I've just received an order for 3000 nails for a nail gun that I
intend to use for a closeboard fence. I ordered galvanised nails and
expected them to have the familiar rough grey coating. But the one
that turned up have a gold looking finish that's much smoother than
the galvanised finish that I would expect. I've put one of the nails
in a shallow tray of water to see if it rusts - nothing yet!

My question to the floor: Are these really galvanised? Is this a new
technology that I'm not familiar with?

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Bodgit writes
I've just received an order for 3000 nails for a nail gun that I
intend to use for a closeboard fence. I ordered galvanised nails and
expected them to have the familiar rough grey coating. But the one
that turned up have a gold looking finish that's much smoother than
the galvanised finish that I would expect. I've put one of the nails
in a shallow tray of water to see if it rusts - nothing yet!

My question to the floor: Are these really galvanised? Is this a new
technology that I'm not familiar with?

BOP (bright zinc) nuts and bolts are shiny (presumably electro-plated,
and not dipped). Dun about the gold coloured nails, though. Maybe
they're gold plated!
--
Ian

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In message
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Bodgit writes
I've just received an order for 3000 nails for a nail gun that I
intend to use for a closeboard fence. I ordered galvanised nails and
expected them to have the familiar rough grey coating. But the one
that turned up have a gold looking finish that's much smoother than
the galvanised finish that I would expect. I've put one of the nails
in a shallow tray of water to see if it rusts - nothing yet!

My question to the floor: Are these really galvanised? Is this a new
technology that I'm not familiar with?

BOP (bright zinc) nuts and bolts are shiny (presumably electro-plated,
and not dipped). Dun about the gold coloured nails, though. Maybe
they're gold plated!

When I posted it, that definitely said "BZP (bright zinc passivated)
nuts and bolts....". Beaten again by the spell checker, it seems!
--
Ian

On Apr 22, 8:27*pm, Bodgit wrote:
I've just received an order for 3000 nails for a nail gun that I
intend to use for a closeboard fence. I ordered galvanised nails and
expected them to have the familiar rough grey coating. But the one
that turned up have a gold looking finish that's much smoother than
the galvanised finish that I would expect. I've put one of the nails
in a shallow tray of water to see if it rusts - nothing yet!

My question to the floor: Are these really galvanised? Is this a new
technology that I'm not familiar with?

Passivated BZP. Pretty standard for nail-guns (and common for screws
as well).

I doubt it's as corrosion resistant as a dipped galvanised finish (but
I might be wrong) but maybe all that soft zinc would end up jamming up
a nailgun.

Bolted wrote in news:4ff75863-71a4-4f7d-9cba-
:


Passivated BZP. Pretty standard for nail-guns (and common for screws
as well).

Today I took out a shed load of BZP screws I used to put up a fence about 4
years ago, sheltered damp area of the garden - no sun. There's a little
surface rusting on most but they all came out easily enough ... and went
back in again when I re-positioned the fence. No sign that any had any
thread damage whatsoever and none failed (snapped etc).

Glad I used screws now instead of nails.

--

All the best,

Chris

On Apr 22, 8:59*pm, Bolted wrote:
On Apr 22, 8:27*pm, Bodgit wrote:

I've just received an order for 3000 nails for a nail gun that I
intend to use for a closeboard fence. I ordered galvanised nails and
expected them to have the familiar rough grey coating. But the one
that turned up have a gold looking finish that's much smoother than
the galvanised finish that I would expect. I've put one of the nails
in a shallow tray of water to see if it rusts - nothing yet!

My question to the floor: Are these really galvanised? Is this a new
technology that I'm not familiar with?

Passivated BZP. *Pretty standard for nail-guns (and common for screws
as well).

I doubt it's as corrosion resistant as a dipped galvanised finish (but
I might be wrong) but maybe all that soft zinc would end up jamming up
a nailgun.

The reason I question is is because I was "browsing" in a BM yesterday
(when the order came), and saw some proper galvanised nails (genuine
Paslode brand so cost a fortune).

I'm just surprised that someone can sell something as "galvanised"
when they're not!

Bolted wrote in news:4ff75863-71a4-4f7d-9cba-
:


Passivated BZP. Pretty standard for nail-guns (and common for screws
as well).

Today I took out a shed load of BZP screws I used to put up a fence about 4
years ago, sheltered damp area of the garden - no sun. There's a little
surface rusting on most but they all came out easily enough ... and went
back in again when I re-positioned the fence. No sign that any had any
thread damage whatsoever and none failed (snapped etc).

Glad I used screws now instead of nails.

--

All the best,

Chris

On Apr 22, 9:26*pm, Bodgit wrote:
On Apr 22, 8:59*pm, Bolted wrote:









On Apr 22, 8:27*pm, Bodgit wrote:

I've just received an order for 3000 nails for a nail gun that I
intend to use for a closeboard fence. I ordered galvanised nails and
expected them to have the familiar rough grey coating. But the one
that turned up have a gold looking finish that's much smoother than
the galvanised finish that I would expect. I've put one of the nails
in a shallow tray of water to see if it rusts - nothing yet!

