after pulling all the plumbing out of the airing cupboard
I now have a pile of copper pipe, and a water tank with immersion heater
inside it.

The copper has all the brass fittings on the ends and the tank is wrapped in
the usual foam insulation

Anyone know,....

1. is it worth going to a scrap dealer with this small amount
2. if yes, would I need to separate the brass from the copper and do I need
to somehow remove the foam from the tank?

(Not interested in selling the 5 yr old tank,pump etc they're used and I'm
sure eBay will return minimal amounts)

TIA
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Vass

On Nov 14, 9:00*am, "Vass"
wrote:
after pulling all the plumbing out of the airing cupboard
I now have a pile of copper pipe, and a water tank with immersion heater
inside it.

The copper has all the brass fittings on the ends and the tank is wrapped in
the usual foam insulation

Anyone know,....

1. is it worth going to a scrap dealer with this small amount
2. if yes, would I need to separate the brass from the copper and do I need
to somehow remove the foam from the tank?

(Not interested in selling the 5 yr old tank,pump etc they're used and I'm
sure eBay will return minimal amounts)

TIA
--
Vass

I took similar to the scrappie about a year ago. Got £30. I think the
price of copper has gone up since then. You might get a bit more by
separating it. Depends how much work you want. The foam sticks really
well. I gave up on it myself in the end, couldn't be bothered. And
then you have to get rid of the foam too.

Vass wrote:

after pulling all the plumbing out of the airing cupboard
I now have a pile of copper pipe, and a water tank with immersion heater
inside it.

The copper has all the brass fittings on the ends and the tank is wrapped in
the usual foam insulation

Anyone know,....

1. is it worth going to a scrap dealer with this small amount
2. if yes, would I need to separate the brass from the copper and do I need
to somehow remove the foam from the tank?

Yes, it is worthwhile weighing it in. Ring round first to see what they
are paying, one local to me pays £1.30/kg, another around £2.50, so it
pays to make a few calls.

If you can, take off the foam first. It comes off pretty easy if you
attack it with a Stanley knife. £10+ for the tank alone.
No real need to separate brass and copper. Pure copper gets a slightly
better price, though for small amounts it isnt worth bothering with.
I've never separated any of mine.

Alan.


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In message , Vass
writes
after pulling all the plumbing out of the airing cupboard
I now have a pile of copper pipe, and a water tank with immersion
heater inside it.

The copper has all the brass fittings on the ends and the tank is
wrapped in the usual foam insulation

Anyone know,....

1. is it worth going to a scrap dealer with this small amount
2. if yes, would I need to separate the brass from the copper and do I
need to somehow remove the foam from the tank?


Well worth a visit to a scrappy, mate of mine had a plastic dustbin with
a fair bit of 15mm pipe in it, not too heavy, could easily be picked up
and he got £50:00 for it last week. Brass fittings still attached. no
idea on the foam though.

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Bill

On Nov 14, 9:00*am, "Vass"
wrote:

1. is it worth going to a scrap dealer with this small amount

Yes.

2. if yes, would I need to separate the brass from the copper and do I need
to somehow remove the foam from the tank?

A few minutes with a pipe cutter gives you clean copper free of solder
and brass, which should attract a better price, and a pile of
trimmings.

I'd keep the tank myself (sliced and packed flat), as copper sheet is
always useful.

About 18 months ago I removed all the piping and ( uninsulated ) hot water
cylinder from a 2 up, 2 down terraced before having a new CH system fitted
there.

I didn't seperate the brass.

There was 28mm, 22mm and 15mm pipe.

I too wondered whether it was worthwhile taking it for scrap but as the
scrap dealer was only a mile away I loaded the trailer with it not knowing
what to expect.

They had a quick look over the trailer on entry, weighed the loaded trailer
on entry then weighed it unloaded on exit.

Proof of identity was needed.

£110 on exit - I was suprised - definately worthwhile.
I cant remember now but this load might have also included some old lead
cable removed from the same property and weighed seperately.

