Hi all,

Well, I got my tumble dryer working again by just cleaning the nylon
gears in the tumble/reverse timer with solvent; the grease on them had
congealed and hardened and forced them out of mesh (they don't run in
proper bearings).
So fine in that regard. However, as some people warned me, the power to
the heating elements is no longer there so it looks like one or more
thermal cut-outs have tripped (presumably when the drum stopped turning
owing to the earlier problem).
So.... where can I find these cut-outs and what do they look like?

cheers,

cd.

On Monday, 11 November 2013 20:00:23 UTC, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Hi all,

Well, I got my tumble dryer working again by just cleaning the nylon
gears in the tumble/reverse timer with solvent; the grease on them had
congealed and hardened and forced them out of mesh (they don't run in
proper bearings).
So fine in that regard. However, as some people warned me, the power to
the heating elements is no longer there so it looks like one or more
thermal cut-outs have tripped (presumably when the drum stopped turning
owing to the earlier problem).

So.... where can I find these cut-outs and what do they look like?

cheers,
cd.

Have a look for a small (normally red) button high up at the back. That's where it was on mine.

In article ,
Cursitor Doom writes:
Hi all,

Well, I got my tumble dryer working again by just cleaning the nylon
gears in the tumble/reverse timer with solvent; the grease on them had
congealed and hardened and forced them out of mesh (they don't run in
proper bearings).
So fine in that regard. However, as some people warned me, the power to
the heating elements is no longer there so it looks like one or more
thermal cut-outs have tripped (presumably when the drum stopped turning
owing to the earlier problem).
So.... where can I find these cut-outs and what do they look like?

They mostly look like a small cylindrical component, metal case with
one lead connected to it, and opposite end is plastic insulator, beveled,
with the opposide lead going into it. The metal case is live, so they're
sometimes in a PTFE sleeve, but I doubt they would be in a tumble drier
where the are live elements anyway and quick response is required.

http://cpc.farnell.com/thermal

When you find it, try reading the temperature value off it before
doing anything which might rub the markins off.

The connection is usually crimped or reveted or spot welded,
as soldering them is likely to trip them!

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Cursitor Doom wrote:

So.... where can I find these cut-outs and what do they look like?

Websites like: http://www.buyspares.co.uk will show pictures of many of the
parts of particular models of appliance, which makes it a lot easier to find
out roughly what they may look like. But beware different components which
look similar...

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On Monday, November 11, 2013 8:00:23 PM UTC, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Hi all,
Well, I got my tumble dryer working again by just cleaning the nylon
gears in the tumble/reverse timer with solvent; the grease on them had
congealed and hardened and forced them out of mesh (they don't run in
proper bearings).
So fine in that regard. However, as some people warned me, the power to
the heating elements is no longer there so it looks like one or more
thermal cut-outs have tripped (presumably when the drum stopped turning
owing to the earlier problem).
So.... where can I find these cut-outs and what do they look like?
cheers,
cd.

bottom of:
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Fuse


NT

On 11/11/2013 21:01, wrote:
On Monday, November 11, 2013 8:00:23 PM UTC, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Hi all,
Well, I got my tumble dryer working again by just cleaning the nylon
gears in the tumble/reverse timer with solvent; the grease on them had
congealed and hardened and forced them out of mesh (they don't run in
proper bearings).
So fine in that regard. However, as some people warned me, the power to
the heating elements is no longer there so it looks like one or more
thermal cut-outs have tripped (presumably when the drum stopped turning
owing to the earlier problem).
So.... where can I find these cut-outs and what do they look like?
cheers,
cd.

bottom of:
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Fuse


NT

If yours is one like those at the very bottom, look carefully at the
black body between the two metal tags and see if there is a hole. If
there is, pushing something thin in (I've used the back end of a needle)
will usually reset it.

SteveW

On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 20:35:26 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Gabriel wrote:

They mostly look like a small cylindrical component, metal case with
one lead connected to it, and opposite end is plastic insulator,
beveled, with the opposide lead going into it. The metal case is live,
so they're sometimes in a PTFE sleeve, but I doubt they would be in a
tumble drier where the are live elements anyway and quick response is
required.

The washer/condensing drier we had had the above as last ditch
protection if the self reseting sort bolted to the heating element
housing failed closed or just the interior of the machine got to hot.
Ours tripped FSVO "just in time" as the caked on acummulated fluff
around the heating elements was just starting to char...

The connection is usually crimped or reveted or spot welded,
as soldering them is likely to trip them!

Yep...

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 13:01:20 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, November 11, 2013 8:00:23 PM UTC, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Hi all,
Well, I got my tumble dryer working again by just cleaning the nylon
gears in the tumble/reverse timer with solvent; the grease on them had
congealed and hardened and forced them out of mesh (they don't run in
proper bearings).
So fine in that regard. However, as some people warned me, the power to
the heating elements is no longer there so it looks like one or more
thermal cut-outs have tripped (presumably when the drum stopped turning
owing to the earlier problem).
So.... where can I find these cut-outs and what do they look like?
cheers,
cd.

bottom of:
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Fuse


NT


They are supposed to be self resetting, but they often fail open
circuit.

I would expect that type in a tumble dryer rather than the wire-ended
ones mentioned earlier.

