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Any thoughts on the above?
Seems like a good idea & cheap enough for a punt. Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings up? http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message ... Any thoughts on the above? Seems like a good idea & cheap enough for a punt. Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings up? http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk There are lots of 'not currently a member' entries and no members!!!! AWEM |
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On 01/10/2011 15:11, The Medway Handyman wrote:
Any thoughts on the above? Seems like a good idea & cheap enough for a punt. Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings up? http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php You are on it 'Not currently a member'. |
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On 01/10/2011 15:14, Andrew Mawson wrote:
"The Medway wrote in message ... Any thoughts on the above? Seems like a good idea& cheap enough for a punt. Anyone care to try the postcode search& see if you know whoever it brings up? http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk There are lots of 'not currently a member' entries and no members!!!! AWEM It doesn't launch until 15th October - its a new service. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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writes Any thoughts on the above? Seems like a good idea & cheap enough for a punt. Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings up? http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php Think your Trading Standards Fair Trader accredited banner is of more value but another crest on the website wouldn't do any harm. -- fred FIVE TV's superbright logo - not the DOG's, it's ******** |
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On 01/10/2011 15:29, Part Timer wrote:
On 01/10/2011 15:11, The Medway Handyman wrote: Any thoughts on the above? Seems like a good idea & cheap enough for a punt. Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings up? http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php You are on it 'Not currently a member'. Yes I know, I registered for free. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings
up? The catchment area is ridiculously wide: well over forty miles, in my case. And not one of the several excellent (very) local men and firms came up. The postcode search includes a lot of names marked as "not currently a member" which rather makes one wonder about the criteria for getting listed. Bert |
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Tim Streater wrote:
In article , The Medway Handyman wrote: Any thoughts on the above? Seems like a good idea & cheap enough for a punt. Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings up? http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php Well, I read it as The UK Hand of Guiltymen to start with, and then the UK Guilt of Handymen. What have you been up to, Our Dave? Knicker drawer? -- Adam |
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Tim Streater wrote:
In article , The Medway Handyman wrote: On 01/10/2011 15:29, Part Timer wrote: On 01/10/2011 15:11, The Medway Handyman wrote: Any thoughts on the above? Seems like a good idea & cheap enough for a punt. Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings up? http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php You are on it 'Not currently a member'. Yes I know, I registered for free. Too many currents - are they baking a cake? Not currantly, no.... |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Tim Streater wrote: In article , The Medway Handyman wrote: On 01/10/2011 15:29, Part Timer wrote: On 01/10/2011 15:11, The Medway Handyman wrote: Any thoughts on the above? Seems like a good idea & cheap enough for a punt. Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings up? http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php You are on it 'Not currently a member'. Yes I know, I registered for free. Too many currents - are they baking a cake? Not currantly, no.... ...but they might be building a grid..:-) |
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On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 15:30:38 +0100, The Medway Handyman
wrote: On 01/10/2011 15:14, Andrew Mawson wrote: "The Medway wrote in message ... Any thoughts on the above? Seems like a good idea& cheap enough for a punt. Anyone care to try the postcode search& see if you know whoever it brings up? http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk There are lots of 'not currently a member' entries and no members!!!! AWEM It doesn't launch until 15th October - its a new service. It sounds to me like it might become another of these organisations that pressurise the government into restricting d-i-y. Remember gas; electricity... -- Frank Erskine |
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On 01/10/2011 15:11, The Medway Handyman wrote:
Any thoughts on the above? Seems like a good idea & cheap enough for a punt. Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings up? http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php In my case, it only came up with one member - and he was about 20 miles away. It found a couple of dozen who are "not currently a member" within a 35 mile radius - but *not* a bloke who is virtually on the doorstep. The criteria for joining seem a bit dubious - including an on-line competence test. I suppose you might demonstrate your rank *incompetence* via an on-line (presumably multiple choice) test - but how the hell do you demonstrate your *competence* in things practical that way? Ok, you also need a couple of positive customer reviews - but I'm sure that even the BBC's Rogue Traders would have no problem in forging those! I suppose if it catches on, you may have to become a member - and presumably pay a fee - in order to get any work. But I suspect that it's just a licence to print money for whoever dreamt up the idea - and not worth a lot to the consumer. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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On 01/10/2011 18:18, Roger Mills wrote:
