[BruceB[_3_]]

Thinking bigger is better I bought the 3/4 inch outside tap from
Toolstation. Item 32002. The 3/4 refers to the bsp thread size
conecting to the backplate.

I want to use hozelock type fittings but cannot work out how to connect
to the outlet which has a male thread.
A 3/4 inch hozelock connector is too small
A 1 inch hozelock conector is too big
It does not appear to be a bsp thread as the pitch is too fine.

Is there a standard for these tap threads I should know?

[Andrew Gabriel]

In article ,
BruceB writes:


Thinking bigger is better I bought the 3/4 inch outside tap from
Toolstation. Item 32002. The 3/4 refers to the bsp thread size
conecting to the backplate.

I want to use hozelock type fittings but cannot work out how to connect
to the outlet which has a male thread.
A 3/4 inch hozelock connector is too small
A 1 inch hozelock conector is too big
It does not appear to be a bsp thread as the pitch is too fine.

Is there a standard for these tap threads I should know?

Outside taps with threaded spouts are usually 3/4" BSP (same as
appliance hose connectors).

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

[The Medway Handyman]

On 16/08/2014 15:47, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
BruceB writes:


Thinking bigger is better I bought the 3/4 inch outside tap from
Toolstation. Item 32002. The 3/4 refers to the bsp thread size
conecting to the backplate.

I want to use hozelock type fittings but cannot work out how to connect
to the outlet which has a male thread.
A 3/4 inch hozelock connector is too small
A 1 inch hozelock conector is too big
It does not appear to be a bsp thread as the pitch is too fine.

I've never come across a tap that wasn't BSP. 14TPI.

Is there a standard for these tap threads I should know?

Outside taps with threaded spouts are usually 3/4" BSP (same as
appliance hose connectors).

I have, very rarely, come across 7/8" BSP tap threads. Tap connectors
do exist GIYF.

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

[Gazz]

"BruceB" wrote in message
...


Thinking bigger is better I bought the 3/4 inch outside tap from
Toolstation. Item 32002. The 3/4 refers to the bsp thread size
conecting to the backplate.

I want to use hozelock type fittings but cannot work out how to connect
to the outlet which has a male thread.
A 3/4 inch hozelock connector is too small
A 1 inch hozelock conector is too big
It does not appear to be a bsp thread as the pitch is too fine.

Is there a standard for these tap threads I should know?

oh yeas, there is a standard... just every country/region has a different
standard,

i amassed about 20 different adapters and fittings for taps when i had my
motorhome, to enable me to fill up with water from almost any tap in europe,
and i still got caught out in scotland with a tap thread inbetween the
standard 3/4 and 1 inch bsp threads (used for half inch and 3/4 inch hose
respectively)

it could be that which you have now? unfortunately i dont know the thread
as i just used a universal cuff type adaptor (the ones with a jubilee clip
to hold the rubber cuff on any tap)

[nightjar]

On 16/08/2014 16:43, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 16/08/2014 15:47, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
BruceB writes:


Thinking bigger is better I bought the 3/4 inch outside tap from
Toolstation. Item 32002. The 3/4 refers to the bsp thread size
conecting to the backplate.

I want to use hozelock type fittings but cannot work out how to connect
to the outlet which has a male thread.
A 3/4 inch hozelock connector is too small
A 1 inch hozelock conector is too big
It does not appear to be a bsp thread as the pitch is too fine.

I've never come across a tap that wasn't BSP. 14TPI...

Only in the 1/2" to 7/8" range. For 1" and above, it is 11TPI.


--
Colin Bignell

[Capitol]

I wonder if it is US garden hose size?

[nightjar]

On 16/08/2014 15:26, BruceB wrote:


Thinking bigger is better I bought the 3/4 inch outside tap from
Toolstation. Item 32002. The 3/4 refers to the bsp thread size
conecting to the backplate.

I would expect it to apply to the outlet connector too. There would be
little point in having a different connection there. Have you tried
screwing it into the backplate to check?

I want to use hozelock type fittings but cannot work out how to connect
to the outlet which has a male thread.
A 3/4 inch hozelock connector is too small
A 1 inch hozelock conector is too big
It does not appear to be a bsp thread as the pitch is too fine.

Is there a standard for these tap threads I should know?

Yes - BSP

--
Colin Bignell

[Davey]

On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 17:54:55 +0100
Capitol wrote:


I wonder if it is US garden hose size?

..... which, I can confirm, is a bitch to try and match in the UK. I
ended up with a jubilee clip type, as mentioned earlier.
Somewhere out there, I am sure, is a neat solution.

--
Davey.

