In article 36aa8579-6f5c-4464-b805-
,
says...


You can buy a gadget that turns down the heater to match available
power from the PV but I have looked into this, the savings don't
warrant the expense.


There are a few on the market.
I have installed some Immersun and I believe the sums do add up for
them.
http://www.immersun.co.uk/

On Oct 7, 10:20*am, BruceB wrote:
In article 36aa8579-6f5c-4464-b805-
,
says...



You can buy a gadget that turns down the heater to match available
power from the PV but I have looked into this, the savings don't
warrant the expense.

There are a few on the market.
I have installed some Immersun and I believe the sums do add up for
them.http://www.immersun.co.uk/

Very interesting that one. How much does it cost?

On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:45:49 -0700 (PDT), harry
wrote:

On Oct 7, 10:20*am, BruceB wrote:
In article 36aa8579-6f5c-4464-b805-
,
says...



You can buy a gadget that turns down the heater to match available
power from the PV but I have looked into this, the savings don't
warrant the expense.

There are a few on the market.
I have installed some Immersun and I believe the sums do add up for
them.http://www.immersun.co.uk/

Very interesting that one. How much does it cost?

About £350-450 + installation + VAT, so I can't see it being cost
effective. (Not to mention the highly questionable ethics, if you are
receiving FIT payments.)

On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:42:36 +0100, Bill Taylor wrote:

About £350-450 + installation + VAT, so I can't see it being cost
effective. (Not to mention the highly questionable ethics, if you are
receiving FIT payments.)

Someone receiving FIT payments would hold the view that ethics is somewhere to
the North East of the Thames estuary.

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On Oct 7, 6:42*pm, Bill Taylor wrote:
On Sun, 7 Oct 2012 09:45:49 -0700 (PDT), harry









wrote:
On Oct 7, 10:20*am, BruceB wrote:
In article 36aa8579-6f5c-4464-b805-
,
says...

You can buy a gadget that turns down the heater to match available
power from the PV but I have looked into this, the savings don't
warrant the expense.

There are a few on the market.
I have installed some Immersun and I believe the sums do add up for
them.http://www.immersun.co.uk/

Very interesting that one. How much does it cost?

About £350-450 + installation + VAT, so I can't see it being cost
effective. (Not to mention the highly questionable ethics, if you are
receiving FIT payments.)

The problem is that you have insufficient hot water capacity to store
significant amounts of power.

On Oct 8, 1:32*pm, The Other Mike
wrote:
On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:42:36 +0100, Bill Taylor wrote:
About £350-450 + installation + VAT, so I can't see it being cost
effective. (Not to mention the highly questionable ethics, if you are
receiving FIT payments.)

Someone receiving FIT payments would hold the view that ethics is somewhere to
the North East of the Thames estuary.

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I'm fed up of financially supporting mortgage holders and banksters.
So I feel perfectly entitled to FIT payments.

On 05/10/2012 17:03, Roger Chapman wrote:
Hi all. I am back for a brief visit and some advice so please don't try
to wind me up. Last looked in before Xmas so I have just marked 79,000
headers as read without reading a single one. :-(

I am under the impression that back in the dim and distant past you
could get immersion heaters where the load could be set at 1, 2 or 3 kw.
A quick google has led me only to 3 kw nominal (well one was 2.7)
heaters so do such animals still exist? If so where available or if not
is there some sensible way of reducing the power consumption of a 3 kw
immersion heater to the levels referred to above?


You can certainly readily get a "3 phase" one with three, 1 kW elements.
When you get inside the cap you will find three separate elements.

In article om,
says...

On 05/10/2012 17:03, Roger Chapman wrote:
Hi all. I am back for a brief visit and some advice so please don't try
to wind me up. Last looked in before Xmas so I have just marked 79,000
headers as read without reading a single one. :-(

I am under the impression that back in the dim and distant past you
could get immersion heaters where the load could be set at 1, 2 or 3 kw.
A quick google has led me only to 3 kw nominal (well one was 2.7)
heaters so do such animals still exist? If so where available or if not
is there some sensible way of reducing the power consumption of a 3 kw
immersion heater to the levels referred to above?


You can certainly readily get a "3 phase" one with three, 1 kW elements.
When you get inside the cap you will find three separate elements.

Lots of immersions of different sizes he
http://www.milkingmachines.co.uk/uk2shop-11.htm

On 13/10/2012 11:51, BruceB wrote:
In article om,
says...

On 05/10/2012 17:03, Roger Chapman wrote:
Hi all. I am back for a brief visit and some advice so please don't try
to wind me up. Last looked in before Xmas so I have just marked 79,000
headers as read without reading a single one. :-(

I am under the impression that back in the dim and distant past you
could get immersion heaters where the load could be set at 1, 2 or 3 kw.
A quick google has led me only to 3 kw nominal (well one was 2.7)
heaters so do such animals still exist? If so where available or if not
is there some sensible way of reducing the power consumption of a 3 kw
immersion heater to the levels referred to above?


You can certainly readily get a "3 phase" one with three, 1 kW elements.
When you get inside the cap you will find three separate elements.

Lots of immersions of different sizes he
http://www.milkingmachines.co.uk/uk2shop-11.htm

and every single one 3kW or more...


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Cheers,

John.

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On 13/10/2012 15:13, John Rumm wrote:
On 13/10/2012 11:51, BruceB wrote:
In article om,
says...

On 05/10/2012 17:03, Roger Chapman wrote:
Hi all. I am back for a brief visit and some advice so please don't try
to wind me up. Last looked in before Xmas so I have just marked 79,000
headers as read without reading a single one. :-(

I am under the impression that back in the dim and distant past you
could get immersion heaters where the load could be set at 1, 2 or 3
kw.
A quick google has led me only to 3 kw nominal (well one was 2.7)
heaters so do such animals still exist? If so where available or if not
is there some sensible way of reducing the power consumption of a 3 kw
immersion heater to the levels referred to above?


You can certainly readily get a "3 phase" one with three, 1 kW elements.
When you get inside the cap you will find three separate elements.

Lots of immersions of different sizes he
http://www.milkingmachines.co.uk/uk2shop-11.htm

and every single one 3kW or more...



http://www.carltontech.co.uk/Carlton_Brochure.pdf

I'm sure they have a 3 x 1 kW (sorry, problem with Acrobat so can't open
it to check)


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For every complex problem, there is a solution which is simple, neat,
and wrong.
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