like most of us i live in a hard water area. the mrs is swedish and is used to soft water and has
been quizing me about a water softener as she thinks it should (in the long term) work out eccomicly
better to have one than buy descaler stuff for the washing machine &c. do any of you guys have any
experience with them and know what is involved in installing one, which ones are good, how much they
cost and any advice?

i figured seeing as i have the outside tap to install, i could do both jobs at the same time.


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mhm x v i x i i i

On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:28:33 +0100
happy zombie jebus on the cross
wrote:

like most of us i live in a hard water area. the mrs is swedish and
is used to soft water and has been quizing me about a water softener
as she thinks it should (in the long term) work out eccomicly better
to have one than buy descaler stuff for the washing machine &c. do
any of you guys have any experience with them and know what is
involved in installing one, which ones are good, how much they cost
and any advice?

i figured seeing as i have the outside tap to install, i could do
both jobs at the same time.


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mhm x v i x i i i

I have a Twintec two-tower, water-powered system, so it regenerates
according to the water used, no interruption while it does its thing,
and needs no electrical power. Absolutely love it. It uses block
salt, and sits in a spot that would be impossible for sensible use of a
granule system. I think that in the world of water softeners, you get
what you pay for, buying cheap is really silly.
Our dishwasher uses unsoftened water, due to piping runs, and Fairy
Platinum tablets are good enough to keep it clean and clear. My area's
water is described as "Very Hard", in East Anglia. The clothes washer
uses softened water, so is already taken care of.

--
Davey.

On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 14:13:38 +0100, Davey wrote:

On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:28:33 +0100
happy zombie jebus on the cross
wrote:

like most of us i live in a hard water area. the mrs is swedish and
is used to soft water and has been quizing me about a water softener
as she thinks it should (in the long term) work out eccomicly better
to have one than buy descaler stuff for the washing machine &c. do
any of you guys have any experience with them and know what is
involved in installing one, which ones are good, how much they cost
and any advice?

i figured seeing as i have the outside tap to install, i could do
both jobs at the same time.


--

mhm x v i x i i i

I have a Twintec two-tower, water-powered system, so it regenerates
according to the water used, no interruption while it does its thing,
and needs no electrical power. Absolutely love it. It uses block
salt, and sits in a spot that would be impossible for sensible use of a
granule system. I think that in the world of water softeners, you get
what you pay for, buying cheap is really silly.
Our dishwasher uses unsoftened water, due to piping runs, and Fairy
Platinum tablets are good enough to keep it clean and clear. My area's
water is described as "Very Hard", in East Anglia. The clothes washer
uses softened water, so is already taken care of.

i'll go and check out the twintec now. thanks.


--

mhm x v i x i i i

On 28/08/2013 15:19, happy zombie jebus on the cross wrote:

i'll go and check out the twintec now. thanks.

We're Bristol so not really "hard" but having now lived with a softner
for about 4 years I wouldn't go back.
Mine is also a twin tank job with no electrical requirement.
Used to be branded as EMWS but now seems to have adopted the "Harveys"
name. Still a fantastic unit.
http://emwc.uk.com/Details.asp?ProductID=87
Here's one I did earlier....
http://ubuntuone.com/2seEQQapwAetk1caMFW9fr



Pete@
--
http://www.GymRatZ.co.uk
Hard-Core Gym Equipment for Heavy Duty Training.

On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:44:37 +0100, "www.GymRatZ.co.uk"
wrote:

On 28/08/2013 15:19, happy zombie jebus on the cross wrote:

i'll go and check out the twintec now. thanks.

We're Bristol so not really "hard" but having now lived with a softner
for about 4 years I wouldn't go back.
Mine is also a twin tank job with no electrical requirement.
Used to be branded as EMWS but now seems to have adopted the "Harveys"
name. Still a fantastic unit.
http://emwc.uk.com/Details.asp?ProductID=87
Here's one I did earlier....
http://ubuntuone.com/2seEQQapwAetk1caMFW9fr



Pete@

thanks. i'll have a look at it. i should talk with the mrs about this as she's far from an idiot.
unlike, in my experience, most women, she can diy quite happily on her own if the mood strikes her.


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mhm x v i x i i i

On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:19:47 +0100
happy zombie jebus on the cross
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 14:13:38 +0100, Davey
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:28:33 +0100
happy zombie jebus on the cross
wrote:

like most of us i live in a hard water area. the mrs is swedish and
is used to soft water and has been quizing me about a water
softener as she thinks it should (in the long term) work out
eccomicly better to have one than buy descaler stuff for the
washing machine &c. do any of you guys have any experience with
them and know what is involved in installing one, which ones are
good, how much they cost and any advice?

i figured seeing as i have the outside tap to install, i could do
both jobs at the same time.


--

mhm x v i x i i i

I have a Twintec two-tower, water-powered system, so it regenerates
according to the water used, no interruption while it does its thing,
and needs no electrical power. Absolutely love it. It uses block
salt, and sits in a spot that would be impossible for sensible use
of a granule system. I think that in the world of water softeners,
you get what you pay for, buying cheap is really silly.
Our dishwasher uses unsoftened water, due to piping runs, and Fairy
Platinum tablets are good enough to keep it clean and clear. My
area's water is described as "Very Hard", in East Anglia. The
clothes washer uses softened water, so is already taken care of.

i'll go and check out the twintec now. thanks.


Be warned, it's pricy, but to me, it's worth it. But also see if others
have recommendations, when this was last discussed, there were lots of
different opinions.
Mine replaced a terrible Calgon unit, whiuch had just gunged itself
into immobility.
--
Davey.

