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Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets.
Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com It's an age-old truism. Men will quickly fall asleep after having sex. And I know why, too. It's because they've been up half the night begging for it. |
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Lieutenant Scott wrote:
I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. Ooh err missus. -- Adam |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 20:34:31 -0000, ARWadsworth wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. Ooh err missus. Always grease the shaft. -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com They say confuscious does his crosswords with a pen. |
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In message op.v650f0lsytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott
wrote I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. I was attempting to fit a couple of cheap "made in China" TV sockets today. In each socket, 4 screws in total and 3 different styles of cross heads. Designed by someone who has never had to fix 6/7mm coax cable to a wall socket. -- Alan news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 21:44:22 -0000, Alan wrote:
In message op.v650f0lsytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott wrote I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. I was attempting to fit a couple of cheap "made in China" TV sockets today. In each socket, 4 screws in total and 3 different styles of cross heads. Designed by someone who has never had to fix 6/7mm coax cable to a wall socket. At least they were crossheads. -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com Paddy and his wife are lying in bed and the neighbours' dog is barking like mad in the garden. Paddy says "To hell with this!" and storms off. He comes back upstairs 5 minutes later and his wife asks "What did you do?" Paddy replies "I've put the dog in our garden. Let's see how they like it!" |
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On Dec 27, 9:44*pm, Alan wrote:
In message op.v650f0lsytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott wrote I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? *Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. *And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. I was attempting to fit a couple of cheap "made in China" TV sockets today. In each socket, 4 screws in total and 3 different styles of cross heads. Designed *by someone who has never had to fix *6/7mm coax cable to a wall socket. It's easier if you take the wall away. |
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 03:22:15 -0000, thirty-six wrote:
On Dec 27, 9:44 pm, Alan wrote: In message op.v650f0lsytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott wrote I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. I was attempting to fit a couple of cheap "made in China" TV sockets today. In each socket, 4 screws in total and 3 different styles of cross heads. Designed by someone who has never had to fix 6/7mm coax cable to a wall socket. It's easier if you take the wall away. The original task may become easier, but now you have a wall replacement job. -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com What's the difference between PMS and Mad Cow Disease? The number of tits. |
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On 28/12/2011 9:27 a.m., Lieutenant Scott wrote:
I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. Builders in these parts seem to be adopting screws with a square hole (don't know what they're called). They allow very high torque to be applied. |
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Gib Bogle wrote:
Builders in these parts seem to be adopting screws with a square hole (don't know what they're called). They allow very high torque to be applied. Robertson screw I think ... |
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Gib Bogle wrote: On 28/12/2011 9:27 a.m., Lieutenant Scott wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. Builders in these parts seem to be adopting screws with a square hole (don't know what they're called). They allow very high torque to be applied. Robertson - standard in Canada, I'm told. -- From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.16 |
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On Dec 27, 10:45*pm, charles wrote:
In article , * *Gib Bogle wrote: On 28/12/2011 9:27 a.m., Lieutenant Scott wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. Builders in these parts seem to be adopting screws with a square hole (don't know what they're called). *They allow very high torque to be applied. Robertson - standard in Canada, I'm told. -- From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.16 I'm lead to believe that that type of screw head has been in use across the pond since well before the war. We had a set of dining table chairs that were pre-war according to the family source, that had screws like that. The age was backed up by the fact that they were glued with hide glue. I had to make up a tool to take the screws out when maintenance was called for. Rob |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:36:52 -0000, Gib Bogle wrote:
