Anyone got one?

My wife has developed a certain gleam in her eye which I blame on these
incessant cookery programmes.

Comments about instant death to the elderly or very young have so far
fallen on deaf ears.

regards
--
Tim Lamb

On Jan 2, 7:54*pm, Tim Lamb wrote:
Anyone got one?

My wife has developed a certain gleam in her eye which I blame on these
incessant cookery programmes.

Comments about instant death to the elderly or very young have so far
fallen on deaf ears.

regards
--
Tim Lamb

You're talking about Qooker and similar?

http://www.quookershop.co.uk/

In message
,
" writes
On Jan 2, 7:54*pm, Tim Lamb wrote:
Anyone got one?

My wife has developed a certain gleam in her eye which I blame on these
incessant cookery programmes.

Comments about instant death to the elderly or very young have so far
fallen on deaf ears.

regards
--
Tim Lamb

You're talking about Qooker and similar?

http://www.quookershop.co.uk/

Yes. £1074!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Advert in the Sunday Times magazine was getting a close scrutiny at
supper:-(

I wonder what impact hard water has.

regards


--
Tim Lamb

On 02/01/2011 20:24, Tim Lamb wrote:

In message
,
" writes
On Jan 2, 7:54 pm, Tim Lamb wrote:
Anyone got one?

My wife has developed a certain gleam in her eye which I blame on these
incessant cookery programmes.

Comments about instant death to the elderly or very young have so far
fallen on deaf ears.

regards
--
Tim Lamb

You're talking about Qooker and similar?

http://www.quookershop.co.uk/

Yes. £1074!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well if you're forced into getting something like that TLC have similar
things for a mere £725 http://preview.tinyurl.com/ykf2enn. But don't
let her scroll down to the bottom of the page - "Hydro Tap Boiling and
Chilled Water" for £2101.

Advert in the Sunday Times magazine was getting a close scrutiny at
supper:-(

I wonder what impact hard water has.

You probably need the Anti Scale - Filter System, just another £203.00

regards

Some of these devices claim a safety advantage with "No more dangerous
kettles". Apparently the theory is that someone putting their hand
underneath the flow gets it out again sharpish before too much serious
damage is done but if a kettle is knocked over instantly depositing
several pints of boiling water over the victim you're looking at a large
area of serious scalding. Sounds like a dubious trade off between a low
probability of a serious injury with the kettle against a much higher
probability of a somewhat less serious one with the boiling tap.

--
Mike Clarke

In article ad2d0e7d-af3e-4f9e-b2dc-3db917d61946@
30g2000yql.googlegroups.com, says...
You're talking about Qooker and similar?

http://www.quookershop.co.uk/


HOW MUCH?

Really - some people must be reallly short of things to waste their
money on.

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 20:49:38 -0000, Skipweasel wrote:

In article ad2d0e7d-af3e-4f9e-b2dc-3db917d61946@
30g2000yql.googlegroups.com, says...
You're talking about Qooker and similar?

http://www.quookershop.co.uk/


HOW MUCH?

Really - some people must be reallly short of things to waste their
money on.

Indeed.

TBH, I can't see how these things can work properly. They have a long
spout, so any water in that could be near room temperature when the
tap is first turned on - this would be totally unsatisfactory for
making tea unless you first discharge a half-pint or so of water down
the sink.
Unless there's some way of magically holding the water in the spout at
boiling point...

--
Frank Erskine

On Jan 2, 11:13*pm, Frank Erskine
wrote:

TBH, I can't see how these things can work properly.

Usually vented taps, which drain back. All the water in them is
reservoir temperature. The "tap" is a pushbutton and solenoid to the
cold fill in the base of the reservoir.

Frank Erskine wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 20:49:38 -0000, wrote:

In articlead2d0e7d-af3e-4f9e-b2dc-3db917d61946@
30g2000yql.googlegroups.com, says...
You're talking about Qooker and similar?

http://www.quookershop.co.uk/


HOW MUCH?

Really - some people must be reallly short of things to waste their
money on.

Indeed.

TBH, I can't see how these things can work properly. They have a long
spout, so any water in that could be near room temperature when the
tap is first turned on - this would be totally unsatisfactory for
making tea unless you first discharge a half-pint or so of water down
the sink.
Unless there's some way of magically holding the water in the spout at
boiling point...



How much volume do you think a piece of pipe with a quarter inch or so
of bore and a foot and a half long holds?

