Hi,

Speculative question:

I have 1/4 turn lever taps on the bathroom basin. The splines on the cold
tap are failing (lever spins). I've cleaned the lever and valve splines and
put a few drops of Rocol Threadlock on in an attempt to bond the two togther
- in a way that could probably be sheared with a sharp tap if needed.

Should this not be sucessful, I do have a spare tap. How hard is it to take
the valve out the top of the tap? (The spare tap is identical except for
being 1/2" instead of 3/4" - pretty sure the valve body is the same).

Is it a case of spanner on brass valve flats and unscrew - or am I likely to
be caught out by something weird?

Cheers

Tim

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Tim Watts

On 07/06/2012 22:27, Tim Watts wrote:
Hi,

Speculative question:

I have 1/4 turn lever taps on the bathroom basin. The splines on the cold
tap are failing (lever spins). I've cleaned the lever and valve splines and
put a few drops of Rocol Threadlock on in an attempt to bond the two togther
- in a way that could probably be sheared with a sharp tap if needed.

Should this not be sucessful, I do have a spare tap. How hard is it to take
the valve out the top of the tap? (The spare tap is identical except for
being 1/2" instead of 3/4" - pretty sure the valve body is the same).

Is it a case of spanner on brass valve flats and unscrew - or am I likely to
be caught out by something weird?

Cheers

Tim

Swapping internals is easy, as you describe, but I'd expect the seat
parts to be different sizes on sink and bath taps.

On 07/06/2012 22:27, Tim Watts wrote:
Hi,

Speculative question:

I have 1/4 turn lever taps on the bathroom basin. The splines on the cold
tap are failing (lever spins). I've cleaned the lever and valve splines and
put a few drops of Rocol Threadlock on in an attempt to bond the two togther
- in a way that could probably be sheared with a sharp tap if needed.

Should this not be sucessful, I do have a spare tap. How hard is it to take
the valve out the top of the tap? (The spare tap is identical except for
being 1/2" instead of 3/4" - pretty sure the valve body is the same).

Is it a case of spanner on brass valve flats and unscrew - or am I likely to
be caught out by something weird?

Cheers

Tim



If manufacturer sells spare valve insert .. get one first.
I changed one on my ceramic valves with no problem.

On 07/06/2012 22:27, Tim Watts wrote:
Hi,

Speculative question:

I have 1/4 turn lever taps on the bathroom basin. The splines on the cold
tap are failing (lever spins). I've cleaned the lever and valve splines and
put a few drops of Rocol Threadlock on in an attempt to bond the two togther
- in a way that could probably be sheared with a sharp tap if needed.

Should this not be sucessful, I do have a spare tap. How hard is it to take
the valve out the top of the tap? (The spare tap is identical except for
being 1/2" instead of 3/4" - pretty sure the valve body is the same).

Is it a case of spanner on brass valve flats and unscrew - or am I likely to
be caught out by something weird?

Pretty straight forward IME. Once you have the top off, then whole thing
then normally unscrews from the tap body.


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Cheers,

John.

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John Rumm wrote:

On 07/06/2012 22:27, Tim Watts wrote:
Hi,

Speculative question:

I have 1/4 turn lever taps on the bathroom basin. The splines on the cold
tap are failing (lever spins). I've cleaned the lever and valve splines
and put a few drops of Rocol Threadlock on in an attempt to bond the two
togther - in a way that could probably be sheared with a sharp tap if
needed.

Should this not be sucessful, I do have a spare tap. How hard is it to
take the valve out the top of the tap? (The spare tap is identical except
for being 1/2" instead of 3/4" - pretty sure the valve body is the same).

Is it a case of spanner on brass valve flats and unscrew - or am I likely
to be caught out by something weird?

Pretty straight forward IME. Once you have the top off, then whole thing
then normally unscrews from the tap body.



Thanks all.

I'll pop it out and see if the seats are different.

I'll have to try and remember where I got them to get a spare valve.

I found the culprit - the Rocol worked perfectly, until my daughter touched
it. I have just explained 1/4 turn only require finger pressure, not full-
hand-welly. *sigh*...
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Tim Watts

Rick Hughes wrote:

On 07/06/2012 22:27, Tim Watts wrote:
Hi,

Speculative question:

I have 1/4 turn lever taps on the bathroom basin. The splines on the cold
tap are failing (lever spins). I've cleaned the lever and valve splines
and put a few drops of Rocol Threadlock on in an attempt to bond the two
togther - in a way that could probably be sheared with a sharp tap if
needed.

Should this not be sucessful, I do have a spare tap. How hard is it to
take the valve out the top of the tap? (The spare tap is identical except
for being 1/2" instead of 3/4" - pretty sure the valve body is the same).

Is it a case of spanner on brass valve flats and unscrew - or am I likely
to be caught out by something weird?

Cheers

Tim



If manufacturer sells spare valve insert .. get one first.
I changed one on my ceramic valves with no problem.

Hi,

For now I have put the lever of my spare 1/2" on (lever and bodies are
identical between 1/2 and 3/4"). Seems *reasonably* OK - I think the lever
lost its splines more than the valve spindle.