On 28/12/2011 9:27 a.m., Lieutenant Scott wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. Builders in these parts seem to be adopting screws with a square hole (don't know what they're called). They allow very high torque to be applied. Is the shaft of the screw equally strong? I've snapped screws by applying too much torque. -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com Many years ago in Scotland, a new game was invented. It was ruled "Gentlemen Only...Ladies Forbidden"...and thus the word GOLF entered into the English language. |
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On Dec 27, 8:27*pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote:
I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? *Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. *And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. looks NT |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:51:12 -0000, NT wrote:
On Dec 27, 8:27 pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. looks could kill. -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com If you are going to try cross-country skiing, start with a small country. |
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On 27/12/2011 22:58, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:51:12 -0000, NT wrote: On Dec 27, 8:27 pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. looks like one day all prison officers will be Poles -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 00:08:42 -0000, Graham. wrote:
On 27/12/2011 22:58, Lieutenant Scott wrote: On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:51:12 -0000, NT wrote: On Dec 27, 8:27 pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. looks like one day all prison officers will be Poles Steel poles? Concrete pillars? Or Polish? If so what flavour of polish? -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com What's the difference between PMS and Mad Cow Disease? The number of tits. |
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On Dec 28, 3:55*pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote:
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 00:08:42 -0000, Graham. wrote: On 27/12/2011 22:58, Lieutenant Scott wrote: On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:51:12 -0000, NT wrote: On Dec 27, 8:27 pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. looks * * * * * like one day all prison officers will be Poles Steel poles? *Concrete pillars? *Or Polish? *If so what flavour of polish? Lemon and lime. |
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In article op.v650f0lsytk5n5@i7-940,
Lieutenant Scott wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidriv look cheap and nasty. I won't use them where they show. -- *Why isn't there a special name for the back of your knee? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Dec 27, 11:39*pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: Pozidriv look cheap and nasty. I won't use them where they show. Oh kind of, it's an age thing and I'm young enough to remember slotted but it's a bit prissy (in me too). Torx (or less so Allen) look better than than slotted to me, although it's a bit context dependent. |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 23:39:29 -0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article op.v650f0lsytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidriv look cheap and nasty. I won't use them where they show. WTF? How do they look any cheaper than straight ones?!? If I want fancy screwheads, I buy brass ones. -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com I've got trouble with the wife again - she came into the bar looking for me and I asked for her number. |
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Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
In article op.v67ig1z0ytk5n5@i7-940,
Lieutenant Scott wrote: Pozidriv look cheap and nasty. I won't use them where they show. WTF? How do they look any cheaper than straight ones?!? It's a taste thing. I do realise there are people with none. -- *All men are idiots, and I married their King. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:54:16 -0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article op.v67ig1z0ytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott wrote: Pozidriv look cheap and nasty. I won't use them where they show. WTF? How do they look any cheaper than straight ones?!? It's a taste thing. I do realise there are people with none. I think you have no taste, the pozidrive ones are better looking. -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com Runtime Error 6D at 417A:32CF: Incompetent User. |
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In article op.v7a6v5dxytk5n5@i7-940,
Lieutenant Scott wrote: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:54:16 -0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article op.v67ig1z0ytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott wrote: Pozidriv look cheap and nasty. I won't use them where they show. WTF? How do they look any cheaper than straight ones?!? It's a taste thing. I do realise there are people with none. I think you have no taste, the pozidrive ones are better looking. QED -- *Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off NOW. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 30/12/2011 15:34, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:54:16 -0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article op.v67ig1z0ytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott wrote: Pozidriv look cheap and nasty. I won't use them where they show. WTF? How do they look any cheaper than straight ones?!? It's a taste thing. I do realise there are people with none. I think you have no taste, the pozidrive ones are better looking. Besides which, they don't need to be turned to far to make them line up  Personally I feel that while they might _look_ prettier with the heads all lined up, I want the thing strong. Which means the same torque setting, and never mind the lining up. Andy |
