It's saying on some websites that the juice from carrots may be of help with
Eye Cataracts.

Argos catalogue has two reasonable priced ones of page 699. One is £19.99
and the other is £29.99.

Would anyone have experience of using these particular juicers and would
recommend one for using with carrots. Since someone said that carrots are
among the more difficult things to juice satifactorarily.

john morgan wrote:
It's saying on some websites that the juice from carrots may be of help with
Eye Cataracts.

It's saying on some websites that Jesus is coming to a a supermarket
near you, as well.

Argos catalogue has two reasonable priced ones of page 699. One is �19.99
and the other is �29.99.

Would anyone have experience of using these particular juicers and would
recommend one for using with carrots. Since someone said that carrots are
among the more difficult things to juice satifactorarily.


shrug no idea what ours is, but it mashes most things with violent
rapidity.

However most of the guff talked about carrots is exactly that. Guff.

On Mar 13, 5:26 pm, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
john morgan wrote:
It's saying on some websites that the juice from carrots may be of help with
Eye Cataracts.

It's saying on some websites that Jesus is coming to a a supermarket
near you, as well.

Argos catalogue has two reasonable priced ones of page 699. One is 19.99
and the other is 29.99.

Would anyone have experience of using these particular juicers and would
recommend one for using with carrots. Since someone said that carrots are
among the more difficult things to juice satifactorarily.

shrug no idea what ours is, but it mashes most things with violent
rapidity.

However most of the guff talked about carrots is exactly that. Guff.

typical trademark Natny Pee response ;)

Jim K

On Mar 13, 5:23*pm, "john morgan" wrote:
It's saying on some websites that the juice from carrots may be of help with
Eye Cataracts.

Argos catalogue has two reasonable priced ones of page 699. *One is 19.99
and the other is 29.99.

Would anyone have experience of using these particular juicers and would
recommend one for using with carrots. *Since someone said that carrots are
among the more difficult things to juice satifactorarily.

The carrots myth was deliberate disinformation released during WW2.
It was intended to hide from the Krauts the fact that that all their
messages to Uboats were being decoded with the Bombe and Colossus
machines at Bletchley Park.
The lie was that a diet of carrots enabled the Coastal Command air
crews to see in the dark.

Seventy years on, the myth still lives! Heh Heh! To the gullible
anyway.

In message on Sun, 13 Mar 2011
17:23:07 -0000
john morgan wrote:

It's saying on some websites that the juice from carrots may be of help with
Eye Cataracts.


You can find lots of other jokes on websites too! What are you supposed to do
with it, bath in it?

Stop reading rubbish, go to your GP and get him/her to refer you to a
consultant.

If you are worried about the op - particularly if you are thinking of someone
who had it many years ago - stop worrying and start looking forward to it!

Local anaesthetic, takes less than half an hour. The cartaract is broken up
with ultrasound and removed. A new plastic lens is slipped in to replace the
old one and you end up with perfect distance vision - even if you needed
glasses before.

I had the first one done about 3 years ago, just as the second one was starting
to develop - and I couldn't wait to have that one done too!

After wearing glassses from the age of 14, I no longer need them at all for
distance vision at the age of 66. However, I still need them for reading but
because I'd been wearing bifocals for twenty years, I never had my reading
glasses to hand when I needed them!

So I'm now wearin varifocals because having the the intermediate strength is
ideal for the PC.

--

Terry

john morgan wrote:
It's saying on some websites that the juice from carrots may be of
help with Eye Cataracts.

It's amazing what you can find on the web...


Argos catalogue has two reasonable priced ones of page 699. One is
£19.99 and the other is £29.99.

Would anyone have experience of using these particular juicers and
would recommend one for using with carrots. Since someone said that
carrots are among the more difficult things to juice satifactorarily.

Unless you just happen to like carrot juice, why not look and see if you
can find a *single* controlled trial of carrot juice for the treatment and
prevention of cataracts.

Tim

In message , john morgan
writes
It's saying on some websites that the juice from carrots may be of help with
Eye Cataracts.

