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Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets.
Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com It's an age-old truism. Men will quickly fall asleep after having sex. And I know why, too. It's because they've been up half the night begging for it. |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
Lieutenant Scott wrote:
I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. Ooh err missus. -- Adam |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
In message op.v650f0lsytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott
wrote I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. I was attempting to fit a couple of cheap "made in China" TV sockets today. In each socket, 4 screws in total and 3 different styles of cross heads. Designed by someone who has never had to fix 6/7mm coax cable to a wall socket. -- Alan news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On 28/12/2011 9:27 a.m., Lieutenant Scott wrote:
I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. Builders in these parts seem to be adopting screws with a square hole (don't know what they're called). They allow very high torque to be applied. |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
Gib Bogle wrote:
Builders in these parts seem to be adopting screws with a square hole (don't know what they're called). They allow very high torque to be applied. Robertson screw I think ... |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
In article ,
Gib Bogle wrote: On 28/12/2011 9:27 a.m., Lieutenant Scott wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. Builders in these parts seem to be adopting screws with a square hole (don't know what they're called). They allow very high torque to be applied. Robertson - standard in Canada, I'm told. -- From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.16 |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On Dec 27, 8:27*pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote:
I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? *Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. *And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. looks NT |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 20:34:31 -0000, ARWadsworth wrote:
Lieutenant Scott wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. Ooh err missus. Always grease the shaft. -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com They say confuscious does his crosswords with a pen. |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 21:44:22 -0000, Alan wrote:
In message op.v650f0lsytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott wrote I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. I was attempting to fit a couple of cheap "made in China" TV sockets today. In each socket, 4 screws in total and 3 different styles of cross heads. Designed by someone who has never had to fix 6/7mm coax cable to a wall socket. At least they were crossheads. -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com Paddy and his wife are lying in bed and the neighbours' dog is barking like mad in the garden. Paddy says "To hell with this!" and storms off. He comes back upstairs 5 minutes later and his wife asks "What did you do?" Paddy replies "I've put the dog in our garden. Let's see how they like it!" |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:36:52 -0000, Gib Bogle wrote:
On 28/12/2011 9:27 a.m., Lieutenant Scott wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. Builders in these parts seem to be adopting screws with a square hole (don't know what they're called). They allow very high torque to be applied. Is the shaft of the screw equally strong? I've snapped screws by applying too much torque. -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com Many years ago in Scotland, a new game was invented. It was ruled "Gentlemen Only...Ladies Forbidden"...and thus the word GOLF entered into the English language. |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:51:12 -0000, NT wrote:
On Dec 27, 8:27 pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. looks could kill. -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com If you are going to try cross-country skiing, start with a small country. |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
In article op.v650f0lsytk5n5@i7-940,
Lieutenant Scott wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidriv look cheap and nasty. I won't use them where they show. -- *Why isn't there a special name for the back of your knee? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On 27/12/2011 22:58, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:51:12 -0000, NT wrote: On Dec 27, 8:27 pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. looks like one day all prison officers will be Poles -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On Dec 27, 11:39*pm, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: Pozidriv look cheap and nasty. I won't use them where they show. Oh kind of, it's an age thing and I'm young enough to remember slotted but it's a bit prissy (in me too). Torx (or less so Allen) look better than than slotted to me, although it's a bit context dependent. |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
"Lieutenant Scott" wrote in message news:op.v650f0lsytk5n5@i7-940... I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. Even more annoying ius when they are cross haed of inderterminate type ... no extra x so they they be phillips ... yet angle is wrong and Phillipos drivers simply cam out. As to why we won;t go all Pozi ... simple, US uses choses not to use Pozi. |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On Dec 27, 9:44*pm, Alan wrote:
In message op.v650f0lsytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott wrote I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? *Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. *And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. I was attempting to fit a couple of cheap "made in China" TV sockets today. In each socket, 4 screws in total and 3 different styles of cross heads. Designed *by someone who has never had to fix *6/7mm coax cable to a wall socket. It's easier if you take the wall away. |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 01:51:42 +0000, Rick Hughes wrote:
As to why we won;t go all Pozi ... simple, US uses choses not to use Pozi. Yes, they don't seem very common here - it's all Phillips for normal work, and Robertson or Torx for anything that needs something a bit more heavy-duty. Or at least, that's what I've found on the DIY side of things, anyway. It makes sense to me though - there's no point throwing another standard into the pot when what you have covers all bases. cheers Jules |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On Dec 28, 1:51*am, "Rick Hughes"