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On Dec 27, 11:39*pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article op.v650f0lsytk5n5@i7-940, * *Lieutenant Scott wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? *Eg in sockets. Pozidriv look cheap and nasty. I won't use them where they show. -- *Why isn't there a special name for the back of your knee? the subject of a "Fast Show" sketch, AIR rusty |
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:27:10 -0000, therustyone wrote:
On Dec 27, 11:39 pm, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: In article op.v650f0lsytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidriv look cheap and nasty. I won't use them where they show. -- *Why isn't there a special name for the back of your knee? the subject of a "Fast Show" sketch, AIR The knee or the pozidrive? -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com Basketball analyst: "He dribbles a lot and the opposition doesn't like it. In fact you can see it all over their faces." |
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On 28/12/2011 17:27, therustyone wrote:
On Dec 27, 11:39 pm, "Dave Plowman wrote: In articleop.v650f0lsytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidriv look cheap and nasty. I won't use them where they show. -- *Why isn't there a special name for the back of your knee? popliteal fossa -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 18:03:42 -0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 28/12/2011 17:27, therustyone wrote: On Dec 27, 11:39 pm, "Dave Plowman wrote: In articleop.v650f0lsytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidriv look cheap and nasty. I won't use them where they show. -- *Why isn't there a special name for the back of your knee? popliteal fossa ****. -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com REALITY.EXE corrupt. Reboot universe (Y/N)? |
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"Lieutenant Scott" wrote in message news  p.v650f0lsytk5n5@i7-940...I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. Even more annoying ius when they are cross haed of inderterminate type ... no extra x so they they be phillips ... yet angle is wrong and Phillipos drivers simply cam out. As to why we won;t go all Pozi ... simple, US uses choses not to use Pozi. |
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 01:51:42 +0000, Rick Hughes wrote:
As to why we won;t go all Pozi ... simple, US uses choses not to use Pozi. Yes, they don't seem very common here - it's all Phillips for normal work, and Robertson or Torx for anything that needs something a bit more heavy-duty. Or at least, that's what I've found on the DIY side of things, anyway. It makes sense to me though - there's no point throwing another standard into the pot when what you have covers all bases. cheers Jules |
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On Dec 28, 1:51*am, "Rick Hughes"
wrote: "Lieutenant Scott" wrote in message news [email protected] go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea withpeople still using straight ones? *Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. *And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. Even more annoying ius when they are cross haed of inderterminate type .... Reed and Prince is one sufficiently different (thinner) from a Philip's to warrant a seperate driver and there was another which was like the pozi dimensionally but without the gripper and this could be made from a Philip's driver by filing back. I came across another simple cross head "common" design in electrical and cabinet work in which the blade thickness of the driver narrowed to the edge of the screw head but can't remenber the name of this one either. no extra x so they they be phillips ... yet angle is wrong and Phillipos drivers simply cam out. Sometimes it's just a truncated philips head that is required, touch the end of the driver with a grinder. As to why we won;t go all Pozi ... simple, US uses choses not to use Pozi.. GKN have the rights to it. |
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 19:34:45 -0800 (PST), thirty-six
wrote: On Dec 28, 1:51*am, "Rick Hughes" wrote: As to why we won;t go all Pozi ... simple, US uses choses not to use Pozi. GKN have the rights to it. ....in the UK and possibly in some bits of the old empire. Have a look who invented Posidriv and in what country, the answer surprises many. It wasn't GKN, nor in the UK. -- |
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On Dec 28, 9:21*am, The Other Mike
wrote: On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 19:34:45 -0800 (PST), thirty-six wrote: On Dec 28, 1:51*am, "Rick Hughes" wrote: As to why we won;t go all Pozi ... simple, US uses choses not to use Pozi. GKN have the rights to it. ...in the UK and possibly in some bits of the old empire. Have a look who invented Posidriv and in what country, *the answer surprises many. It wasn't GKN, nor in the UK. -- Bit on the topic here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw_head There's a few I've never seen. |
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On 2011-12-28, harry wrote:
Bit on the topic here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw_head There's a few I've never seen. "The nice thing about standards is that you have so many to choose from." (Andrew Tanenbaum) |
