Please take a look at my window handles:
http://www.littletyke.myzen.co.uk/handles/index.html

Are they interchangeable?

How do I remove them? I can see one screw. Is the other underneath
what looks like a covering cap? Is this simply prised up with a
thin-bladed screwdriver?

I assume I don't have to dismantle the whole window, but simply remove
the handles, then swap them over, yes?

Second question: Is there a reason why the main window handle in the
kitchen does NOT have a lock in the button? Is this a fire safety
consideration?

Thanks!

MM

On Mar 3, 12:14*pm, MM wrote:
Please take a look at my window handles:http://www.littletyke.myzen.co.uk/handles/index.html

Are they interchangeable?

yes

How do I remove them? I can see one screw. Is the other underneath
what looks like a covering cap? Is this simply prised up with a
thin-bladed screwdriver?

thats usually the way

I assume I don't have to dismantle the whole window, but simply remove
the handles, then swap them over, yes?

correct

Second question: Is there a reason why the main window handle in the
kitchen does NOT have a lock in the button? Is this a fire safety
consideration?

I dont know. Would you need to go through a room to escape otherwise?

Thanks!

MM


NT

On 03/03/2011 12:14 MM wrote:

Please take a look at my window handles:
http://www.littletyke.myzen.co.uk/handles/index.html

Are they interchangeable?

How do I remove them? I can see one screw. Is the other underneath
what looks like a covering cap? Is this simply prised up with a
thin-bladed screwdriver?

I assume I don't have to dismantle the whole window, but simply remove
the handles, then swap them over, yes?

I got a replacement for our 15 year old windows from the guy who
supplied and fitted a couple of PVCu doors for us a couple of months
ago. Nothing special, he just pulled one out of his regular supply.

Just flip off the plastic cap, undo the screw from underneath along with
the other, already visible, one, pull the old handle off and fit the new
one. 10 minutes (to allow for the old one sticking).

Second question: Is there a reason why the main window handle in the
kitchen does NOT have a lock in the button? Is this a fire safety
consideration?

Don't know.

--
F

On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 04:18:43 -0800 (PST), Tabby
wrote:

On Mar 3, 12:14*pm, MM wrote:
Please take a look at my window handles:http://www.littletyke.myzen.co.uk/handles/index.html

Are they interchangeable?

yes

How do I remove them? I can see one screw. Is the other underneath
what looks like a covering cap? Is this simply prised up with a
thin-bladed screwdriver?

thats usually the way

I assume I don't have to dismantle the whole window, but simply remove
the handles, then swap them over, yes?

correct

Second question: Is there a reason why the main window handle in the
kitchen does NOT have a lock in the button? Is this a fire safety
consideration?

I dont know. Would you need to go through a room to escape otherwise?

I'd need to go out of the kitchen through the hall, then out the front
door, OR out of the kitchen into the (small) annexe and out the back
door. Certainly not as direct as through the kitchen window in an
emergency.

The house, by the way, was built in 2004.

The reason for all this is that I have in the past simply ticked the
box saying "all ground floor windows fitted with locks", not thinking
of the kitchen window (all *other* ground floor windows DO have locks
in their buttons - same key for whole house).

I've tried to find relevant information from Lincs Fire and Rescue,
Building Regs and elsewhere, but it's like hunting for a needle in a
haystack to find a definitive answer.

So, if I can just take one of the lockable handles from upstairs and
swap it with the kitchen window - job done and insurer doesn't need to
know. Otherwise, I'll have to contact insurer and be prepared for a
hefty policy alteration fee.

MM

MM ) wibbled on Thursday 03 March 2011 12:14:

Please take a look at my window handles:
http://www.littletyke.myzen.co.uk/handles/index.html

Are they interchangeable?

How do I remove them? I can see one screw. Is the other underneath
what looks like a covering cap? Is this simply prised up with a
thin-bladed screwdriver?

I assume I don't have to dismantle the whole window, but simply remove
the handles, then swap them over, yes?

Second question: Is there a reason why the main window handle in the
kitchen does NOT have a lock in the button? Is this a fire safety
consideration?

Thanks!

MM

Probably.

Move the handle to the open position - the other screw is possibly there.

I got somevery nice locakble cockspurs for my ali windows from ebay - exact
fit. In the process, I noticed a few sites (ebay and regular e-retailers)
selling all sorts of uPVC handles in a variety of standard sizes - you with
a bit of lookingyou'll probably find some.

--
Tim Watts

On 03/03/2011 12:45 MM wrote:

So, if I can just take one of the lockable handles from upstairs and
swap it with the kitchen window - job done and insurer doesn't need to
know. Otherwise, I'll have to contact insurer and be prepared for a
hefty policy alteration fee.

Just realised that my other answer wasn't to the question you asked!
Apologies. However, it could provide an alternative to swapping handles.
Just go to your local independent glazier and get an additional lockable
handle. Our insurance requires *all* handles to be lockable...

--
F

On Mar 3, 12:45*pm, MM wrote:

The reason for all this is that I have in the past simply ticked the
box saying "all ground floor windows fitted with locks", not thinking
of the kitchen window (all *other* ground floor windows DO have locks
in their buttons - same key for whole house).

You should think twice about doing that. Declaring lockable windows
usually provides only a minimal discount in your premium, however it
brings with it a high risk of being used against you in the event of a
break-in if the locks are suspected as having not been in use (whether
that is or is not the case). The same goes for BS-approved door locks.