wrote: "Lieutenant Scott" wrote in message news:[email protected] go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? *Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. *And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. Even more annoying ius when they are cross haed of inderterminate type .... Reed and Prince is one sufficiently different (thinner) from a Philip's to warrant a seperate driver and there was another which was like the pozi dimensionally but without the gripper and this could be made from a Philip's driver by filing back. I came across another simple cross head "common" design in electrical and cabinet work in which the blade thickness of the driver narrowed to the edge of the screw head but can't remenber the name of this one either. no extra x so they they be phillips ... yet angle is wrong and Phillipos drivers simply cam out. Sometimes it's just a truncated philips head that is required, touch the end of the driver with a grinder. As to why we won;t go all Pozi ... simple, US uses choses not to use Pozi.. GKN have the rights to it. |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On Dec 27, 8:27*pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote:
I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? *Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. *And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. --http://petersparrots.comhttp://petersphotos.com It's an age-old truism. *Men will quickly fall asleep after having sex. And I know why, too. It's because they've been up half the night begging for it. A straight screwdriver can be sharpened forever. Pozidrive a couple of times if you're careful. Pozidrive is only practcal on hardened screws. The head on pozidrive is quite easy to chew up too. |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
"harry" wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 8:27 pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote: The head on pozidrive is quite easy to chew up too. When using quality screws and bits/screwdriver of the correct size, they do not chew up. |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
Lieutenant Scott :
I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Screws on electrical terminals generally have slotted heads. Perhaps someone can explain why. Similarly they generally have very fine threads - I don't know whether there's a connection g. -- Mike Barnes |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
I blame the screwdriver makers myself. I actually never saw a socket head or
posi screw till I was at least 25.. The correct screwdriver for the slot used to help a lot though. Brian -- Brian Gaff - Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! "Lieutenant Scott" wrote in message news:op.v650f0lsytk5n5@i7-940... I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com It's an age-old truism. Men will quickly fall asleep after having sex. And I know why, too. It's because they've been up half the night begging for it. |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 19:34:45 -0800 (PST), thirty-six
wrote: On Dec 28, 1:51*am, "Rick Hughes" wrote: As to why we won;t go all Pozi ... simple, US uses choses not to use Pozi. GKN have the rights to it. ....in the UK and possibly in some bits of the old empire. Have a look who invented Posidriv and in what country, the answer surprises many. It wasn't GKN, nor in the UK. -- |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On Dec 28, 9:21*am, The Other Mike
wrote: On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 19:34:45 -0800 (PST), thirty-six wrote: On Dec 28, 1:51*am, "Rick Hughes" wrote: As to why we won;t go all Pozi ... simple, US uses choses not to use Pozi. GKN have the rights to it. ...in the UK and possibly in some bits of the old empire. Have a look who invented Posidriv and in what country, *the answer surprises many. It wasn't GKN, nor in the UK. -- Bit on the topic here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw_head There's a few I've never seen. |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
"The Other Mike" wrote in message ... On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 19:34:45 -0800 (PST), thirty-six wrote: On Dec 28, 1:51 am, "Rick Hughes" wrote: As to why we won;t go all Pozi ... simple, US uses choses not to use Pozi. GKN have the rights to it. ...in the UK and possibly in some bits of the old empire. Have a look who invented Posidriv and in what country, the answer surprises many. It wasn't GKN, nor in the UK. Philips in the USA. |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
In article , Doctor Drivel wrote:
"harry" wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 8:27 pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote: The head on pozidrive is quite easy to chew up too. When using quality screws and bits/screwdriver of the correct size, they do not chew up. but when someone has painted over the screw head, slotted screws can be cleaned out before undoing - not something that can be sone with either of the P types. -- From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.16 |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:42:32 +0000, Doctor Drivel wrote:
"harry" wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 8:27 pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote: The head on pozidrive is quite easy to chew up too. When using quality screws and bits/screwdriver of the correct size, they do not chew up. That's only because you hacksaw a slot in them so that you can use your blunt penknife. -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:30:14 +0000, Doctor Drivel wrote:
"The Other Mike" wrote in message ... On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 19:34:45 -0800 (PST), thirty-six wrote: On Dec 28, 1:51 am, "Rick Hughes" wrote: As to why we won;t go all Pozi ... simple, US uses choses not to use Pozi. GKN have the rights to it. ...in the UK and possibly in some bits of the old empire. Have a look who invented Posidriv and in what country, the answer surprises many. It wasn't GKN, nor in the UK. Philips in the USA. Phillips. -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
In message , Bob Eager
wrote On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:42:32 +0000, Doctor Drivel wrote: "harry" wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 8:27 pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote: The head on pozidrive is quite easy to chew up too. When using quality screws and bits/screwdriver of the correct size, they do not chew up. That's only because you hacksaw a slot in them so that you can use your blunt penknife. Sacrificial screwdriver method used here. Heat up the end of the screwdriver in a flame then apply to slot or crosshead and the paint burns out. -- Alan news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
In message , Brian Gaff