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"The Other Mike" wrote in message news  On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 19:34:45 -0800 (PST), thirty-six wrote: On Dec 28, 1:51 am, "Rick Hughes" wrote: As to why we won;t go all Pozi ... simple, US uses choses not to use Pozi. GKN have the rights to it. ...in the UK and possibly in some bits of the old empire. Have a look who invented Posidriv and in what country, the answer surprises many. It wasn't GKN, nor in the UK. Philips in the USA. |
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:30:14 +0000, Doctor Drivel wrote:
"The Other Mike" wrote in message news On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 19:34:45 -0800 (PST), thirty-six wrote: On Dec 28, 1:51 am, "Rick Hughes" wrote: As to why we won;t go all Pozi ... simple, US uses choses not to use Pozi. GKN have the rights to it. ...in the UK and possibly in some bits of the old empire. Have a look who invented Posidriv and in what country, the answer surprises many. It wasn't GKN, nor in the UK. Philips in the USA. Phillips. -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 03:34:45 -0000, thirty-six wrote:
On Dec 28, 1:51 am, "Rick Hughes" wrote: "Lieutenant Scott" wrote in message news [email protected] go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea withpeople still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. Even more annoying ius when they are cross haed of inderterminate type ... Reed and Prince is one sufficiently different (thinner) from a Philip's to warrant a seperate driver and there was another which was like the pozi dimensionally but without the gripper and this could be made from a Philip's driver by filing back. I came across another simple cross head "common" design in electrical and cabinet work in which the blade thickness of the driver narrowed to the edge of the screw head but can't remenber the name of this one either. I've never found a screw which doesn't fit a pozi or philips driver well. no extra x so they they be phillips ... yet angle is wrong and Phillipos drivers simply cam out. Sometimes it's just a truncated philips head that is required, touch the end of the driver with a grinder. As to why we won;t go all Pozi ... simple, US uses choses not to use Pozi. GKN have the rights to it. Millions of people are making pozis, I can't see there being a rights problem. Anyway how did they manage to patent something which is not significantly different to a philips? -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com A single blonde pregnant girl goes to the grocery store. A couple that she knows notices she's pregnant. The lady asks her, "Whose baby is it?" The blonde says, "Well, I don't know they are going to do blood tests, but I think it's mine." |
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 16:00:41 -0000, "Lieutenant Scott"
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Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 16:14:17 -0000, The Other Mike wrote:
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 16:00:41 -0000, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote: Anyway how did they manage to patent something which is not significantly different to a philips? Because it is radically different to a Phillips with different design objectives. Read and understand the patents for each and then you will appreciate this. There's a tiny little fraction of a millimetre difference. It's a philips with the bug removed - the edges weren't straight enough. Patents screw up the world. -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com As they say at Microsoft - "What do you want to reinstall today?" |
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Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On 28/12/2011 16:00, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 03:34:45 -0000, thirty-six wrote: On Dec 28, 1:51 am, "Rick Hughes" wrote: "Lieutenant Scott" wrote in message news [email protected] go out of my way to get pozidrivescrews - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. Even more annoying ius when they are cross haed of inderterminate type ... Reed and Prince is one sufficiently different (thinner) from a Philip's to warrant a seperate driver and there was another which was like the pozi dimensionally but without the gripper and this could be made from a Philip's driver by filing back. I came across another simple cross head "common" design in electrical and cabinet work in which the blade thickness of the driver narrowed to the edge of the screw head but can't remenber the name of this one either. I've never found a screw which doesn't fit a pozi or philips driver well. They are not interchangeable especially if you are using an impact driver. no extra x so they they be phillips ... yet angle is wrong and Phillipos drivers simply cam out. Sometimes it's just a truncated philips head that is required, touch the end of the driver with a grinder. As to why we won;t go all Pozi ... simple, US uses choses not to use Pozi. GKN have the rights to it. Millions of people are making pozis, I can't see there being a rights problem. Anyway how did they manage to patent something which is not significantly different to a philips? They are significantly different. Phillips were designed to cam out, pozi weren't. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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