On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:54:24 +0100, Davey wrote:

On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:19:47 +0100
happy zombie jebus on the cross
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 14:13:38 +0100, Davey
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:28:33 +0100
happy zombie jebus on the cross
wrote:

like most of us i live in a hard water area. the mrs is swedish and
is used to soft water and has been quizing me about a water
softener as she thinks it should (in the long term) work out
eccomicly better to have one than buy descaler stuff for the
washing machine &c. do any of you guys have any experience with
them and know what is involved in installing one, which ones are
good, how much they cost and any advice?

i figured seeing as i have the outside tap to install, i could do
both jobs at the same time.


--

mhm x v i x i i i

I have a Twintec two-tower, water-powered system, so it regenerates
according to the water used, no interruption while it does its thing,
and needs no electrical power. Absolutely love it. It uses block
salt, and sits in a spot that would be impossible for sensible use
of a granule system. I think that in the world of water softeners,
you get what you pay for, buying cheap is really silly.
Our dishwasher uses unsoftened water, due to piping runs, and Fairy
Platinum tablets are good enough to keep it clean and clear. My
area's water is described as "Very Hard", in East Anglia. The
clothes washer uses softened water, so is already taken care of.

i'll go and check out the twintec now. thanks.


Be warned, it's pricy, but to me, it's worth it. But also see if others
have recommendations, when this was last discussed, there were lots of
different opinions.
Mine replaced a terrible Calgon unit, whiuch had just gunged itself
into immobility.

to my mind it makes sence to have as there are 6 of us and that's a lot of showers and washing loads
and dishwasher use. pluss in october we'll be for an unspecified time having the mrs brother, wife
and 3 kids staying while they look for a place over here (they're moving over from spain).


--

mhm x v i x i i i

On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 12:50:09 +0100
happy zombie jebus on the cross
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:54:24 +0100, Davey
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:19:47 +0100
happy zombie jebus on the cross
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 14:13:38 +0100, Davey
wrote:

On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:28:33 +0100
happy zombie jebus on the cross
wrote:

like most of us i live in a hard water area. the mrs is swedish
and is used to soft water and has been quizing me about a water
softener as she thinks it should (in the long term) work out
eccomicly better to have one than buy descaler stuff for the
washing machine &c. do any of you guys have any experience with
them and know what is involved in installing one, which ones are
good, how much they cost and any advice?

i figured seeing as i have the outside tap to install, i could
do both jobs at the same time.


--

mhm x v i x i i i

I have a Twintec two-tower, water-powered system, so it
regenerates according to the water used, no interruption while it
does its thing, and needs no electrical power. Absolutely love
it. It uses block salt, and sits in a spot that would be
impossible for sensible use of a granule system. I think that in
the world of water softeners, you get what you pay for, buying
cheap is really silly. Our dishwasher uses unsoftened water, due
to piping runs, and Fairy Platinum tablets are good enough to
keep it clean and clear. My area's water is described as "Very
Hard", in East Anglia. The clothes washer uses softened water, so
is already taken care of.

i'll go and check out the twintec now. thanks.


Be warned, it's pricy, but to me, it's worth it. But also see if
others have recommendations, when this was last discussed, there
were lots of different opinions.
Mine replaced a terrible Calgon unit, whiuch had just gunged itself
into immobility.

to my mind it makes sence to have as there are 6 of us and that's a
lot of showers and washing loads and dishwasher use. pluss in october
we'll be for an unspecified time having the mrs brother, wife and 3
kids staying while they look for a place over here (they're moving
over from spain).


--

mhm x v i x i i i

I hope you have a palace to house that lot!

--
Davey.

On 28/08/13 12:28, happy zombie jebus on the cross wrote:
like most of us i live in a hard water area. the mrs is swedish and is used to soft water and has
been quizing me about a water softener as she thinks it should (in the long term) work out eccomicly
better to have one than buy descaler stuff for the washing machine &c. do any of you guys have any
experience with them and know what is involved in installing one, which ones are good, how much they
cost and any advice?

i figured seeing as i have the outside tap to install, i could do both jobs at the same time.


--

mhm x v i x i i i
fitted one here salttype 25kg of salt a moth, cost about £8 these days.

purchase cost around 600 notes,. fits in a standard unit under a
worktop. needs a 13A socket to run.

simply goes between incoming main after stopcock and all the house
supply EXCEPT the garden hose and kitchen tap which are taken off before
hand.

has given no trouble whatsoever in 12 years.

well worth the expense IMHO

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Ineptocracy

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On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 19:38:26 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 28/08/13 12:28, happy zombie jebus on the cross wrote:
like most of us i live in a hard water area. the mrs is swedish and is used to soft water and has
been quizing me about a water softener as she thinks it should (in the long term) work out eccomicly
better to have one than buy descaler stuff for the washing machine &c. do any of you guys have any
experience with them and know what is involved in installing one, which ones are good, how much they
cost and any advice?

i figured seeing as i have the outside tap to install, i could do both jobs at the same time.


--

mhm x v i x i i i
fitted one here salttype 25kg of salt a moth, cost about £8 these days.

purchase cost around 600 notes,. fits in a standard unit under a
worktop. needs a 13A socket to run.

simply goes between incoming main after stopcock and all the house
supply EXCEPT the garden hose and kitchen tap which are taken off before
hand.

has given no trouble whatsoever in 12 years.

well worth the expense IMHO

thanks. i'll have a look into that. i have a handy socket which makes it a simple install.


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mhm x v i x i i i