[Tim+[_2_]]

Davey wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 17:54:55 +0100
Capitol wrote:


I wonder if it is US garden hose size?

.... which, I can confirm, is a bitch to try and match in the UK. I
ended up with a jubilee clip type, as mentioned earlier.
Somewhere out there, I am sure, is a neat solution.


Change the tap... ;-)

Tim

[Davey]

On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 07:49:45 +0000 (UTC)
Tim+ wrote:

Davey wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 17:54:55 +0100
Capitol wrote:


I wonder if it is US garden hose size?

.... which, I can confirm, is a bitch to try and match in the UK. I
ended up with a jubilee clip type, as mentioned earlier.
Somewhere out there, I am sure, is a neat solution.


Change the tap... ;-)

Tim

Ah, but it was a special decorative one, so want to keep it.

--
Davey.

[Andy Burns[_9_]]

Davey wrote:

Tim+ wrote:

Davey wrote:

Capitol wrote:

I wonder if it is US garden hose size?

which, I can confirm, is a bitch to try and match in the UK.

Change the tap... ;-)

Ah, but it was a special decorative one, so want to keep it.

Ah, form over function, you deserve the resultant hassle :-P

[Davey]

On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:36:43 +0100
Andy Burns wrote:

Davey wrote:

Tim+ wrote:

Davey wrote:

Capitol wrote:

I wonder if it is US garden hose size?

which, I can confirm, is a bitch to try and match in the UK.

Change the tap... ;-)

Ah, but it was a special decorative one, so want to keep it.

Ah, form over function, you deserve the resultant hassle :-P



SWMBO, and all that. Enough hassle already........don't need more!

--
Davey.

[Tricky Dicky[_4_]]

I recently bought a new Hozelock tap connector which had an insert that allowed it to be screwed onto a smaller tap outlet, maybe that is what you need? As my tap has the standard thread it was not needed, unfortunetly I threw it away otherwise you would have been welcome to it.

Richard

[BruceB[_3_]]

In article , "Nightjar
\"cpb\"@" "insert my surname here says...

On 16/08/2014 15:26, BruceB wrote:


Thinking bigger is better I bought the 3/4 inch outside tap from
Toolstation. Item 32002. The 3/4 refers to the bsp thread size
conecting to the backplate.

I would expect it to apply to the outlet connector too. There would be
little point in having a different connection there. Have you tried
screwing it into the backplate to check?

I want to use hozelock type fittings but cannot work out how to connect
to the outlet which has a male thread.
A 3/4 inch hozelock connector is too small
A 1 inch hozelock conector is too big
It does not appear to be a bsp thread as the pitch is too fine.

Is there a standard for these tap threads I should know?

Yes - BSP

The outlet is definitely bigger than 3/4" bsp and smaller than 1" bsp.
I do not believe it is a bsp thread as it is much finer - a pitch of
about 1mm rather than 2mm.
The OD of the male thread is 30.2mm
The ID of the female thread for the 3/4" hose connector fitting that
came with it is 28.5mm

[Davey]

On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:35:27 -0700 (PDT)
Tricky Dicky wrote:

I recently bought a new Hozelock tap connector which had an insert
that allowed it to be screwed onto a smaller tap outlet, maybe that
is what you need? As my tap has the standard thread it was not
needed, unfortunetly I threw it away otherwise you would have been
welcome to it.

Richard

Thanks, but the Hozelock one I also had isn't the right size for a US
thread. The clamp type one I have does fine until such time, if ever, I
find the right fitting.

--
Davey.

[Rick Hughes[_5_]]

On 16/08/2014 15:26, BruceB wrote:


Thinking bigger is better I bought the 3/4 inch outside tap from
Toolstation. Item 32002. The 3/4 refers to the bsp thread size
conecting to the backplate.

I want to use hozelock type fittings but cannot work out how to connect
to the outlet which has a male thread.
A 3/4 inch hozelock connector is too small
A 1 inch hozelock conector is too big
It does not appear to be a bsp thread as the pitch is too fine.

Is there a standard for these tap threads I should know?

BSP sizes

--
UK SelfBuild: http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/UK_Selfbuild/

[nightjar]

On 17/08/2014 19:41, BruceB wrote:
In article , "Nightjar
\"cpb\"@" "insert my surname here says...

On 16/08/2014 15:26, BruceB wrote:


Thinking bigger is better I bought the 3/4 inch outside tap from
Toolstation. Item 32002. The 3/4 refers to the bsp thread size
conecting to the backplate.

I would expect it to apply to the outlet connector too. There would be
little point in having a different connection there. Have you tried
screwing it into the backplate to check?

