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Fixing a rad to thin air
Gentlemen,
I slightly exaggerate, but not by much. I have to hang a rad to that lino-esque stuff you find more and more used in bathrooms these days. I *think* it's called panelboard. Anyway, it's about 12mm thick ply with a waterproof decorative veneer on top; comes in large sheets you just stick to the walls with qik-grab-goo IIRC. Anyway, where I have to fix this rad, there's no actual wall of any description behind the mounting points, so this panelling will have to bear the weight by itself. Fortunately this isn't a big or heavy rad (only around 20lb I would guess). What sort of fixings would be best to use for this job? cheers, cd. |
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On 05/05/2015 19:49, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Gentlemen, I slightly exaggerate, but not by much. I have to hang a rad to that lino-esque stuff you find more and more used in bathrooms these days. I *think* it's called panelboard. Anyway, it's about 12mm thick ply with a waterproof decorative veneer on top; comes in large sheets you just stick to the walls with qik-grab-goo IIRC. Anyway, where I have to fix this rad, there's no actual wall of any description behind the mounting points, so this panelling will have to bear the weight by itself. Fortunately this isn't a big or heavy rad (only around 20lb I would guess). What sort of fixings would be best to use for this job? cheers, cd. Toggle screws -- Eednud |
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On 05/05/2015 20:02, Eednud wrote:
On 05/05/2015 19:49, Cursitor Doom wrote: Gentlemen, I slightly exaggerate, but not by much. I have to hang a rad to that lino-esque stuff you find more and more used in bathrooms these days. I *think* it's called panelboard. Anyway, it's about 12mm thick ply with a waterproof decorative veneer on top; comes in large sheets you just stick to the walls with qik-grab-goo IIRC. Anyway, where I have to fix this rad, there's no actual wall of any description behind the mounting points, so this panelling will have to bear the weight by itself. Fortunately this isn't a big or heavy rad (only around 20lb I would guess). What sort of fixings would be best to use for this job? cheers, cd. Toggle screws Just ordinary chipboard screws should be fine in 12mm ply. Or, yes, toggle bolts. |
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On 05/05/2015 19:49, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Gentlemen, I slightly exaggerate, but not by much. I have to hang a rad to that lino-esque stuff you find more and more used in bathrooms these days. I *think* it's called panelboard. Anyway, it's about 12mm thick ply with a waterproof decorative veneer on top; comes in large sheets you just stick to the walls with qik-grab-goo IIRC. Anyway, where I have to fix this rad, there's no actual wall of any description behind the mounting points, so this panelling will have to bear the weight by itself. Fortunately this isn't a big or heavy rad (only around 20lb I would guess). What sort of fixings would be best to use for this job? You may get a decent screw fixing into the the ply - so I would try that first. Failing that, hollow wall anchors (which are way better than toggle bolts IMO) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 05/05/15 19:49, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Gentlemen, I slightly exaggerate, but not by much. I have to hang a rad to that lino-esque stuff you find more and more used in bathrooms these days. I *think* it's called panelboard. Anyway, it's about 12mm thick ply with a waterproof decorative veneer on top; comes in large sheets you just stick to the walls with qik-grab-goo IIRC. Anyway, where I have to fix this rad, there's no actual wall of any description behind the mounting points, so this panelling will have to bear the weight by itself. Fortunately this isn't a big or heavy rad (only around 20lb I would guess). What sort of fixings would be best to use for this job? cheers, cd. Should be similar in strength to plasterboard if if is 12mm. What about: http://gripitfixings.co.uk/ (Wickes sell them, so do Amazon). If the panel itself is strong enough, those will get a very solid fixing in it. Another option - a bit of 18mm WBP ply spanning the studs and fix to that? |
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On Tue, 05 May 2015 21:08:16 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:
What about: http://gripitfixings.co.uk/ (Wickes sell them, so do Amazon). I don't see these helping; I've no access to the rear of the panel! |
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On 05/05/15 21:47, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 05 May 2015 21:08:16 +0100, Tim Watts wrote: What about: http://gripitfixings.co.uk/ (Wickes sell them, so do Amazon). I don't see these helping; I've no access to the rear of the panel! And nor do you need any - have another look! |
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On Tue, 05 May 2015 20:32:42 +0100, John Rumm wrote:
You may get a decent screw fixing into the the ply - so I would try that first. Failing that, hollow wall anchors (which are way better than toggle bolts IMO) Sold! I just happen to have a pack of those, too. I'd quite forgotten! Thanks, John. |
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On Tue, 05 May 2015 21:50:32 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:
On 05/05/15 21:47, Cursitor Doom wrote: On Tue, 05 May 2015 21:08:16 +0100, Tim Watts wrote: What about: http://gripitfixings.co.uk/ (Wickes sell them, so do Amazon). I don't see these helping; I've no access to the rear of the panel! And nor do you need any - have another look! Oh. I see. I think. Bet they're expensive, though! |
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On 05/05/2015 21:08, Tim Watts wrote:
http://gripitfixings.co.uk/ (Wickes sell them, so do Amazon). Not seen these before but the installation instructions raised a wee smile "With a small screwdriver, rotate both locking arm shafts in a CLOCKWISE direction for approximately 124 degrees......... " -- CB |
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Floor fittings?
Then just tie it to the wall to stopp wobble. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "Cursitor Doom" wrote in message ... Gentlemen, I slightly exaggerate, but not by much. I have to hang a rad to that lino-esque stuff you find more and more used in bathrooms these days. I *think* it's called panelboard. Anyway, it's about 12mm thick ply with a waterproof decorative veneer on top; comes in large sheets you just stick to the walls with qik-grab-goo IIRC. Anyway, where I have to fix this rad, there's no actual wall of any description behind the mounting points, so this panelling will have to bear the weight by itself. Fortunately this isn't a big or heavy rad (only around 20lb I would guess). What sort of fixings would be best to use for this job? cheers, cd. |
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On 05/05/15 22:55, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 05 May 2015 21:50:32 +0100, Tim Watts wrote: On 05/05/15 21:47, Cursitor Doom wrote: On Tue, 05 May 2015 21:08:16 +0100, Tim Watts wrote: What about: http://gripitfixings.co.uk/ (Wickes sell them, so do Amazon). I don't see these helping; I've no access to the rear of the panel! And nor do you need any - have another look! Oh. I see. I think. Bet they're expensive, though! Not too bad. And you need 4 (ie a packet) - small price compared to the rad (unless you got that free). |
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On Tue, 5 May 2015 18:49:38 +0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
wrote: What sort of fixings would be best to use for this job? I recently came across these: http://www.screwfix.com/p/spit-driva...k-of-100/11923 (or similar) and found them useful and easy to fix. |
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"Peter Johnson" wrote in message ... On Tue, 5 May 2015 18:49:38 +0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom wrote: What sort of fixings would be best to use for this job? I recently came across these: http://www.screwfix.com/p/spit-driva...k-of-100/11923 (or similar) and found them useful and easy to fix. they certainly are ..... |
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On 06/05/15 11:40, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"Peter Johnson" wrote in message ... On Tue, 5 May 2015 18:49:38 +0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom wrote: What sort of fixings would be best to use for this job? I recently came across these: http://www.screwfix.com/p/spit-driva...k-of-100/11923 (or similar) and found them useful and easy to fix. they certainly are ..... I would not hang 20kg of radiator on those. |
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