However, I have found out the specific brand I have a

Ultra Solo CG302 Bath Taps (I used bath on basin for a better fit - 1/2"
slop around in the massive holes).

No luck finding spare valves via google yet - I think I though probably buy
a spare pair of taps while I can for parts, they're only 18 quid a pair so
not too bad...

Cheers

Tim

--
Tim Watts

Tim Watts wrote:

Rick Hughes wrote:

On 07/06/2012 22:27, Tim Watts wrote:
Hi,

Speculative question:

I have 1/4 turn lever taps on the bathroom basin. The splines on the
cold tap are failing (lever spins). I've cleaned the lever and valve
splines and put a few drops of Rocol Threadlock on in an attempt to bond
the two togther - in a way that could probably be sheared with a sharp
tap if needed.

Should this not be sucessful, I do have a spare tap. How hard is it to
take the valve out the top of the tap? (The spare tap is identical
except for being 1/2" instead of 3/4" - pretty sure the valve body is
the same).

Is it a case of spanner on brass valve flats and unscrew - or am I
likely to be caught out by something weird?

Cheers

Tim



If manufacturer sells spare valve insert .. get one first.
I changed one on my ceramic valves with no problem.

Hi,

For now I have put the lever of my spare 1/2" on (lever and bodies are
identical between 1/2 and 3/4"). Seems *reasonably* OK - I think the lever
lost its splines more than the valve spindle.

However, I have found out the specific brand I have a

Ultra Solo CG302 Bath Taps (I used bath on basin for a better fit - 1/2"
slop around in the massive holes).

No luck finding spare valves via google yet - I think I though probably
buy a spare pair of taps while I can for parts, they're only 18 quid a
pair so not too bad...


Ah ha - I think I have it:

http://www.ultra-group.co.uk/Line_Dr...-datasheet.pdf

They are not a current line, but I will ring them in a mo and see about
spares...

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Tim Watts

On 08/06/2012 08:42, Tim Watts wrote:
Rick Hughes wrote:

On 07/06/2012 22:27, Tim Watts wrote:
Hi,

Speculative question:

I have 1/4 turn lever taps on the bathroom basin. The splines on the cold
tap are failing (lever spins). I've cleaned the lever and valve splines
and put a few drops of Rocol Threadlock on in an attempt to bond the two
togther - in a way that could probably be sheared with a sharp tap if
needed.

Should this not be sucessful, I do have a spare tap. How hard is it to
take the valve out the top of the tap? (The spare tap is identical except
for being 1/2" instead of 3/4" - pretty sure the valve body is the same).

Is it a case of spanner on brass valve flats and unscrew - or am I likely
to be caught out by something weird?

Cheers

Tim



If manufacturer sells spare valve insert .. get one first.
I changed one on my ceramic valves with no problem.

Hi,

For now I have put the lever of my spare 1/2" on (lever and bodies are
identical between 1/2 and 3/4"). Seems *reasonably* OK - I think the lever
lost its splines more than the valve spindle.

However, I have found out the specific brand I have a

Ultra Solo CG302 Bath Taps (I used bath on basin for a better fit - 1/2"
slop around in the massive holes).

No luck finding spare valves via google yet - I think I though probably buy
a spare pair of taps while I can for parts, they're only 18 quid a pair so
not too bad...

Cheers

Tim

Try here http://www.shop.lunns.net/tap-spares-8-c.asp

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Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

The Medway Handyman wrote:


Try here http://www.shop.lunns.net/tap-spares-8-c.asp


Thanks Dave,

That's very useful - ta

I rang the manufacturer and they said £28/pair for valves+levers. I pointed
out I could get an entire pair of taps on ebay for £18-22 - but it was the
kids fault for being ham fisted and stripping the splines.

After a moment, she said she's send me a pair gratis - now I am impressed

Cheers,

Tim
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Tim Watts

On 08/06/2012 08:23, Tim Watts wrote:
John Rumm wrote:

On 07/06/2012 22:27, Tim Watts wrote:
Hi,

Speculative question:

I have 1/4 turn lever taps on the bathroom basin. The splines on the cold
tap are failing (lever spins). I've cleaned the lever and valve splines
and put a few drops of Rocol Threadlock on in an attempt to bond the two
togther - in a way that could probably be sheared with a sharp tap if
needed.

Should this not be sucessful, I do have a spare tap. How hard is it to
take the valve out the top of the tap? (The spare tap is identical except
for being 1/2" instead of 3/4" - pretty sure the valve body is the same).

Is it a case of spanner on brass valve flats and unscrew - or am I likely
to be caught out by something weird?

Pretty straight forward IME. Once you have the top off, then whole thing
then normally unscrews from the tap body.



Thanks all.

I'll pop it out and see if the seats are different.

I'll have to try and remember where I got them to get a spare valve.

I found the culprit - the Rocol worked perfectly, until my daughter touched
it. I have just explained 1/4 turn only require finger pressure, not full-
hand-welly. *sigh*...

Some folks do seem to like to twist the nuts off every tap they meet!

--
Cheers,

John.

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John Rumm wrote:


Some folks do seem to like to twist the nuts off every tap they meet!


She's been told she'll be helping to fix it, when I get the free valves the
manufacturer promised me today. Plumbing for 8 year olds...
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Tim Watts