I want to use hozelock type fittings but cannot work out how to connect
to the outlet which has a male thread.
A 3/4 inch hozelock connector is too small
A 1 inch hozelock conector is too big
It does not appear to be a bsp thread as the pitch is too fine.

Is there a standard for these tap threads I should know?

Yes - BSP

The outlet is definitely bigger than 3/4" bsp and smaller than 1" bsp.
I do not believe it is a bsp thread as it is much finer - a pitch of
about 1mm rather than 2mm.
The OD of the male thread is 30.2mm
The ID of the female thread for the 3/4" hose connector fitting that
came with it is 28.5mm

I can't find anything in my thread tables that match all those. The
diameters are right for 7/8" BSP, but that should have a 1.8mm pitch.
Nothing else comes close.


--
Colin Bignell

[Capitol]

Nightjar "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote:
On 17/08/2014 19:41, BruceB wrote:
In article , "Nightjar
\"cpb\"@" "insert my surname here says...

On 16/08/2014 15:26, BruceB wrote:


Thinking bigger is better I bought the 3/4 inch outside tap from
Toolstation. Item 32002. The 3/4 refers to the bsp thread size
conecting to the backplate.

I would expect it to apply to the outlet connector too. There would be
little point in having a different connection there. Have you tried
screwing it into the backplate to check?

I want to use hozelock type fittings but cannot work out how to connect
to the outlet which has a male thread.
A 3/4 inch hozelock connector is too small
A 1 inch hozelock conector is too big
It does not appear to be a bsp thread as the pitch is too fine.

Is there a standard for these tap threads I should know?

Yes - BSP

The outlet is definitely bigger than 3/4" bsp and smaller than 1" bsp.
I do not believe it is a bsp thread as it is much finer - a pitch of
about 1mm rather than 2mm.
The OD of the male thread is 30.2mm
The ID of the female thread for the 3/4" hose connector fitting that
came with it is 28.5mm

I can't find anything in my thread tables that match all those. The
diameters are right for 7/8" BSP, but that should have a 1.8mm pitch.
Nothing else comes close.



Could it be M30 x 1.5?

[nightjar]

On 17/08/2014 23:23, Capitol wrote:
Nightjar "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote:
On 17/08/2014 19:41, BruceB wrote:
In article , "Nightjar
\"cpb\"@" "insert my surname here says...

On 16/08/2014 15:26, BruceB wrote:


Thinking bigger is better I bought the 3/4 inch outside tap from
Toolstation. Item 32002. The 3/4 refers to the bsp thread size
conecting to the backplate.

I would expect it to apply to the outlet connector too. There would be
little point in having a different connection there. Have you tried
screwing it into the backplate to check?

I want to use hozelock type fittings but cannot work out how to
connect
to the outlet which has a male thread.
A 3/4 inch hozelock connector is too small
A 1 inch hozelock conector is too big
It does not appear to be a bsp thread as the pitch is too fine.

Is there a standard for these tap threads I should know?

Yes - BSP

The outlet is definitely bigger than 3/4" bsp and smaller than 1" bsp.
I do not believe it is a bsp thread as it is much finer - a pitch of
about 1mm rather than 2mm.
The OD of the male thread is 30.2mm
The ID of the female thread for the 3/4" hose connector fitting that
came with it is 28.5mm

I can't find anything in my thread tables that match all those. The
diameters are right for 7/8" BSP, but that should have a 1.8mm pitch.
Nothing else comes close.



Could it be M30 x 1.5?

That should be just under 30mm OD. 30.2mm OD is spot on for 7/8" BSP.

--
Colin Bignell

[BruceB[_3_]]

In article , "Nightjar
\"cpb\"@" "insert my surname here says...

On 17/08/2014 19:41, BruceB wrote:
In article , "Nightjar
\"cpb\"@" "insert my surname here says...

On 16/08/2014 15:26, BruceB wrote:


Thinking bigger is better I bought the 3/4 inch outside tap from
Toolstation. Item 32002. The 3/4 refers to the bsp thread size
conecting to the backplate.

I would expect it to apply to the outlet connector too. There would be
little point in having a different connection there. Have you tried
screwing it into the backplate to check?

I want to use hozelock type fittings but cannot work out how to connect
to the outlet which has a male thread.
A 3/4 inch hozelock connector is too small
A 1 inch hozelock conector is too big
It does not appear to be a bsp thread as the pitch is too fine.

Is there a standard for these tap threads I should know?