On Jan 3, 2:41*am, F Murtz wrote:

How much volume do you think a piece of pipe with a quarter inch or so
of bore and a foot and a half long holds?

Enough to generate a couple of ringbinders of paperwork each year
(legionella) if it's in commercial premises.

On 03/01/2011 02:41, F Murtz wrote:


How much volume do you think a piece of pipe with a quarter inch or so
of bore and a foot and a half long holds?

About a teacupful, at a guess. Fill the cup, throw away, add teabag,
refill. That's halved the efficiency for a start!

But my flat plate kettle self descales (water is only _fairly_ hard) and
I remember the Corvette. And the thing we had at work for 6 months or
so. And the once-a-week descale for the smart coffee machine.

Oh, and that's enough money to take her on a _really_ nice short break
somewhere...

Andy

gglz wrote:
You're talking about Qooker and similar?
http://www.quookershop.co.uk/

Argh!!!!

I'll just wash my hands. Sticks hands under tap. Argh!!!!!

WTF do people want to disguise kettles as taps? If it
delivers boiling water it shouldn't be disguished as
something that is safe to stuck your hands underneath.

JGH

Tim Lamb wrote:

Anyone got one?

My wife has developed a certain gleam in her eye which I blame on these
incessant cookery programmes.

Comments about instant death to the elderly or very young have so far
fallen on deaf ears.

regards

Waste of effort IMHO.

Too slow flow when you do want lots of boiling water and it hardly takes
long to boil a small amount of water in a kettle that is designed to cope
with a very small minimum load.

--
Tim Watts

On Jan 2, 8:26*pm, Tim Watts wrote:
Tim Lamb wrote:
Anyone got one?

My wife has developed a certain gleam in her eye which I blame on these
incessant cookery programmes.

Comments about instant death to the elderly or very young have so far
fallen on deaf ears.

regards

Waste of effort IMHO.

Too slow flow when you do want lots of boiling water and it hardly takes
long to boil a small amount of water in a kettle that is designed to cope
with a very small minimum load.

--
Tim Watts

I did some sums when I first heard of them, and I agree, a kettle used
carefully (fill cup from tap, empty cup into kettle) will return
maximum energy efficiency.

But for instant cuppa tea convenience - and the reality that no-one
but me will ever gauge the kettle contents accurately - if they live
up to the advertising, I will eventually get one.

wrote in message ...
On Jan 2, 8:26 pm, Tim Watts wrote:
Tim Lamb wrote:
Anyone got one?

My wife has developed a certain gleam in her eye which I blame on these
incessant cookery programmes.

Comments about instant death to the elderly or very young have so far
fallen on deaf ears.

regards

Waste of effort IMHO.

Too slow flow when you do want lots of boiling water and it hardly takes
long to boil a small amount of water in a kettle that is designed to cope
with a very small minimum load.

--
Tim Watts

I did some sums when I first heard of them, and I agree, a kettle used
carefully (fill cup from tap, empty cup into kettle) will return
maximum energy efficiency.

But for instant cuppa tea convenience - and the reality that no-one
but me will ever gauge the kettle contents accurately - if they live
up to the advertising, I will eventually get one.

Does anyone else remember a Gas Board TV ad back the 60s which included the line:

"And with some gas water heaters, you can even make tea, straight from the tap!"

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

On 02/01/2011 20:35, wrote:

I did some sums when I first heard of them, and I agree, a kettle used
carefully (fill cup from tap, empty cup into kettle) will return
maximum energy efficiency.

But for instant cuppa tea convenience - and the reality that no-one
but me will ever gauge the kettle contents accurately - if they live
up to the advertising, I will eventually get one.

But the boiling taps might be just as wasteful of energy as an
overfilled kettle considering that they keep a supply of permanently
heated water in a small tank under the worktop.

--
Mike Clarke

On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 23:13:45 +0000, Mike Clarke
wrote:

On 02/01/2011 20:35, wrote:

I did some sums when I first heard of them, and I agree, a kettle used
carefully (fill cup from tap, empty cup into kettle) will return
maximum energy efficiency.

But for instant cuppa tea convenience - and the reality that no-one
but me will ever gauge the kettle contents accurately - if they live
up to the advertising, I will eventually get one.

But the boiling taps might be just as wasteful of energy as an
overfilled kettle considering that they keep a supply of permanently
heated water in a small tank under the worktop.