Argos catalogue has two reasonable priced ones of page 699. One is £19.99
and the other is £29.99.

Would anyone have experience of using these particular juicers and would
recommend one for using with carrots. Since someone said that carrots are
among the more difficult things to juice satifactorarily.



Paging Bugs Bunny

--
geoff

Terry Casey ) wibbled on Sunday 13 March 2011 18:14:


Local anaesthetic, takes less than half an hour. The cartaract is broken
up with ultrasound and removed. A new plastic lens is slipped in to
replace the old one and you end up with perfect distance vision - even if
you needed glasses before.

How do you keep still with pointy tools coming towards your eyes - even if
anaesthatised? Always wondered that.


--
Tim Watts

"harry" wrote in message ...
On Mar 13, 5:23 pm, "john morgan" wrote:
It's saying on some websites that the juice from carrots may be of help with
Eye Cataracts.

Argos catalogue has two reasonable priced ones of page 699. One is 19.99
and the other is 29.99.

Would anyone have experience of using these particular juicers and would
recommend one for using with carrots. Since someone said that carrots are
among the more difficult things to juice satifactorarily.

The carrots myth was deliberate disinformation released during WW2.
It was intended to hide from the Krauts the fact that that all their
messages to Uboats were being decoded with the Bombe and Colossus
machines at Bletchley Park.
The lie was that a diet of carrots enabled the Coastal Command air
crews to see in the dark.

Seventy years on, the myth still lives! Heh Heh! To the gullible
anyway.



The version I grew up with was the myth was promulgated to cover up the fact
that our air crews had magnetron powered radar sets.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

In article ,
john morgan wrote:
It's saying on some websites that the juice from carrots may be of help with
Eye Cataracts.

Argos catalogue has two reasonable priced ones of page 699. One is £19.99
and the other is £29.99.

Would anyone have experience of using these particular juicers and would
recommend one for using with carrots. Since someone said that carrots are
among the more difficult things to juice satifactorarily.

We have one of these:

http://www.matstonejuicer.biz/

and the pulp that comes out is quite dry - it makes really nice juice out
of anything vaguely moist... (apple and carrot is qute nice) However
you do have to chop the fruit, veg, etc. into small pieces before it
will go through and there's always the cleaning afterwards...

And while not quite industrial quality, it did take most of a tree of
bramleys last year, giving us nearly 20 litres of apple juice - and only
overheated twice... (and took 2 of us the best part of a day)

As for the eyes... dunno - I'd see a doctor if they were mine!

Gordon

In message
,
harry writes
On Mar 13, 5:23*pm, "john morgan" wrote:
It's saying on some websites that the juice from carrots may be of help with
Eye Cataracts.

Argos catalogue has two reasonable priced ones of page 699. *One is 19.99
and the other is 29.99.

Would anyone have experience of using these particular juicers and would
recommend one for using with carrots. *Since someone said that carrots are
among the more difficult things to juice satifactorarily.

The carrots myth was deliberate disinformation released during WW2.
It was intended to hide from the Krauts the fact that that all their
messages to Uboats were being decoded with the Bombe and Colossus
machines at Bletchley Park.
The lie was that a diet of carrots enabled the Coastal Command air
crews to see in the dark.

Seventy years on, the myth still lives! Heh Heh! To the gullible
anyway.

I thought it was to disguise the fact that we had airborne radar (Gee?).
--
Ian

On Mar 13, 8:05*pm, Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message
,
harry writes





On Mar 13, 5:23 pm, "john *morgan" wrote:
It's saying on some websites that the juice from carrots may be of help with
Eye Cataracts.

Argos catalogue has two reasonable priced ones of page 699. One is 19.99
and the other is 29.99.

Would anyone have experience of using these particular juicers and would
recommend one for using with carrots. Since someone said that carrots are
among the more difficult things to juice satifactorarily.