Mathew

MM ) wibbled on Thursday 03 March 2011 12:14:

Please take a look at my window handles:
http://www.littletyke.myzen.co.uk/handles/index.html

Are they interchangeable?

How do I remove them? I can see one screw. Is the other underneath
what looks like a covering cap? Is this simply prised up with a
thin-bladed screwdriver?

I assume I don't have to dismantle the whole window, but simply remove
the handles, then swap them over, yes?

Second question: Is there a reason why the main window handle in the
kitchen does NOT have a lock in the button? Is this a fire safety
consideration?

Thanks!

MM

Have a look he

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/DG-partsco/...fsub=797411014

He is pretty reliable - I got my new ali handles there (to replace non
lockable ones).

--
Tim Watts

On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 05:07:27 -0800 (PST), Mathew Newton
wrote:

On Mar 3, 12:45*pm, MM wrote:

The reason for all this is that I have in the past simply ticked the
box saying "all ground floor windows fitted with locks", not thinking
of the kitchen window (all *other* ground floor windows DO have locks
in their buttons - same key for whole house).

You should think twice about doing that. Declaring lockable windows
usually provides only a minimal discount in your premium, however it
brings with it a high risk of being used against you in the event of a
break-in if the locks are suspected as having not been in use (whether
that is or is not the case). The same goes for BS-approved door locks.

This is why I want to fit a lockable handle! One from upstairs, which
is NOT mentioned in the policy. I can swap the handles and save myself
a tenner, plus I can be sure that the design is the same.

MM

On Mar 3, 2:49*pm, MM wrote:

This is why I want to fit a lockable handle! One from upstairs, which
is NOT mentioned in the policy. I can swap the handles and save myself
a tenner, plus I can be sure that the design is the same.

That's my point - even though you may wish to fit a lockable handle
with whatever security it may bring (probably none) then I would not
tell declare to the insurance company that all your windows are
lockable as there is an implication that they will always be locked.
Are you certain they always will be? I don't think the risk is worth
the £10 discount....

Mathew

On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:10:50 -0800 (PST), Mathew Newton
wrote:

On Mar 3, 2:49*pm, MM wrote:

This is why I want to fit a lockable handle! One from upstairs, which
is NOT mentioned in the policy. I can swap the handles and save myself
a tenner, plus I can be sure that the design is the same.

That's my point - even though you may wish to fit a lockable handle
with whatever security it may bring (probably none) then I would not
tell declare to the insurance company that all your windows are
lockable as there is an implication that they will always be locked.
Are you certain they always will be? I don't think the risk is worth
the £10 discount....

I don't think the policy states that they will/must always be locked,
but simply whether locks are fitted. In any case, all the lockable
ones ARE locked whenever I leave the house. In summer, if I need to
open a window, I unlock it, then relock it in the evening or when I'm
going out. Not a big deal.

MM

On Mar 3, 6:27*pm, MM wrote:

I don't think the policy states that they will/must always be locked,
but simply whether locks are fitted.

It doesn't need to. If you state they're all lockable there's an
implication you will be locking them. Otherwise, why would they give a
discount if you've got locks fitted but never actually locked them?!

Mathew

I don't think the policy states that they will/must always be locked,
but simply whether locks are fitted.

Ours asked if the windows have handle locks, which they do. They didn't ask
about the doors though and 3 of our outside doors have thumb turns on the
inside which can't be locked.

Mike

On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:01:22 -0800 (PST), Mathew Newton
wrote:

On Mar 3, 6:27*pm, MM wrote:

I don't think the policy states that they will/must always be locked,
but simply whether locks are fitted.

It doesn't need to. If you state they're all lockable there's an
implication you will be locking them. Otherwise, why would they give a
discount if you've got locks fitted but never actually locked them?!

I do lock them.

MM

On 03/03/11 12:14, MM wrote:
Please take a look at my window handles:
http://www.littletyke.myzen.co.uk/handles/index.html

Are they interchangeable?

Probably.


How do I remove them?

Remove the screws.

I can see one screw. Is the other underneath
what looks like a covering cap?

Yes.

Is this simply prised up with a
thin-bladed screwdriver?

Or a knife, yes.


I assume I don't have to dismantle the whole window, but simply remove
the handles, then swap them over, yes?

Normally, yes. But you might need to saw down the length of the square piece
of metal that protrudes into the window (does this have a name?).


Second question: Is there a reason why the main window handle in the
kitchen does NOT have a lock in the button? Is this a fire safety
consideration?

No idea. Not seen that kind of thing before.

On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 04:18:43 -0800 (PST), Tabby
wrote:

On Mar 3, 12:14*pm, MM wrote:
Please take a look at my window handles:http://www.littletyke.myzen.co.uk/handles/index.html

Are they interchangeable?

yes

How do I remove them? I can see one screw. Is the other underneath
what looks like a covering cap? Is this simply prised up with a
thin-bladed screwdriver?

thats usually the way

I assume I don't have to dismantle the whole window, but simply remove
the handles, then swap them over, yes?

correct

Second question: Is there a reason why the main window handle in the
kitchen does NOT have a lock in the button? Is this a fire safety
consideration?

I dont know. Would you need to go through a room to escape otherwise?

Finally got round to swapping my window handles! Took all of ten
minutes, including walking up and down the stairs twice. Now I have
all lockable handles on the ground floor and I am SO happy!

MM