Do they work by electricity/coal/gas/oil/horse gin/nuclear energy? ;-)

--
Frank Erskine

In article ,
says...
Do they work by electricity/coal/gas/oil/horse gin/nuclear energy? ;-)


Now there's an idea. A radiothermal inglenuke under the counter.
Sterilises your dishwashing, too (q.v. other thread about dishwasher
sand)

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

But the boiling taps might be just as wasteful of energy as an
overfilled kettle considering that they keep a supply of permanently
heated water in a small tank under the worktop.

A vacuum-insulated tank.

Standby power consumption is low.

In article 15eb3916-e4d8-4673-bf55-
, says...
Standby power consumption is low.


10W. That's still more than miser-me cares to have lurking. I begrudge
the cat 15W for her hot-spot, but then she's 23 this year and probably
deserves a bit of comfort.

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

wrote:

But for instant cuppa tea convenience - and the reality that no-one
but me will ever gauge the kettle contents accurately - if they live
up to the advertising, I will eventually get one.

Yep, when Screwfix start stocking them for £300 I'll get one.

On Jan 2, 7:54*pm, Tim Lamb wrote:
Anyone got one?

My wife has developed a certain gleam in her eye which I blame on these
incessant cookery programmes.

Comments about instant death to the elderly or very young have so far
fallen on deaf ears.

regards
--
Tim Lamb

My wife insisted on having one of these, it's surprised me by actually
being rather good and I'd be disappointed now if it died. Ridiculous
from an economic point of view, but that is in the past. (Purchase
price, that is, the running cost is not enormously different from an
imperfectly used kettle).

Quooker seemed the best to me and what we went for - it's the closest
to boiling point for tea, many of them are quite a bit less than
boiling. Got mine from a Dutch web supplier, much cheaper.

What do you want to know?

In message
,
Bolted writes
On Jan 2, 7:54*pm, Tim Lamb wrote:
Anyone got one?

My wife has developed a certain gleam in her eye which I blame on these
incessant cookery programmes.

Comments about instant death to the elderly or very young have so far
fallen on deaf ears.

regards
--
Tim Lamb

My wife insisted on having one of these, it's surprised me by actually
being rather good and I'd be disappointed now if it died. Ridiculous
from an economic point of view, but that is in the past. (Purchase
price, that is, the running cost is not enormously different from an
imperfectly used kettle).

Quooker seemed the best to me and what we went for - it's the closest
to boiling point for tea, many of them are quite a bit less than
boiling. Got mine from a Dutch web supplier, much cheaper.

What do you want to know?

Are they d-i-y able? Worth having? Hard water scale issues? Available
for less than the ridiculous published price?

regards

--
Tim Lamb

On Jan 2, 8:50*pm, Tim Lamb wrote:

What do you want to know?

Are they d-i-y able? Worth having? Hard water scale issues? Available
for less than the ridiculous published price?

Easily DIY-able. On the water side it has an inlet connector which
fits to a washing machine valve. There's a safety overflow hose from
that valve which needs to be attached to a drainage pipe but the kit
includes a solvent weld (and threaded) hose barb and the right tap.
You obviously need a drainage pipe (and an electric socket) in the
relevant cupboard.

We're in London so have fairly hard water. The mesh on the end of the
tap clogs up every couple of months, but an overnight soak in vinegar
sorts it out. The maintenance instructions point to hot water flexi
connectors which may need de-scaling but I've yet to need to do that
(it's been going about a year).

I saved about 25% buying from Holland. There were Ebay re-sellers who
appeared to be doing the same thing and still offering decent
discounts (but the warranty issues might be more complicated).

The Quooker taps don't actually look like normal taps and only an
idiot would stick their hand under one. If they did, they would try
to turn the knob and it wouldn't turn as you need to depress the knob
to turn it. Then the tap makes a noise like a jet engine and starts
to spit out water spray. The first second is the cold/coolish water
in the narrow bore tap flexi-hose so would give plenty of time for the
idiot to remove their hand and stare at the strange dragon tap in
wonder at what the world is turning into.

It makes fine tea, unlike the Zip types which deliver at lower
temps.

Worth having? As I said, now I've got it I'd miss it if it died.
That doesn't make the economics make any more sense, but from where I
am now, money long gone, I'm quite glad I lost that argument to
someone who didn't give much weight to that as a factor. The
convenience is very convenient, even if it is a complete luxury.

In message
,
Bolted writes
On Jan 2, 8:50*pm, Tim Lamb wrote:

What do you want to know?