Yes - BSP

The outlet is definitely bigger than 3/4" bsp and smaller than 1" bsp.
I do not believe it is a bsp thread as it is much finer - a pitch of
about 1mm rather than 2mm.
The OD of the male thread is 30.2mm
The ID of the female thread for the 3/4" hose connector fitting that
came with it is 28.5mm

I can't find anything in my thread tables that match all those. The
diameters are right for 7/8" BSP, but that should have a 1.8mm pitch.
Nothing else comes close.

I have sent an email to toolstation. We will see if they can help.

[BruceB[_3_]]

I have sent an email to toolstation. We will see if they can help.


Toolstation did not know, but the supplier to Toolstation is Mueller
Primaflow who said it is a G 7/8 thread, which I undersatand to mean a
BSP thread. Looks like I cannot estimate thread pitch. I'll see if I
can find something to fit.

[BruceB[_3_]]

In article ,
says...


I have sent an email to toolstation. We will see if they can help.


Toolstation did not know, but the supplier to Toolstation is Mueller
Primaflow who said it is a G 7/8 thread, which I undersatand to mean a
BSP thread. Looks like I cannot estimate thread pitch. I'll see if I
can find something to fit.

I am going to try G7/8 to Geka then Geka to Hozelock.
Simpler to have bought the smaller tap!

[Capitol]

BruceB wrote:
In ,
says...


I have sent an email to toolstation. We will see if they can help.


Toolstation did not know, but the supplier to Toolstation is Mueller
Primaflow who said it is a G 7/8 thread, which I undersatand to mean a
BSP thread. Looks like I cannot estimate thread pitch. I'll see if I
can find something to fit.

I am going to try G7/8 to Geka then Geka to Hozelock.
Simpler to have bought the smaller tap!

Does this solve the problem?
http://www.gardena.com/int/water-man...onnector-g7-8/

[BruceB[_3_]]

In article ,
says...

BruceB wrote:
In ,
says...


I have sent an email to toolstation. We will see if they can help.


Toolstation did not know, but the supplier to Toolstation is Mueller
Primaflow who said it is a G 7/8 thread, which I undersatand to mean a
BSP thread. Looks like I cannot estimate thread pitch. I'll see if I
can find something to fit.

I am going to try G7/8 to Geka then Geka to Hozelock.
Simpler to have bought the smaller tap!

Does this solve the problem?
http://www.gardena.com/int/water-man...onnector-g7-8/

Yes it should, but I have ordered the other stuff now.
My local supplier only has the Gardena 1" and 3/4" flavours in stock.
Did not realise the 7/8" version was made by them.

[BruceB[_3_]]

In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...


I have sent an email to toolstation. We will see if they can help.


Toolstation did not know, but the supplier to Toolstation is Mueller
Primaflow who said it is a G 7/8 thread, which I undersatand to mean a
BSP thread. Looks like I cannot estimate thread pitch. I'll see if I
can find something to fit.

I am going to try G7/8 to Geka then Geka to Hozelock.
Simpler to have bought the smaller tap!

A bit grumpy now.
Having been told by the supplier it was a G7/8" thread, I ordered the
necessary parts and received them in the post today. However the G7/8
connection does not fit. It is the correct diameter and the thread
engages, turns a few degrees and locks up. As I first thought a few
days ago, the thread on the tap outlet is a finer pitch than the
standard BSP threads.
So not sure what to try next.

[Rod Speed]

"BruceB" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...


I have sent an email to toolstation. We will see if they can help.


Toolstation did not know, but the supplier to Toolstation is Mueller
Primaflow who said it is a G 7/8 thread, which I undersatand to mean a
BSP thread. Looks like I cannot estimate thread pitch. I'll see if I
can find something to fit.

I am going to try G7/8 to Geka then Geka to Hozelock.
Simpler to have bought the smaller tap!

A bit grumpy now.
Having been told by the supplier it was a G7/8" thread, I ordered the
necessary parts and received them in the post today. However the G7/8
connection does not fit. It is the correct diameter and the thread
engages, turns a few degrees and locks up. As I first thought a few
days ago, the thread on the tap outlet is a finer pitch than the
standard BSP threads.
So not sure what to try next.

Cut to the chase and get the smaller tap you should have got in the first
place.

[DerbyBorn[_5_]]

PLEASE - get a new tap.

[Tim+]

DerbyBorn wrote:



PLEASE - get a new tap.

+1

Tim

[nightjar]

On 21/08/2014 17:23, DerbyBorn wrote:



PLEASE - get a new tap.


+1 That is not any standard thread that I can identify. The only thread
I can find with a 30.2mm OD is 7/8 BSP and that is 14TPI.

--
Colin Bignell

[Capitol]

DerbyBorn wrote:



PLEASE - get a new tap.

Ask Toolstation to stock the connector.