Milk standing in a bowl of water, with a damp cloth over. -- Chris French |
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"Chris French" wrote in message news In message , Jim GM4DHJ ... writes "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... On 06/05/15 14:19, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Nightjar .me.uk" "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote in message ... On 06/05/2015 12:13, Bod wrote: ... For a start, we had fresh milk delivered everyday and people didn't normally stock up with a week's or month's supply of perishable foods, like we tend to today. I remember mum shopping every few days for something or other. I remember being sent out to buy something almost every day, at an age when kids are probably kept indoors these days, once I had been trained how to recognise whether things like eggs and fish were fresh. that was in the days when hens eggs were white....... some still are - check out the supermarket... nobody wants white eggs as in the past brown eggs were perceived as special...probably just a colour in the feed though ..... No, it's the breed of hens. interesting thanks ..... |
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"harryagain" wrote in message ... "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... On 06/05/15 14:19, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Nightjar .me.uk" "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote in message ... On 06/05/2015 12:13, Bod wrote: ... For a start, we had fresh milk delivered everyday and people didn't normally stock up with a week's or month's supply of perishable foods, like we tend to today. I remember mum shopping every few days for something or other. I remember being sent out to buy something almost every day, at an age when kids are probably kept indoors these days, once I had been trained how to recognise whether things like eggs and fish were fresh. that was in the days when hens eggs were white....... some still are - check out the supermarket... nobody wants white eggs as in the past brown eggs were perceived as special...probably just a colour in the feed though ..... No, the breed of hen. interesting thanks ... |
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On 07/05/2015 07:38, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"Chris French" wrote in message news In message , Jim GM4DHJ ... writes "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... On 06/05/15 14:19, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Nightjar .me.uk" "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote in message ... On 06/05/2015 12:13, Bod wrote: ... For a start, we had fresh milk delivered everyday and people didn't normally stock up with a week's or month's supply of perishable foods, like we tend to today. I remember mum shopping every few days for something or other. I remember being sent out to buy something almost every day, at an age when kids are probably kept indoors these days, once I had been trained how to recognise whether things like eggs and fish were fresh. that was in the days when hens eggs were white....... some still are - check out the supermarket... nobody wants white eggs as in the past brown eggs were perceived as special...probably just a colour in the feed though ..... No, it's the breed of hens. interesting thanks ..... Yup and some breeds even produce blue/green and even speckly eggs. |
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"Bod" wrote in message ... On 07/05/2015 07:38, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Chris French" wrote in message news In message , Jim GM4DHJ ... writes "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... On 06/05/15 14:19, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Nightjar .me.uk" "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote in message ... On 06/05/2015 12:13, Bod wrote: ... For a start, we had fresh milk delivered everyday and people didn't normally stock up with a week's or month's supply of perishable foods, like we tend to today. I remember mum shopping every few days for something or other. I remember being sent out to buy something almost every day, at an age when kids are probably kept indoors these days, once I had been trained how to recognise whether things like eggs and fish were fresh. that was in the days when hens eggs were white....... some still are - check out the supermarket... nobody wants white eggs as in the past brown eggs were perceived as special...probably just a colour in the feed though ..... No, it's the breed of hens. interesting thanks ..... Yup and some breeds even produce blue/green and even speckly eggs. I thought it was just a pink flamingo type thing...... |
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I remember being sent out to buy something almost every day, at an age when kids are probably kept indoors these days, once I had been trained how to recognise whether things like eggs and fish were fresh. that was in the days when hens eggs were white....... some still are - check out the supermarket... nobody wants white eggs as in the past brown eggs were perceived as special...probably just a colour in the feed though ..... No, it's the breed of hens. interesting thanks ..... Yup and some breeds even produce blue/green and even speckly eggs. I thought it was just a pink flamingo type thing...... It's all about the chicken The answer is so simple that you may be surprised. White-feathered chickens with white ear lobes lay white eggs and red-feathered ones with red ear lobes lay brown eggs (this may not apply to all breeds). And besides that, there are certain chickens that even lay speckled eggs and blue eggs. But when you get down to the egg, nutritionally there is no difference -- it's all just in the looks. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1342583.html |