Are they d-i-y able? Worth having? Hard water scale issues? Available
for less than the ridiculous published price?

Easily DIY-able. On the water side it has an inlet connector which
fits to a washing machine valve. There's a safety overflow hose from
that valve which needs to be attached to a drainage pipe but the kit
includes a solvent weld (and threaded) hose barb and the right tap.
You obviously need a drainage pipe (and an electric socket) in the
relevant cupboard.

We're in London so have fairly hard water. The mesh on the end of the
tap clogs up every couple of months, but an overnight soak in vinegar
sorts it out. The maintenance instructions point to hot water flexi
connectors which may need de-scaling but I've yet to need to do that
(it's been going about a year).

I saved about 25% buying from Holland. There were Ebay re-sellers who
appeared to be doing the same thing and still offering decent
discounts (but the warranty issues might be more complicated).

The Quooker taps don't actually look like normal taps and only an
idiot would stick their hand under one. If they did, they would try
to turn the knob and it wouldn't turn as you need to depress the knob
to turn it. Then the tap makes a noise like a jet engine and starts
to spit out water spray. The first second is the cold/coolish water
in the narrow bore tap flexi-hose so would give plenty of time for the
idiot to remove their hand and stare at the strange dragon tap in
wonder at what the world is turning into.

It makes fine tea, unlike the Zip types which deliver at lower
temps.

Worth having? As I said, now I've got it I'd miss it if it died.
That doesn't make the economics make any more sense, but from where I
am now, money long gone, I'm quite glad I lost that argument to

This is a circumlocution worth remembering:-)

someone who didn't give much weight to that as a factor.


The
convenience is very convenient, even if it is a complete luxury.

Right. Clear enough. I'll continue to hope holidays and spring will
re-direct her interest. We do have *pod* coffee maker which is
relatively instant.

Previous experience with electric shower elements in this area is a life
of 2-3 years. Clearly that is hugely more water.

At present I am holding up a reminder of how often she needs to clean
the kettle as a deterrent:-)

regards




--
Tim Lamb

In message
,
Bolted writes
The Quooker taps don't actually look like normal taps and only an
idiot would stick their hand under one. If they did, they would try
to turn the knob and it wouldn't turn as you need to depress the knob
to turn it.

Still scares the heck out of me for domestic use if there is the
slightest chance that a child would get anywhere near it. Especially
visitors, would we need to do a H&S induction before allowing visitors
into the home? Unfortunately these things are rare enough that most
people, children, would not have come across them before and so realise
that they are dangerous.
Otherwise it looks a darn good idea.
--
Bill

Tim Lamb wrote:

Comments about instant death to the elderly or very young have so far
fallen on deaf ears.

Does anyone really need boiling water that quickly? It's the equivalent
of standing over a microwave shouting "hurry up!"

And the idea of making it look like a sink tap seems completely. Ok, the
householders know but, given the propensity of those 'drinking water'
taps in kitchens or just it's similarity to an ordinary tap, how long
till someone shoves their mouth under it wanting a quick sip of water.

Much as I hate signs everywhere ("Warning: Hot water" on hot taps being
annoying) I would actually want some H&S bod to impose mandatory signage
for such a thing. Boiling is way worse than hot.

Mind you, the sheer volume of self promotion of something people don't
need on the web page - 'vital', 'must have', 'trend setters' - will
hopefully put people off.

--
Scott

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?

On Jan 2, 7:54*pm, Tim Lamb wrote:
Anyone got one?

In several recently re-fitted offices.

Hateful things. They're too cold for decent tea (good for green tea
though) and the switches are horribly fiddly. They're also usually set
up at cup height, meaning that you can't get a decently sized coffee
pot underneath them. The worst of all were those in HP Labs, where
they have some sort of safety guard wall around them, so that you
can't get anything under there wider or taller than a mug.

Most have a "safety interlock" which is so awkward to use that it soon
gets disabled.

On Jan 2, 7:54*pm, Tim Lamb wrote:
Anyone got one?

Oh, if you think these are expensive, take a look at the hot / chilled
combo taps.

On 1/2/2011 7:54 PM, Tim Lamb wrote:
Anyone got one?

My wife has developed a certain gleam in her eye which I blame on
these incessant cookery programmes.

Comments about instant death to the elderly or very young have so far
fallen on deaf ears.

regards
Wall mounted glass kettles were all the rage in the early 60s, had a
chromed spout as I remember and a rubber filler hose to fit on the tap.
Can't remember what they were called.
Don

?