My question to the floor: Are these really galvanised? Is this a new
technology that I'm not familiar with?

Passivated BZP. *Pretty standard for nail-guns (and common for screws
as well).

I doubt it's as corrosion resistant as a dipped galvanised finish (but
I might be wrong) but maybe all that soft zinc would end up jamming up
a nailgun.

The reason I question is is because I was "browsing" in a BM yesterday
(when the order came), and saw some proper galvanised nails (genuine
Paslode brand so cost a fortune).

I'm just surprised that someone can sell something as "galvanised"
when they're not!

Fair enough. Paslode like jamming anyway, I hear (no experience, just
hearsay, I use air).

I think you'd be within your rights to send them back if they were
described as galvanised rather than BZP, if you can be bothered. But
the reason they were cheaper than the real thing was, as usual, that
some quality was removed to reduce the price, so you takes your choice
as ever.

On 4/23/2011 8:26 AM, Bodgit wrote:

The reason I question is is because I was "browsing" in a BM yesterday
(when the order came), and saw some proper galvanised nails (genuine
Paslode brand so cost a fortune).

I'm just surprised that someone can sell something as "galvanised"
when they're not!

Hot dip nails (etc.) are sold as "galvanised" when they are not.

On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:26:46 -0700 (PDT), Bodgit
wrote:

On Apr 22, 8:59*pm, Bolted wrote:
On Apr 22, 8:27*pm, Bodgit wrote:

I've just received an order for 3000 nails for a nail gun that I
intend to use for a closeboard fence. I ordered galvanised nails and
expected them to have the familiar rough grey coating. But the one
that turned up have a gold looking finish that's much smoother than
the galvanised finish that I would expect. I've put one of the nails
in a shallow tray of water to see if it rusts - nothing yet!

My question to the floor: Are these really galvanised? Is this a new
technology that I'm not familiar with?

Passivated BZP. *Pretty standard for nail-guns (and common for screws
as well).

I doubt it's as corrosion resistant as a dipped galvanised finish (but
I might be wrong) but maybe all that soft zinc would end up jamming up
a nailgun.

The reason I question is is because I was "browsing" in a BM yesterday
(when the order came), and saw some proper galvanised nails (genuine
Paslode brand so cost a fortune).

I'm just surprised that someone can sell something as "galvanised"
when they're not!

The expensive Paslode nails that are galvanised (Galv plus) actually
look more like BZP passivated ones than traditional hot dipped nails
do. The last lot I bought for a relatives fence were, last I saw,
holding up well after about 5 years exposure.

On Apr 22, 8:27*pm, Bodgit wrote:
I've just received an order for 3000 nails for a nail gun that I
intend to use for a closeboard fence. I ordered galvanised nails and
expected them to have the familiar rough grey coating. But the one
that turned up have a gold looking finish that's much smoother than
the galvanised finish that I would expect. I've put one of the nails
in a shallow tray of water to see if it rusts - nothing yet!

My question to the floor: Are these really galvanised? Is this a new
technology that I'm not familiar with?

Yes, they are galvanised. (Electrolytic process)
They are not suitable for outdoors, you need either stainless steel or
hot dipped (grey) ones for that.

All the shiny finish ones are intended for indoors.

On 22/04/2011 20:27, Bodgit wrote:
I've just received an order for 3000 nails for a nail gun that I
intend to use for a closeboard fence. I ordered galvanised nails and
expected them to have the familiar rough grey coating. But the one
that turned up have a gold looking finish that's much smoother than
the galvanised finish that I would expect. I've put one of the nails
in a shallow tray of water to see if it rusts - nothing yet!

My question to the floor: Are these really galvanised? Is this a new
technology that I'm not familiar with?

That is zinc plating with chromate passivation. It is slighly cheaper
than zinc plating with clear passivation, which you wouldn't notice.

Colin Bignell

On Apr 22, 8:27*pm, Bodgit wrote:

My question to the floor: Are these really galvanised? Is this a new
technology that I'm not familiar with?

IMHE, there is no credible nail gun that uses credibly galvanised
nails. This is a problem with the use of nail guns for chunky work.

Good galvanising on nails is a hot dip that comes out thick & rough.
They don't rust, they don't work loose. OTOH, they don't feed easily
through nail guns either. So all the nail gun nails I've seen have
been some sort of basket electrogalvanise that is smooth and slippery,
but also thin.

My "nail gun" is a thirty quid Vaughan framing hammer. It's lighter to
carry and is sinks nails with one hit. People carrying 300 quid
nailguns also exclaim surprise that I spent a whole thirty quid on a
mere hammer. Mind you, add a lanyard to it.