wrote I blame the screwdriver makers myself. I actually never saw a socket head or posi screw till I was at least 25.. The correct screwdriver for the slot used to help a lot though. Slotted screws are not easy to use when 'on site' you are using an electric screwdriver/drill to insert them. -- Alan news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On Dec 27, 10:45*pm, charles wrote:
In article , * *Gib Bogle wrote: On 28/12/2011 9:27 a.m., Lieutenant Scott wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. Builders in these parts seem to be adopting screws with a square hole (don't know what they're called). *They allow very high torque to be applied. Robertson - standard in Canada, I'm told. -- From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.16 I'm lead to believe that that type of screw head has been in use across the pond since well before the war. We had a set of dining table chairs that were pre-war according to the family source, that had screws like that. The age was backed up by the fact that they were glued with hide glue. I had to make up a tool to take the screws out when maintenance was called for. Rob |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On Dec 28, 9:56*am, charles wrote:
In article , Doctor Drivel wrote: "harry" wrote in message .... On Dec 27, 8:27 pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote: The head on pozidrive is quite easy to chew up too. When using quality screws and bits/screwdriver of the correct size, they do not chew up. but when someone has painted over the screw head, slotted screws can be cleaned out before undoing - not something that can be sone with either of the P types. Just use a pin to get most of it out in one lump. NT |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On 28/12/2011 09:56, charles wrote:
In , Doctor Drivel wrote: wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 8:27 pm, "Lieutenant wrote: The head on pozidrive is quite easy to chew up too. When using quality screws and bits/screwdriver of the correct size, they do not chew up. but when someone has painted over the screw head, slotted screws can be cleaned out before undoing - not something that can be sone with either of the P types. Screwdriver with a through tang, hammer - then impact driver. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
"Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:42:32 +0000, Doctor Drivel wrote: "harry" wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 8:27 pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote: The head on pozidrive is quite easy to chew up too. When using quality screws and bits/screwdriver of the correct size, they do not chew up. That's only because you hacksaw a slot in them so that you can use your blunt penknife. That's a frigging good idea. |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 23:39:29 -0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article op.v650f0lsytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidriv look cheap and nasty. I won't use them where they show. WTF? How do they look any cheaper than straight ones?!? If I want fancy screwheads, I buy brass ones. -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com I've got trouble with the wife again - she came into the bar looking for me and I asked for her number. |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 00:08:42 -0000, Graham. wrote:
On 27/12/2011 22:58, Lieutenant Scott wrote: On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 22:51:12 -0000, NT wrote: On Dec 27, 8:27 pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote: I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. looks like one day all prison officers will be Poles Steel poles? Concrete pillars? Or Polish? If so what flavour of polish? -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com What's the difference between PMS and Mad Cow Disease? The number of tits. |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 03:22:15 -0000, thirty-six wrote:
On Dec 27, 9:44 pm, Alan wrote: In message op.v650f0lsytk5n5@i7-940, Lieutenant Scott wrote I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. I was attempting to fit a couple of cheap "made in China" TV sockets today. In each socket, 4 screws in total and 3 different styles of cross heads. Designed by someone who has never had to fix 6/7mm coax cable to a wall socket. It's easier if you take the wall away. The original task may become easier, but now you have a wall replacement job. -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com What's the difference between PMS and Mad Cow Disease? The number of tits. |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On 28/12/2011 10:54, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 08:42:32 +0000, Doctor Drivel wrote: wrote in message ... On Dec 27, 8:27 pm, "Lieutenant wrote: The head on pozidrive is quite easy to chew up too. When using quality screws and bits/screwdriver of the correct size, they do not chew up. That's only because you hacksaw a slot in them so that you can use your blunt penknife. Alas many modern screws are case hardened, and so damn hard to cut a slot in... (small abrasive wheel in a dremmel style tool will do it though) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:15:23 -0000, Mike Barnes wrote:
Lieutenant Scott : I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Screws on electrical terminals generally have slotted heads. Perhaps someone can explain why. Similarly they generally have very fine threads - I don't know whether there's a connection g. The fine threads I can understand - they move slower per turn, so presumably make a better contact. But this has nothing to do with the shape of the head. I'd much prefer not to have my screwdriver slip off the screw and onto a live wire.... -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com Whats the fastest thing in Wales? A virgin sheep. |
Why aren't all screws pozidrive?
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 01:51:42 -0000, Rick Hughes wrote:
"Lieutenant Scott" wrote in message news:op.v650f0lsytk5n5@i7-940... I go out of my way to get pozidrive screws - what's the big idea with people still using straight ones? Eg in sockets. Pozidrive selfcentres, and doesn't slip out. And I find it's less likely to burr. Yes torx would be even better, but pozidrive is a start. Even more annoying ius when they are cross haed of inderterminate type ... no extra x so they they be phillips ... yet angle is wrong and Phillipos drivers simply cam out. I just look at the angle of the screw and select the correct driver. You need good eyesight like me though. As to why we won;t go all Pozi ... simple, US uses choses not to use Pozi. I look forward to them becoming a third world country. -- http://petersparrots.com http://petersphotos.com If you are going to try cross-country skiing, start with a small country. |
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