The carrots myth was deliberate disinformation released during WW2.
It was intended to hide from the Krauts the fact that that all their
messages to Uboats were being decoded with the Bombe and Colossus
machines at Bletchley Park.
The lie was that a diet of carrots enabled the Coastal Command air
crews to see in the dark.

Seventy years on, the myth still lives! *Heh Heh! *To the gullible
anyway.

I thought it was to disguise the fact that we had airborne radar (Gee?).
--
Ian- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

An alternative story I've heard was that there was a surplus of
carrots.

Chris

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 18:14:43 +0000, Terry Casey wrote:

If you are worried about the op - particularly if you are thinking of
someone who had it many years ago - stop worrying and start looking
forward to it!

Indeed. My 86 year old mother-in-law had both done (a few months apart,
with a hip replacement in between).

She said the only downside was finding out how dirty the kitchen floor
was, and having to clean it!



--
Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
http://www.mirrorservice.org

*lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor

On 13/03/2011 20:05, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message
,
harry writes
On Mar 13, 5:23 pm, "john morgan" wrote:
It's saying on some websites that the juice from carrots may be of
help with
Eye Cataracts.

Argos catalogue has two reasonable priced ones of page 699. One is
19.99
and the other is 29.99.

Would anyone have experience of using these particular juicers and would
recommend one for using with carrots. Since someone said that
carrots are
among the more difficult things to juice satifactorarily.

The carrots myth was deliberate disinformation released during WW2.
It was intended to hide from the Krauts the fact that that all their
messages to Uboats were being decoded with the Bombe and Colossus
machines at Bletchley Park.
The lie was that a diet of carrots enabled the Coastal Command air
crews to see in the dark.

Seventy years on, the myth still lives! Heh Heh! To the gullible
anyway.

I thought it was to disguise the fact that we had airborne radar (Gee?).

That is the version I have always heard, although one use of airborne
radar was to detect submarines on the surface at night.

BTW Gee was a navigation system.

Colin Bignell

In message , "Nightjar
\"cpb\"@" writes



BTW Gee was a navigation system.

Ah, yes. It was H2S, wasn't it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H2S_radar
--
Ian

On 13/03/2011 20:39, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , "Nightjar
\"cpb\"@" writes



BTW Gee was a navigation system.

Ah, yes. It was H2S, wasn't it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H2S_radar

There were quite a few different radar types during the war, often
changing as the technology improved. H2S was a ground mapping bombing
aid, while Night Fighters carried a short range air to air radar and
were talked to within their radar range by controllers using ground
based radar.

Colin Bignell

In article , star09555
@mail.invalid says...
It's saying on some websites that the juice from carrots may be of help with
Eye Cataracts.

It's also said, on some sites, that you get a better sound from your
digital equipment if you pay a grand for a cable.

Is there actually any reliable evidence?

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

harry wrote:
On Mar 13, 5:23 pm, "john morgan" wrote:
It's saying on some websites that the juice from carrots may be of help with
Eye Cataracts.

Argos catalogue has two reasonable priced ones of page 699. One is 19.99
and the other is 29.99.

Would anyone have experience of using these particular juicers and would
recommend one for using with carrots. Since someone said that carrots are
among the more difficult things to juice satifactorarily.

The carrots myth was deliberate disinformation released during WW2.
It was intended to hide from the Krauts the fact that that all their
messages to Uboats were being decoded with the Bombe and Colossus
machines at Bletchley Park.

Er no, it as to hide the fact that 'Cats eyes Cunningham' had a radar
equipped night fighter.

He is alleged to have quipped that he 'ate a lot of carrots'

It derives from the fact that whatever is in carrots, is also found in eyes.

The lie was that a diet of carrots enabled the Coastal Command air
crews to see in the dark.

Seventy years on, the myth still lives! Heh Heh! To the gullible
anyway.

On Mar 13, 5:37*pm, harry wrote:

The carrots myth was deliberate disinformation released during WW2.

Well you got half of that right

It was intended to hide from the Krauts the fact that that all their
messages to Uboats were being decoded with the Bombe and Colossus
machines at Bletchley Park.