"Donwill" wrote in message
...
On 1/2/2011 7:54 PM, Tim Lamb wrote:
Anyone got one?

My wife has developed a certain gleam in her eye which I blame on these
incessant cookery programmes.

Comments about instant death to the elderly or very young have so far
fallen on deaf ears.

regards
Wall mounted glass kettles were all the rage in the early 60s, had a
chromed spout as I remember and a rubber filler hose to fit on the tap.
Can't remember what they were called.
Don

Creda "Corvette"!

On Jan 2, 7:54*pm, Tim Lamb wrote:
Anyone got one?

My wife has developed a certain gleam in her eye which I blame on these
incessant cookery programmes.

Comments about instant death to the elderly or very young have so far
fallen on deaf ears.

regards
--
Tim Lamb

Heh Heh! Years ago there was a device called a "Creda Corvette" I
spent many happy hours repairing them. Did exactly this job. Now
disappeared for good reasons.
I would cut her credit card up. It's just another passing fad gadget.
Any spare cash you have, donate to me, Heh Heh!
you want a quick and efficient supply of boiling water get one of
these jugs with the lift-off ability. Marvellous, boils a cupfull of
water in seconds (or several cupfulls) and you can just lift it off
and pour without unplugging. Element is flush plate, easily cleaned
with vinegar for limescale etc.
The circular plug one are best, they go on anyway round without having
to align them up.

harry ) wibbled on Monday 03 January 2011 12:02:

On Jan 2, 7:54 pm, Tim Lamb wrote:
Anyone got one?

My wife has developed a certain gleam in her eye which I blame on these
incessant cookery programmes.

Comments about instant death to the elderly or very young have so far
fallen on deaf ears.

regards
--
Tim Lamb

Heh Heh! Years ago there was a device called a "Creda Corvette" I
spent many happy hours repairing them. Did exactly this job. Now
disappeared for good reasons.
I would cut her credit card up. It's just another passing fad gadget.
Any spare cash you have, donate to me, Heh Heh!
you want a quick and efficient supply of boiling water get one of
these jugs with the lift-off ability. Marvellous, boils a cupfull of
water in seconds (or several cupfulls) and you can just lift it off
and pour without unplugging. Element is flush plate, easily cleaned
with vinegar for limescale etc.
The circular plug one are best, they go on anyway round without having
to align them up.

I have a kettle that does all that - flat boiling plate, circular plug.
Agreed - wouldnever have a none plate kettle again.

--
Tim Watts

In article ,
says...
I have a kettle that does all that - flat boiling plate, circular plug.
Agreed - wouldnever have a none plate kettle again.


We've just got our first one, since the other died rather terminally
over Christmas after 15 years of stalwart service.

There are definite advantages - most notably the very low minimum
volume. However, do you find yours very noisy compared to the old sort?

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

On Jan 3, 2:14*pm, Skipweasel wrote:
In article ,
says...

I have a kettle that does all that - flat boiling plate, circular plug.
Agreed - wouldnever have a none plate kettle again.

We've just got our first one, since the other died rather terminally
over Christmas after 15 years of stalwart service.

There are definite advantages - most notably the very low minimum
volume. However, do you find yours very noisy compared to the old sort?

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

No special noises from ours.

On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 04:02:25 -0800 (PST), harry
wrote:

On Jan 2, 7:54*pm, Tim Lamb wrote:
Anyone got one?

My wife has developed a certain gleam in her eye which I blame on these
incessant cookery programmes.

Comments about instant death to the elderly or very young have so far
fallen on deaf ears.

regards
--
Tim Lamb

Heh Heh! Years ago there was a device called a "Creda Corvette" I
spent many happy hours repairing them. Did exactly this job. Now
disappeared for good reasons.


Were they the things that Barbers used to have? Instant boiling water
for sterilizing the various cutting tools and able to supply water for
an orrible mug of tea as well.

G.Harman

Tim Lamb wrote:
Anyone got one?

My wife has developed a certain gleam in her eye which I blame on these
incessant cookery programmes.

Comments about instant death to the elderly or very young have so far
fallen on deaf ears.

regards

We had these things in the kitchens at work and every couple of months
it was a strip down for a chemical descale due to furring up.
They are an absolute menace and IMHO no justification to have them in a
domestic situation. Modern jug kettle costing £5 can boil a cupful in a
minute or less and is far more economic than keeping several pints of
water at boiling point 24/7 however much insulation there is.

Bob