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"Bod" wrote in message ... I remember being sent out to buy something almost every day, at an age when kids are probably kept indoors these days, once I had been trained how to recognise whether things like eggs and fish were fresh. that was in the days when hens eggs were white....... some still are - check out the supermarket... nobody wants white eggs as in the past brown eggs were perceived as special...probably just a colour in the feed though ..... No, it's the breed of hens. interesting thanks ..... Yup and some breeds even produce blue/green and even speckly eggs. I thought it was just a pink flamingo type thing...... It's all about the chicken The answer is so simple that you may be surprised. White-feathered chickens with white ear lobes lay white eggs and red-feathered ones with red ear lobes lay brown eggs (this may not apply to all breeds). And besides that, there are certain chickens that even lay speckled eggs and blue eggs. But when you get down to the egg, nutritionally there is no difference -- it's all just in the looks. I don't think I could eat a white egg these days...no choice in the past..... |
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On 07/05/2015 08:02, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"Bod" wrote in message ... I remember being sent out to buy something almost every day, at an age when kids are probably kept indoors these days, once I had been trained how to recognise whether things like eggs and fish were fresh. that was in the days when hens eggs were white....... some still are - check out the supermarket... nobody wants white eggs as in the past brown eggs were perceived as special...probably just a colour in the feed though ..... No, it's the breed of hens. interesting thanks ..... Yup and some breeds even produce blue/green and even speckly eggs. I thought it was just a pink flamingo type thing...... It's all about the chicken The answer is so simple that you may be surprised. White-feathered chickens with white ear lobes lay white eggs and red-feathered ones with red ear lobes lay brown eggs (this may not apply to all breeds). And besides that, there are certain chickens that even lay speckled eggs and blue eggs. But when you get down to the egg, nutritionally there is no difference -- it's all just in the looks. I don't think I could eat a white egg these days...no choice in the past..... Really? The colour doesn't bother me. All in the mind, I suppose. |
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"Bod" wrote in message ... On 07/05/2015 08:02, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Bod" wrote in message ... I remember being sent out to buy something almost every day, at an age when kids are probably kept indoors these days, once I had been trained how to recognise whether things like eggs and fish were fresh. that was in the days when hens eggs were white....... some still are - check out the supermarket... nobody wants white eggs as in the past brown eggs were perceived as special...probably just a colour in the feed though ..... No, it's the breed of hens. interesting thanks ..... Yup and some breeds even produce blue/green and even speckly eggs. I thought it was just a pink flamingo type thing...... It's all about the chicken The answer is so simple that you may be surprised. White-feathered chickens with white ear lobes lay white eggs and red-feathered ones with red ear lobes lay brown eggs (this may not apply to all breeds). And besides that, there are certain chickens that even lay speckled eggs and blue eggs. But when you get down to the egg, nutritionally there is no difference -- it's all just in the looks. I don't think I could eat a white egg these days...no choice in the past..... Really? The colour doesn't bother me. All in the mind, I suppose. yes ...I am damaged with issues .... |
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On 07/05/2015 08:14, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"Bod" wrote in message ... On 07/05/2015 08:02, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Bod" wrote in message ... I remember being sent out to buy something almost every day, at an age when kids are probably kept indoors these days, once I had been trained how to recognise whether things like eggs and fish were fresh. that was in the days when hens eggs were white....... some still are - check out the supermarket... nobody wants white eggs as in the past brown eggs were perceived as special...probably just a colour in the feed though ..... No, it's the breed of hens. interesting thanks ..... Yup and some breeds even produce blue/green and even speckly eggs. I thought it was just a pink flamingo type thing...... It's all about the chicken The answer is so simple that you may be surprised. White-feathered chickens with white ear lobes lay white eggs and red-feathered ones with red ear lobes lay brown eggs (this may not apply to all breeds). And besides that, there are certain chickens that even lay speckled eggs and blue eggs. But when you get down to the egg, nutritionally there is no difference -- it's all just in the looks. I don't think I could eat a white egg these days...no choice in the past..... Really? The colour doesn't bother me. All in the mind, I suppose. yes ...I am damaged with issues .... Lol. |
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On 07/05/2015 08:02, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"Bod" wrote in message .... I don't think I could eat a white egg these days...no choice in the past..... There was, but it wasn't necessarily easy to exercise. My mother used to think that the brown ones tasted better, so I had to go to the only place that sold them, which was the local fishmongers. -- Colin Bignell |