Nothing to do with carrots. Nor did Colossus have anything to do with
decoding Enigma codes.

On Mar 13, 5:37 pm, harry wrote:

AOL? The old metrics are still the best.

In article , says...
Indeed. My 86 year old mother-in-law had both done (a few months apart,
with a hip replacement in between).

She said the only downside was finding out how dirty the kitchen floor
was, and having to clean it!


Exactly what my aunt said after her op at about the same age - "Why
didn't anyone tell me how dirty my house was?"

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

On Mar 13, 7:55*pm, "Graham." wrote:

The version I grew up with was the myth was promulgated to cover up the fact
that our air crews had magnetron powered radar sets.

Cavity magnetrons. Everyone had magnetrons (of simpler form).

The funny thing, (thanks to RV Jones' misinformation on TV), is that
so many Brits think the cavity magnetron was solely British. In fact,
everyone had cavity magnetrons too, except the Germans. The Czechs
probably invented them, the Russians developed them early on, the
Japanese had the best design (they solved two problems early on, one
of which eluded the British right through the war).

British nightfighters were never as effective as the Germans, because
their relative phases of the war were a couple of years apart - by
the time the technology was in place for really effective air
interception at night, there just weren't as many German bombers
attacking the West.

Owain wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:16 pm, wrote:
An alternative story I've heard was that there was a surplus of
carrots.

And not a lot else to eat.

Owain

Oh yes. Potatoes, Cabbage and Carrots.

And that's pretty much all there was till the mid 50's.

And SPAM. Lots of SPAM.

Tim Downie wrote:
john morgan wrote:
It's saying on some websites that the juice from carrots may be of
help with Eye Cataracts.

It's amazing what you can find on the web...


Argos catalogue has two reasonable priced ones of page 699. One is
£19.99 and the other is £29.99.

Would anyone have experience of using these particular juicers and
would recommend one for using with carrots. Since someone said that
carrots are among the more difficult things to juice satifactorarily.

Unless you just happen to like carrot juice, why not look and see if
you can find a *single* controlled trial of carrot juice for the
treatment and prevention of cataracts.


I seem to remember some hippy died of an overdose of carrot juice in the
60's

Tim

The Natural Philosopher ) wibbled on Sunday 13 March
2011 21:51:

harry wrote:
On Mar 13, 5:23 pm, "john morgan" wrote:
It's saying on some websites that the juice from carrots may be of help
with Eye Cataracts.

Argos catalogue has two reasonable priced ones of page 699. One is
19.99 and the other is 29.99.

Would anyone have experience of using these particular juicers and would
recommend one for using with carrots. Since someone said that carrots
are among the more difficult things to juice satifactorarily.

The carrots myth was deliberate disinformation released during WW2.
It was intended to hide from the Krauts the fact that that all their
messages to Uboats were being decoded with the Bombe and Colossus
machines at Bletchley Park.

Er no, it as to hide the fact that 'Cats eyes Cunningham' had a radar
equipped night fighter.

He is alleged to have quipped that he 'ate a lot of carrots'

It derives from the fact that whatever is in carrots, is also found in
eyes.

The lie was that a diet of carrots enabled the Coastal Command air
crews to see in the dark.

Seventy years on, the myth still lives! Heh Heh! To the gullible
anyway.

I thought it was due to the fact that carrots contain beta-carotene, which
is metabolised into vitamin A by the body.

Vitamin A deficiency has night blindness as one of its symptoms. At least
that's what we were taught in O-Level Biology - and Wikipedia seems to
concur:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_A_deficiency


Not that eating extra carrots will give you superman's eyes, but in WWII it
is quite possible some people were short of the correct balance of nutition.

I like the radar story - that could well have a convenient element of truth
too.

Besides, it got my kids eating carrots

--
Tim Watts

Skipweasel ) wibbled on Sunday 13 March 2011
21:53:

In article , says...
Indeed. My 86 year old mother-in-law had both done (a few months apart,
with a hip replacement in between).

She said the only downside was finding out how dirty the kitchen floor
was, and having to clean it!