...But I suspect that it's just a licence to print money for whoever dreamt up the idea - and not worth a lot to the consumer. My view of most of these schemes, having been invited to join more than one, usually for no good reason. Colin Bignell |
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On 10/1/2011 1:18 PM, Roger Mills wrote:
On 01/10/2011 15:11, The Medway Handyman wrote: Any thoughts on the above? Seems like a good idea & cheap enough for a punt. Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings up? http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php In my case, it only came up with one member - and he was about 20 miles away. It found a couple of dozen who are "not currently a member" within a 35 mile radius - but *not* a bloke who is virtually on the doorstep. The criteria for joining seem a bit dubious - including an on-line competence test. I suppose you might demonstrate your rank *incompetence* via an on-line (presumably multiple choice) test - but how the hell do you demonstrate your *competence* in things practical that way? Ok, you also need a couple of positive customer reviews - but I'm sure that even the BBC's Rogue Traders would have no problem in forging those! I suppose if it catches on, you may have to become a member - and presumably pay a fee - in order to get any work. But I suspect that it's just a licence to print money for whoever dreamt up the idea - and not worth a lot to the consumer. Not a single entry for my postcode. |
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Roger Mills wrote:
On 01/10/2011 15:11, The Medway Handyman wrote: http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php I suspect that it's just a licence to print money for whoever dreamt up the idea For my postcode it didn't bring up any names that I recognise from local rags etc, but it did bring up a non-local handyman whose address was coincidentally the same as the address of the guild! |
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In message , Andy
Burns wrote Roger Mills wrote: On 01/10/2011 15:11, The Medway Handyman wrote: http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php I suspect that it's just a licence to print money for whoever dreamt up the idea For my postcode it didn't bring up any names that I recognise from local rags etc, but it did bring up a non-local handyman whose address was coincidentally the same as the address of the guild! My search came with non-members in Sheerness, Gillingham, Chatham and Rochester. They are all around 10 to 15 miles away from S.E. Essex (but not by road). -- Alan news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 01/10/11 15:11, The Medway Handyman wrote:
Any thoughts on the above? Seems like a good idea & cheap enough for a punt. Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings up? http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php Searching WC1 20 listed, all "not currently a member", only three are really local, none I have ever heard of, none I would consider using. -- djc |
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On 01/10/2011 15:11, The Medway Handyman wrote:
Any thoughts on the above? Seems like a good idea & cheap enough for a punt. Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings up? http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php _loads_ of entries around here. Not surprisingly no-one I know (presumably if I used such services much I wouldn't be here). I did find these two an amusing mix though: Awesome Africa Handyman AllWhite Handyman Service Andy |
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On Sat, 1 Oct 2011 15:42:45 +0100, Bert Coules wrote:
The catchment area is ridiculously wide: well over forty miles, in my case. One of my hits was 46 miles away, the nearest 20... The postcode search includes a lot of names marked as "not currently a member" which rather makes one wonder about the criteria for getting listed. All of my results were for non-members. All had some version of "handyman" so I suspect they may have trawled other online sources for name etc. -- Cheers Dave. |
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Andy Champ writes: _loads_ of entries around here. Not surprisingly no-one I know (presumably if I used such services much I wouldn't be here). I did find these two an amusing mix though: Awesome Africa Handyman AllWhite Handyman Service Probably the same person ;-) -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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The Medway Handyman wrote: Any thoughts on the above? Seems like a good idea & cheap enough for a punt. Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings up? http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php Brought up loads but non local (11-50 miles away). None were members. -- B Thumbs Change lycos to yahoo to reply |
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In article ,