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On Thu, 07 May 2015 08:04:06 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Thu, 7 May 2015 07:38:55 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote: "harryagain" wrote in message ... "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... nobody wants white eggs as in the past brown eggs were perceived as special...probably just a colour in the feed though ..... No, the breed of hen. interesting thanks ... You can even get pale blue or pale green hens' eggs http://tinyurl.com/k5mzcbm We have two farmers who sell by the half-dozen (£1). The one up the road has large brown or white eggs. The one down the road has medium sized eggs, brown, white and blue. -- AnthonyL |
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"AnthonyL" wrote in message ... On Thu, 07 May 2015 08:04:06 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote: On Thu, 7 May 2015 07:38:55 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote: "harryagain" wrote in message ... "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... nobody wants white eggs as in the past brown eggs were perceived as special...probably just a colour in the feed though ..... No, the breed of hen. interesting thanks ... You can even get pale blue or pale green hens' eggs http://tinyurl.com/k5mzcbm We have two farmers who sell by the half-dozen (£1). The one up the road has large brown or white eggs. The one down the road has medium sized eggs, brown, white and blue. £1 !...all the buggers up here charge at least £1.50 ........ |
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On Wed, 6 May 2015 13:11:10 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote: "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... "Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Wed, 06 May 2015 12:11:07 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... On 06/05/15 12:05, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: wrote in message ... On Wednesday, 6 May 2015 11:29:42 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Why in this age of energy conservation did they do away with vented larders and the daylight requirement in kitchens ? ..... they dont keep goods below 5C, so food poisoning incidence is much higher. NT how did we survive in the 50's and 60's ....... Shopping everyday. ....with a sting bag and a co-op number like 14716 ........... My mum's number was 8747...lower! But the she worked for the Co-Op from the age of 14... funny how you can remember a number when you hear it every day as a bairn Doesn’t need to be every day either, I can still remember a couple of phone numbers from the time when I was in the bottom end of highschool. you had a phone? ..LUXURY....We didn't have one 'till '66 ....0141 889 9010 Do you mean '96? Glasgow was 041 until "PhONEday", 16 April 1995. Nick |
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Jim GM4DHJ wrote: you had a phone? ..LUXURY....We didn't have one 'till '66 ....0141 889 9010 In 1966 it would have been 041 889 9010. I remember my grandma's phone number that went from 62115 to 662115 to 2662115. Apologies for repeating what you'd already said: I hadn't read down this far in the thread when I made my reply. Nick |
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"Nick Odell" wrote in message ... On Wed, 6 May 2015 13:11:10 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote: "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message ... "Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Wed, 06 May 2015 12:11:07 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... On 06/05/15 12:05, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: wrote in message ... On Wednesday, 6 May 2015 11:29:42 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Why in this age of energy conservation did they do away with vented larders and the daylight requirement in kitchens ? ..... they dont keep goods below 5C, so food poisoning incidence is much higher. NT how did we survive in the 50's and 60's ....... Shopping everyday. ....with a sting bag and a co-op number like 14716 ........... My mum's number was 8747...lower! But the she worked for the Co-Op from the age of 14... funny how you can remember a number when you hear it every day as a bairn Doesn't need to be every day either, I can still remember a couple of phone numbers from the time when I was in the bottom end of highschool. you had a phone? ..LUXURY....We didn't have one 'till '66 ....0141 889 9010 Do you mean '96? Glasgow was 041 until "PhONEday", 16 April 1995. Nick naw...'66 PAI 9010 |
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In article , Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote: wrote in message ... On Wednesday, 6 May 2015 11:29:42 UTC+1, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: Why in this age of energy conservation did they do away with vented larders and the daylight requirement in kitchens ? ..... they dont keep goods below 5C, so food poisoning incidence is much higher. NT how did we survive in the 50's and 60's ....... by buying food more often -- From KT24 in Surrey Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18 |
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wrote: "harryagain" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... Jim GM4DHJ wrote: you had a phone? ..LUXURY....We didn't have one 'till '66 ....0141 889 9010 In 1966 it would have been 041 889 9010. I remember my grandma's phone number that went from 62115 to 662115 to 2662115. The phone when I was a kid had no dial. You picked up the phone and an operator said "Number please". you are joking ! There were manual exchanges in use in teh early 60's. BYPass in Edinburgh and MOLesey to the SW of London, -- From KT24 in Surrey Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18 |
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