I later took the removed radiators ( I think there were 6 in all ) to the
same place and 2 scrap boilers and a couple of odds and sods ( 2 car wheels
without tyres and two front brake disks ).

£85 was a suprise for me.

Guess it depends what transport you have and how far away the scrap dealer
is but it was definately worthwhile for me.

I had to unload all the scrap from my trailer though whilst in their yard.

I used a scrap dealer that was used to weighing wagon loads of scrap and had
a weighbridge at the entry point so I guess they are a commercial scrap
dealer as opposed to a scrap yard.

On Nov 15, 12:40 am, "Booty" wrote:

I used a scrap dealer that was used to weighing wagon loads of scrap and had
a weighbridge at the entry point

you mean transit flatbeds full of, ahem "scrap"

Jim K

"Jim K" wrote in message
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On Nov 15, 12:40 am, "Booty" wrote:

I used a scrap dealer that was used to weighing wagon loads of scrap and
had
a weighbridge at the entry point

you mean transit flatbeds full of, ahem "scrap"

Jim K

Well no doubt there were some of those but I didn't see any whilst I was
there.

But, while I was unloading my trailer, I did see a couple of very big wagons
( guess maybe 4 - 5 metres high ) arrive with that flexible top cover
swinging type of thing that swings from the back of the wagon to the front
to stop the scrap falling out on the road during transit.

Made me wonder why they would be interested in a 7 x 5 foot trailer load but
I had no problem.

The weighbridge was quite big.

Booty

On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 09:35:46 +0000, (A.Lee) wrote:

No real need to separate brass and copper. Pure copper gets a slightly
better price, though for small amounts it isnt worth bothering with.
I've never separated any of mine.

By now I guess the OP has been to the scrap yard but my experience was
that for copper it is definitely worth a visit but less so for other
metals. I think I was told they pay one hundred pounds a tonne for
steel, so you need an awful lot before you get much money. Any amount
is better than nothing, which you'd get if you used your bin or the
tip, so if it is close by or en route, it is still worth popping in.

I'm not a fan of those commercial types with weigh bridges as I found
they were not geared up to accept small domestic weights of things and
the one by me seemed to have scrap all over the place which seemed to
be a puncture waiting to happen. It's no good getting a few pounds for
metal and then having to spend sixty times as much on new tyres.

I once took various "bare" copper pipes but inadvertently left a lock
shield on the end of one and the *~!@ gave me the lower rate because
it had brass on. It wouldn't have hurt them to weight that piece
separately!

HTH

On Nov 20, 4:14 pm, Fred wrote:
On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 09:35:46 +0000, (A.Lee) wrote:
No real need to separate brass and copper. Pure copper gets a slightly
better price, though for small amounts it isnt worth bothering with.
I've never separated any of mine.

By now I guess the OP has been to the scrap yard but my experience was
that for copper it is definitely worth a visit but less so for other
metals. I think I was told they pay one hundred pounds a tonne for
steel, so you need an awful lot before you get much money. Any amount
is better than nothing, which you'd get if you used your bin or the
tip, so if it is close by or en route, it is still worth popping in.

I'm not a fan of those commercial types with weigh bridges as I found
they were not geared up to accept small domestic weights of things and
the one by me seemed to have scrap all over the place which seemed to
be a puncture waiting to happen. It's no good getting a few pounds for
metal and then having to spend sixty times as much on new tyres.

I once took various "bare" copper pipes but inadvertently left a lock
shield on the end of one and the *~!@ gave me the lower rate because
it had brass on. It wouldn't have hurt them to weight that piece
separately!

HTH

what's the definition of "bare copper" (or whatever gets top money for
old pipes etc) - does paint affect the value for e.g.?
what's brass (as in compression fittings) worth?

Jim K

On Nov 20, 4:20*pm, Jim K wrote:

what's the definition of "bare copper" (or whatever gets top money for
old pipes etc) - does paint affect the value for e.g.?

Depends on their mood, and your credibility. