The broom handle has broken near the head.

I want to cut the broken bit of the handle and refit the head

The original handle was reduced in diameter at the end to fit the hole
in the broom head.

The fitting on the head is plastic so can't make hole bigger

I need to reduce the diameter of the handle along a length of 2" to
fit into head. It needs to be uniform for a good fit.

I have no lathe.

I've tried to do this before using a table saw tuning the handle held
against the mitre gauge against the blade.

It sort of works but it really needs a jig of some sort to be safe and
accurate.

Any body got any good ideas other than buy a new broom ?


Chris

On 20/02/2012 12:22, wrote:
The broom handle has broken near the head.

I want to cut the broken bit of the handle and refit the head

The original handle was reduced in diameter at the end to fit the hole
in the broom head.

The fitting on the head is plastic so can't make hole bigger

I need to reduce the diameter of the handle along a length of 2" to
fit into head. It needs to be uniform for a good fit.

I have no lathe.

I've tried to do this before using a table saw tuning the handle held
against the mitre gauge against the blade.

It sort of works but it really needs a jig of some sort to be safe and
accurate.

Any body got any good ideas other than buy a new broom ?


Chris


I'd go for sanding rather than sawing. I happen to have a bench-mounted
belt sander, and it's not too difficult to do by hand with one of these.
Otherwise, the quick way to sand wood is with a sanding disk in, yes,
you've guessed, an angle grinder. You can finish off by hand with sandpaper.

On Feb 20, 12:22*pm, wrote:
The broom handle has broken near the head.

I want to cut the broken bit of the handle and refit the head

The original handle was reduced in diameter at the end to fit the hole
in the broom head.

The fitting on the head is plastic *so can't make hole bigger

I need to reduce the diameter of the handle along a length of 2" to
fit into head. It needs to be uniform for a good fit.

I have no lathe.

I've tried to do this before using a table saw *tuning the handle held
against the mitre gauge *against the blade.

It sort of works but it really needs a jig of some sort to be safe and
accurate.

Any body got any good ideas other than buy a new broom ?

Chris

Spokeshave would be the classic tool for the job, Stanley knife if I
had no other tools.

I've read (but not tried) that you can use the fence rather than the
mitre gauge on a table saw to do this.

Fence set to less than the diameter of the broom handle, end of the
broom handle introduced a few mm between blade and fence, turn the
broom handle axially until the diameter reduced, advance another few
mm, repeat.

This procedure doesn't sound entirely safe, with a chance that the
blade may snatch at the job - but likely to be quicker than your
original method.

On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:22:37 +0000,
wrote:

I need to reduce the diameter of the handle along a length of 2" to
fit into head. It needs to be uniform for a good fit.

I have no lathe.

Whittle it down with a sharp knife or chisel, bit like sharpening a
pencil. Using a chisel with the bevel against the broom handle will
be easier than a knife to produce a parallel sided diameter
reduction.

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Cheers
Dave.

:
The broom handle has broken near the head.

I want to cut the broken bit of the handle and refit the head

[...]

Any body got any good ideas other than buy a new broom ?

I'd clamp it in the jaws of the workmate and use a rasp on it.

--
Mike Barnes

Newshound wrote:
On 20/02/2012 12:22, wrote:
The broom handle has broken near the head.

I want to cut the broken bit of the handle and refit the head

The original handle was reduced in diameter at the end to fit the hole
in the broom head.

The fitting on the head is plastic so can't make hole bigger

I need to reduce the diameter of the handle along a length of 2" to
fit into head. It needs to be uniform for a good fit.

I have no lathe.

I've tried to do this before using a table saw tuning the handle held
against the mitre gauge against the blade.

It sort of works but it really needs a jig of some sort to be safe and
accurate.

Any body got any good ideas other than buy a new broom ?


Chris


I'd go for sanding rather than sawing. I happen to have a bench-mounted
belt sander, and it's not too difficult to do by hand with one of these.
Otherwise, the quick way to sand wood is with a sanding disk in, yes,
you've guessed, an angle grinder. You can finish off by hand with
sandpaper.

power planer works(-ish) at least to pull material off fast.

You could make a pole lathe

On 20/02/2012 13:10, wrote:
On Feb 20, 12:22 pm, wrote:
The broom handle has broken near the head.

I want to cut the broken bit of the handle and refit the head

The original handle was reduced in diameter at the end to fit the hole
in the broom head.

The fitting on the head is plastic so can't make hole bigger

I need to reduce the diameter of the handle along a length of 2" to
fit into head. It needs to be uniform for a good fit.

I have no lathe.

I've tried to do this before using a table saw tuning the handle held
against the mitre gauge against the blade.

It sort of works but it really needs a jig of some sort to be safe and
accurate.

Any body got any good ideas other than buy a new broom ?

Chris

Spokeshave would be the classic tool for the job, Stanley knife if I
had no other tools.

I've read (but not tried) that you can use the fence rather than the
mitre gauge on a table saw to do this.

Fence set to less than the diameter of the broom handle, end of the
broom handle introduced a few mm between blade and fence, turn the
broom handle axially until the diameter reduced, advance another few
mm, repeat.

This procedure doesn't sound entirely safe, with a chance that the
blade may snatch at the job - but likely to be quicker than your
original method.

I would imagine if doing this, you would want to locate the handle in
the corner of the table to fence angle, and advance into the blade a
couple of inches and then withdraw it completely. Then rotate a small
amount and repeat. Don't go twisting the shaft while it is in the blade
since that will be a good way for bad things to happen. Keep doing this
until you have made enough cuts to have a round enough polygon.

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Cheers,

John.

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On Feb 20, 12:22*pm, wrote:
The broom handle has broken near the head.

I want to cut the broken bit of the handle and refit the head

The original handle was reduced in diameter at the end to fit the hole
in the broom head.

The fitting on the head is plastic *so can't make hole bigger

I need to reduce the diameter of the handle along a length of 2" to
fit into head. It needs to be uniform for a good fit.

I have no lathe.

I've tried to do this before using a table saw *tuning the handle held
against the mitre gauge *against the blade.

It sort of works but it really needs a jig of some sort to be safe and
accurate.

Any body got any good ideas other than buy a new broom ?

Chris

Buy a new broom, life's to short!

In message , Huge
writes
On 2012-02-20, Mike Barnes wrote:
:
The broom handle has broken near the head.

I want to cut the broken bit of the handle and refit the head

[...]

Any body got any good ideas other than buy a new broom ?

I'd clamp it in the jaws of the workmate and use a rasp on it.

Or (shock horror), a Surform.

Just an aside...

I've had a Surform plane for around 40 years. It was only used
occasionally, and I hadn't seen it for several years. Recently, I
realised that it was a good tool for what I wanted to do, so I dug it
out from where it was hiding. Then it suddenly dawned on me, "Is it
pronounced "sir form", or is it "sure form" (which is what I've always
called it)?
--
Ian

Mike Barnes wrote:


I'd clamp it in the jaws of the workmate and use a rasp on it.


I used to have a mate like that.

Bill

"Graham Jones" wrote in message
...
On Feb 20, 12:22 pm, wrote:
The broom handle has broken near the head.

I want to cut the broken bit of the handle and refit the head

The original handle was reduced in diameter at the end to fit the hole
in the broom head.

The fitting on the head is plastic so can't make hole bigger

I need to reduce the diameter of the handle along a length of 2" to
fit into head. It needs to be uniform for a good fit.

I have no lathe.

I've tried to do this before using a table saw tuning the handle held
against the mitre gauge against the blade.

It sort of works but it really needs a jig of some sort to be safe and
accurate.

Any body got any good ideas other than buy a new broom ?

Chris

Buy a new broom, life's to short!

That is the correct answer.

On 20/02/2012 15:37, Graham Jones wrote:
On Feb 20, 12:22 pm, wrote:
The broom handle has broken near the head.

I want to cut the broken bit of the handle and refit the head

The original handle was reduced in diameter at the end to fit the hole
in the broom head.

The fitting on the head is plastic so can't make hole bigger

I need to reduce the diameter of the handle along a length of 2" to
fit into head. It needs to be uniform for a good fit.

I have no lathe.

I've tried to do this before using a table saw tuning the handle held
against the mitre gauge against the blade.

It sort of works but it really needs a jig of some sort to be safe and
accurate.

Any body got any good ideas other than buy a new broom ?

Chris

Buy a new broom, life's to short!
Reminds me of the Only Fools and Horses sketch with trigger saying he
had the same broom for 30 years....

It had 10 new heads and 7 handles it that time though....

--
Regards
Camdor.