Exactly what my aunt said after her op at about the same age - "Why
didn't anyone tell me how dirty my house was?"


Because, dear Aunt, you'd have whacked me in the Queensburys with your
handbag...

--
Tim Watts

On Mar 13, 9:50*pm, Skipweasel
wrote:
In article , star09555
@mail.invalid says...

It's saying on some websites that the juice from carrots may be of help with
Eye Cataracts.

It's also said, on some sites, that you get a better sound from your
digital equipment if you pay a grand for a cable.

Is there actually any reliable evidence?

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

This review says the cheapies are OK.

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/home-...-cables-a-scam

but they don't make such an impression on visitors.

rusty

In article 5dcd24d5-9bad-4191-8d67-76e3edafee64
@s18g2000vbe.googlegroups.com, says...
This review says the cheapies are OK.

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/home-...-cables-a-scam

but they don't make such an impression on visitors.


Hardly a surprise, was it? Monster Cable must be laughing all the way to
the bank, though, 'cos people still keep buying their junk.

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

John Rumm wrote in
o.uk:


The version I grew up with was the myth was promulgated to cover up
the fact that our air crews had magnetron powered radar sets.

Yup, I think that is closer to the truth - it was supposed to explain
why our pilots were so effective at finding incoming aircraft and hide
our progress on RADAR.

(whether this has anything to do with the role (if any) of carrots and
cataracts is another matter!)

Jimmy Rawnsley (scuse spelling I may be a little off) who was "Cats Eye"
Cunningham's radar operator/navigator throughout most of the war
specifically references that myth in his wartime biography of Wing
Commander Cunningham, "Night Fighter".

He also jokes about the vitamin pills they were issued, apparently most
aircrew saved them up for when they were going for a night out on the town
.... but nevertheless failed to have any appreciable effect if you know what
I mean. It's a bit like eating a plate of oysters before that "special
time", I've never known more than the first 7 to work ;-)

--

All the best,

Chris

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:26:40 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

john morgan wrote:
It's saying on some websites that the juice from carrots may be of help with
Eye Cataracts.

It's saying on some websites that Jesus is coming to a a supermarket
near you, as well.

Funny you should say that, Sainburys had them buy one get one free,
use by Friday 22nd April 2011

--

On Mar 13, 9:52*pm, Andy Dingley wrote:
On Mar 13, 5:37*pm, harry wrote:

The carrots myth was deliberate disinformation released during WW2.

Well you got half of that right

It was intended to hide from the Krauts the fact that that all their
messages to Uboats were being decoded with the Bombe and Colossus
machines at Bletchley Park.

Nothing to do with carrots. Nor did Colossus have anything to do with
decoding Enigma codes.

On Mar 13, 5:37 pm, harry wrote:

AOL? *The old metrics are still the best.

Who mentioned enigma? It was Lorenz.

In article c95667af-344e-46dc-b6d6-4e0d2f4c5ec7
@r17g2000vbc.googlegroups.com, says...
What does he say about putting pyrex bowls on the hob?


Ah, well, Pyrex isn't what it used to be since it got taken over. It's
now soda-lime glass, which is claimed to be as good, and in many cases
may be adequate - but borosilicate glass it ain't.

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember harry saying
something like:

On Mar 13, 9:52*pm, Andy Dingley wrote:
On Mar 13, 5:37*pm, harry wrote:

The carrots myth was deliberate disinformation released during WW2.

Well you got half of that right

It was intended to hide from the Krauts the fact that that all their
messages to Uboats were being decoded with the Bombe and Colossus
machines at Bletchley Park.

Nothing to do with carrots. Nor did Colossus have anything to do with
decoding Enigma codes.

On Mar 13, 5:37 pm, harry wrote:

AOL? *The old metrics are still the best.

Who mentioned enigma? It was Lorenz.

********, anyway.
The carrots rubbish was generated on behalf of the British nightfighter
pilots who were using a nifty on-board radar set the Jerries hadn't a
clue about.