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In article ,
Graham. writes:
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 13:01:20 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, November 11, 2013 8:00:23 PM UTC, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Hi all,
Well, I got my tumble dryer working again by just cleaning the nylon
gears in the tumble/reverse timer with solvent; the grease on them had
congealed and hardened and forced them out of mesh (they don't run in
proper bearings).
So fine in that regard. However, as some people warned me, the power to
the heating elements is no longer there so it looks like one or more
thermal cut-outs have tripped (presumably when the drum stopped turning
owing to the earlier problem).
So.... where can I find these cut-outs and what do they look like?
cheers,
cd.

bottom of:
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Fuse


NT


They are supposed to be self resetting, but they often fail open
circuit.

There is a manual reset version of them, with a tiny red
reset button in the middle.

I would expect that type in a tumble dryer rather than the wire-ended
ones mentioned earlier.

You may well find both types.

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Well I'd have thought they would auto reset myself. I have one on a fan
heater that once unplugged for about half an hour will reset itself.
Brian

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"Cursitor Doom" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

Well, I got my tumble dryer working again by just cleaning the nylon
gears in the tumble/reverse timer with solvent; the grease on them had
congealed and hardened and forced them out of mesh (they don't run in
proper bearings).
So fine in that regard. However, as some people warned me, the power to
the heating elements is no longer there so it looks like one or more
thermal cut-outs have tripped (presumably when the drum stopped turning
owing to the earlier problem).
So.... where can I find these cut-outs and what do they look like?

cheers,

cd.

On 11/11/2013 23:01, Brian Gaff wrote:
Well I'd have thought they would auto reset myself. I have one on a fan
heater that once unplugged for about half an hour will reset itself.
Brian


The one in my old washer dryer's dryer heater was a one shot.
The idea was that if it went you probably needed to unclog the heater
housing where the fuse was.

On 11/11/2013 21:43, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 20:35:26 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Gabriel wrote:

They mostly look like a small cylindrical component, metal case with
one lead connected to it, and opposite end is plastic insulator,
beveled, with the opposide lead going into it. The metal case is live,
so they're sometimes in a PTFE sleeve, but I doubt they would be in a
tumble drier where the are live elements anyway and quick response is
required.

The washer/condensing drier we had had the above as last ditch
protection if the self reseting sort bolted to the heating element
housing failed closed or just the interior of the machine got to hot.
Ours tripped FSVO "just in time" as the caked on acummulated fluff
around the heating elements was just starting to char...

The connection is usually crimped or reveted or spot welded,
as soldering them is likely to trip them!

Yep...

Something like this -
http://www.circuitspecialists.com/ht-156.html
does the trick.

dennis@home wrote:
On 11/11/2013 23:01, Brian Gaff wrote:
Well I'd have thought they would auto reset myself. I have one on a fan
heater that once unplugged for about half an hour will reset itself.
Brian


The one in my old washer dryer's dryer heater was a one shot.
The idea was that if it went you probably needed to unclog the heater
housing where the fuse was.

Are people talking at cross purposes here?
Is the OP talking about thermal cutouts, which are probably klixon, or
thermal fuses which don't reset once blown?

On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 13:01:20 -0800, meow2222 wrote:

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There are two of these devices mounted above the heating element shroud;
one had popped open circuit so I've drilled a tiny hole and reset it as
instructed here elsewhere. The other one hadn't tripped, so they're now
both closed circuit again according to my ohmeter. However, still no heat
so it looks like there's something still lurking somewhere that needs
attention. Any ideas?

On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:37:23 +0000, Cursitor Doom wrote:
...However, still no
heat so it looks like there's something still lurking somewhere that
needs attention. Any ideas?

Scrub that. There was heat after all. I simply forgot the importance of
re-fitting the cowling at the back so the heat simply wasn't going into
the appliance. D'oh!

On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 23:01:42 +0000, Brian Gaff wrote:

Well I'd have thought they would auto reset myself. I have one on a fan
heater that once unplugged for about half an hour will reset itself.
Brian

This kind don't. Like I was told earlier up the thread, you have to drill
a little hole in the centre and pop 'em out with a suitably thin drift.

(Andrew Gabriel) writes:

In article ,
Cursitor Doom writes:
Hi all,

Well, I got my tumble dryer working again by just cleaning the nylon
gears in the tumble/reverse timer with solvent; the grease on them had
congealed and hardened and forced them out of mesh (they don't run in
proper bearings).
So fine in that regard. However, as some people warned me, the power to
the heating elements is no longer there so it looks like one or more
thermal cut-outs have tripped (presumably when the drum stopped turning
owing to the earlier problem).
So.... where can I find these cut-outs and what do they look like?

They mostly look like a small cylindrical component, metal case with
one lead connected to it, and opposite end is plastic insulator, beveled,
with the opposide lead going into it. The metal case is live, so they're
sometimes in a PTFE sleeve, but I doubt they would be in a tumble drier
where the are live elements anyway and quick response is required.

http://cpc.farnell.com/thermal

When you find it, try reading the temperature value off it before
doing anything which might rub the markins off.

The connection is usually crimped or reveted or spot welded,
as soldering them is likely to trip them!

About 20 years ago I was very puzzled (for a few minutes) when a
replacement non-resettable thermal fuse failed to fix the problem -
after I had soldered it in! Duh!

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