On 20/02/2012 17:30, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Huge
writes
On 2012-02-20, Mike Barnes wrote:
:
The broom handle has broken near the head.

I want to cut the broken bit of the handle and refit the head

[...]

Any body got any good ideas other than buy a new broom ?

I'd clamp it in the jaws of the workmate and use a rasp on it.

Or (shock horror), a Surform.

Just an aside...

I've had a Surform plane for around 40 years. It was only used
occasionally, and I hadn't seen it for several years. Recently, I
realised that it was a good tool for what I wanted to do, so I dug it
out from where it was hiding. Then it suddenly dawned on me, "Is it
pronounced "sir form", or is it "sure form" (which is what I've always
called it)?

I have always used the former...

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Cheers,

John.

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Ian Jackson :
I've had a Surform plane for around 40 years. It was only used
occasionally, and I hadn't seen it for several years. Recently, I
realised that it was a good tool for what I wanted to do, so I dug it
out from where it was hiding. Then it suddenly dawned on me, "Is it
pronounced "sir form", or is it "sure form" (which is what I've always
called it)?

surf-orm in our family.

--
Mike Barnes

In message , Mike Barnes
writes
Ian Jackson :
I've had a Surform plane for around 40 years. It was only used
occasionally, and I hadn't seen it for several years. Recently, I
realised that it was a good tool for what I wanted to do, so I dug it
out from where it was hiding. Then it suddenly dawned on me, "Is it
pronounced "sir form", or is it "sure form" (which is what I've always
called it)?

surf-orm in our family.


Thanks for the three 'verdicts'. Actually, I really meant to say I
called "sir form", so I guess that "sir-form" or "surf-orm" wins 4 to 3.
--
Ian

On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:55:52 +0000, John Rumm
wrote:

On 20/02/2012 17:30, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Huge
writes
On 2012-02-20, Mike Barnes wrote:
:
The broom handle has broken near the head.

I want to cut the broken bit of the handle and refit the head

[...]

Any body got any good ideas other than buy a new broom ?

I'd clamp it in the jaws of the workmate and use a rasp on it.

Or (shock horror), a Surform.

Just an aside...

I've had a Surform plane for around 40 years. It was only used
occasionally, and I hadn't seen it for several years. Recently, I
realised that it was a good tool for what I wanted to do, so I dug it
out from where it was hiding. Then it suddenly dawned on me, "Is it
pronounced "sir form", or is it "sure form" (which is what I've always
called it)?

I have always used the former...

AOL
Me too
/AOL

--
Frank Erskine

Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Mike Barnes
writes
Ian Jackson :
I've had a Surform plane for around 40 years. It was only used
occasionally, and I hadn't seen it for several years. Recently, I
realised that it was a good tool for what I wanted to do, so I dug it
out from where it was hiding. Then it suddenly dawned on me, "Is it
pronounced "sir form", or is it "sure form" (which is what I've always
called it)?

surf-orm in our family.


Thanks for the three 'verdicts'. Actually, I really meant to say I
called "sir form", so I guess that "sir-form" or "surf-orm" wins 4 to 3.
all wrong, "cheese grater"

Surfirm pronounce like €œsir€� form. From the Latin word sur meaning over and above.

wrote:
Surfirm pronounce like €œsir€� form. From the Latin word sur meaning over and above.


Youre replying to a 6 year old message and you cant even spell €œSurform€�
correctly.

Tim

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Please don't feed the trolls

Yes I have had this same broom for 10 years its only had two new handles
and4 new heads.
Bryan

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Surfirm pronounce like "sir" form. From the Latin word sur meaning over
and above.


You're replying to a 6 year old message and you can't even spell "Surform"
correctly.

Tim

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Never reduce the diameter with a sharp tool. Timber is a natural product and expands and contracts. Take a hammer and hit around the end of the pole to flatten it just enough to bang the handle home. The timber will return to its original size and shape and give a solid tight fit. Wack the screw in and bobs your uncle �

Maybe but I used to take the opposite approach, making the hole slightly
bigger, otherwise you get the lateral wobble issue I found.
Brian

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Never reduce the diameter with a sharp tool. Timber is a natural product and
expands and contracts. Take a hammer and hit around the end of the pole to
flatten it just enough to bang the handle home. The timber will return to
its original size and shape and give a solid tight fit. Wack the screw in
and bobs your uncle ??