Andy Champ wrote: _loads_ of entries around here. Not surprisingly no-one I know (presumably if I used such services much I wouldn't be here). I did find these two an amusing mix though: Awesome Africa Handyman AllWhite Handyman Service He's got a 9" angle grinder and he's not afraid to use it ... Nick -- Serendipity: http://www.leverton.org/blosxom (last update 29th March 2010) "The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life" -- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996 |
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On 01/10/2011 18:18, Roger Mills wrote:
On 01/10/2011 15:11, The Medway Handyman wrote: Any thoughts on the above? Seems like a good idea & cheap enough for a punt. Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings up? http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php In my case, it only came up with one member - and he was about 20 miles away. It found a couple of dozen who are "not currently a member" within a 35 mile radius - but *not* a bloke who is virtually on the doorstep. The criteria for joining seem a bit dubious - including an on-line competence test. I suppose you might demonstrate your rank *incompetence* via an on-line (presumably multiple choice) test - but how the hell do you demonstrate your *competence* in things practical that way? There was a multiple choice test, not especially difficult at all. Some of the questions were a bit vague and you had 15 mins to answer IIRC. Plenty of time to Google for the odd answer. I hit 90% in 4 mins, but as I said, some of the answers were vague. Ok, you also need a couple of positive customer reviews - but I'm sure that even the BBC's Rogue Traders would have no problem in forging those! TBH I could find dozens of positive reviews in 5 minutes. I'm hardly likely to offer any negative reviews an I? I suppose if it catches on, you may have to become a member - and presumably pay a fee - in order to get any work. But I suspect that it's just a licence to print money for whoever dreamt up the idea - and not worth a lot to the consumer. True, but at £22:50 a year its very cheap advertising. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 01/10/2011 23:33, Nick Leverton wrote:
In et.uk, Andy wrote: _loads_ of entries around here. Not surprisingly no-one I know (presumably if I used such services much I wouldn't be here). I did find these two an amusing mix though: Awesome Africa Handyman AllWhite Handyman Service He's got a 9" angle grinder and he's not afraid to use it ... Nick 4" probably |
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On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 00:30:51 +0100, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 01/10/2011 18:18, Roger Mills wrote: On 01/10/2011 15:11, The Medway Handyman wrote: Any thoughts on the above? Seems like a good idea & cheap enough for a punt. Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings up? http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php I got four hits, all non members, two were 10 miles away, and two were upto 60-70 miles away. snip I suppose if it catches on, you may have to become a member - and presumably pay a fee - in order to get any work. But I suspect that it's just a licence to print money for whoever dreamt up the idea My thoughts exactly. True, but at £22:50 a year its very cheap advertising. That ultimately depends on the integrity of the web site. If it acquires a bad reputation, you will tend to be tarred with the same brush. I'd put it on the back burner for a 12 month, see how active it is then. -- The Wanderer Caffeine isn't addictive as long as you keep taking it. |
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On 02/10/2011 00:30, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 01/10/2011 18:18, Roger Mills wrote: On 01/10/2011 15:11, The Medway Handyman wrote: Any thoughts on the above? Seems like a good idea & cheap enough for a punt. Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings up? http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php In my case, it only came up with one member - and he was about 20 miles away. It found a couple of dozen who are "not currently a member" within a 35 mile radius - but *not* a bloke who is virtually on the doorstep. The criteria for joining seem a bit dubious - including an on-line competence test. I suppose you might demonstrate your rank *incompetence* via an on-line (presumably multiple choice) test - but how the hell do you demonstrate your *competence* in things practical that way? There was a multiple choice test, not especially difficult at all. Some of the questions were a bit vague and you had 15 mins to answer IIRC. Plenty of time to Google for the odd answer. I hit 90% in 4 mins, but as I said, some of the answers were vague. Ok, you also need a couple of positive customer reviews - but I'm sure that even the BBC's Rogue Traders would have no problem in forging those! TBH I could find dozens of positive reviews in 5 minutes. I'm hardly likely to offer any negative reviews an I? I'm sure you could - and genuine ones at that. But the point I was making that even if you were totally useless and/or a complete rogue, it wouldn't be difficult to conjure up a few positive references. I suppose if it catches on, you may have to become a member - and presumably pay a fee - in order to get any work. But I suspect that it's just a licence to print money for whoever dreamt up the idea - and not worth a lot to the consumer. True, but at £22:50 a year its very cheap advertising. Still a nice little earner for the site owner. Get your customers to recommend you on Which? Local - that's free! -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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On 01/10/2011 15:11 The Medway Handyman wrote:
Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings up? I'm in the north-west of Leeds. Nearest was 2 miles, furthest 33 miles, none of them members and never heard of any of them. -- F |
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On 01/10/2011 21:16, Alan wrote:
In message , Andy Burns wrote Roger Mills wrote: On 01/10/2011 15:11, The Medway Handyman wrote: http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php I suspect that it's just a licence to print money for whoever dreamt up the idea For my postcode it didn't bring up any names that I recognise from local rags etc, but it did bring up a non-local handyman whose address was coincidentally the same as the address of the guild! My search came with non-members in Sheerness, Gillingham, Chatham and Rochester. They are all around 10 to 15 miles away from S.E. Essex (but not by road). When I searched for my postcode I got people in Tlbury & Grays in positions 6 & 8. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 17:57:13 +0100, Frank Erskine
wrote: It doesn't launch until 15th October - its a new service. It sounds to me like it might become another of these organisations that pressurise the government into restricting d-i-y. Remember gas; electricity... Nah, it's more like one of those organisations that springs unbidden into being, to make someone a buck or two. Just like the Guild of Master Craftsment. |
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On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 21:25:54 +0100, Andy Champ
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On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 23:31:59 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 17:57:13 +0100, Frank Erskine wrote: It doesn't launch until 15th October - its a new service. It sounds to me like it might become another of these organisations that pressurise the government into restricting d-i-y. Remember gas; electricity... Nah, it's more like one of those organisations that springs unbidden into being, to make someone a buck or two. Just like the Guild of Master Craftsment. Actually it sounds extremely complicated. The term "handyman" is so wide-ranging that you'll have to have Boy-Scout type badges for numerous different skills. Just because somebody is "competent" (and how do you define that?) in, say, wallpapering, doesn't mean that they have a clue about laying decking (yuk!) or changing a light switch. UNLESS the idea of this 'guild' is purely from a point of view of business ethics, such as completing a job before accepting any payment, giving a proper quotation for a job rather than just an estimate, and so on. -- Frank Erskine |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message ... Any thoughts on the above? Seems like a good idea & cheap enough for a punt. Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings up? http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk The only member to come up just happened to have the same postal address as the Guild itself! Lawrence |
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On Oct 1, 3:41*pm, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , *The Medway Handyman wrote: Any thoughts on the above? Seems like a good idea & cheap enough for a punt. Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings up? http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php Well, I read it as The UK Hand of Guiltymen to start with, and then the UK Guilt of Handymen. What have you been up to, Our Dave? Harrassing cyclists. MBQ |
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On 1 Oct, 15:11, The Medway Handyman
wrote: Any thoughts on the above? Seems like a good idea & cheap enough for a punt. Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings up? http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk FWIIW, I find that there is an inverse relationship to the number of such free or low price logos (i.e. purchasing "respectability") and the quality of the person on site The MH whose posts indicate that he is well above average in quality and experience surprises me with even considering such a punt. You are far better than that. Let your work speak for yourself. Chris |
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On 02/10/2011 13:42, F wrote:
On 01/10/2011 15:11 The Medway Handyman wrote: Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings up? I'm in the north-west of Leeds. Nearest was 2 miles, furthest 33 miles, none of them members and never heard of any of them. I am in Keighley and probably got much the same selection of 20 but my closest are 2 in Bradford at 8 miles with the nearest Leeds one at 10. Furthest away was one in Manchester at 30 miles (as the crow flies but considerably more by the fastest route). I wonder how much his call-out fee would be. Oh well. Since I had the stone roof on my barn turned back in 1981 I have only needed the services of a builder twice so I don't suppose I will ever need to employ a handyman. -- Roger Chapman |
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On 01/10/2011 15:11, The Medway Handyman wrote:
Any thoughts on the above? Seems like a good idea & cheap enough for a punt. Anyone care to try the postcode search & see if you know whoever it brings up? http://www.guildofhandymen.co.uk/index.php http://www.housemartinservices.com is a valid member, but then he has the same postal address as the Guild. The Guild web site says nothing about the structure of the organisation or who runs it. Looks suspiciously like an organisation run by one bloke - that's enough to ring the alarm bells for me, as a consumer. Biggles |
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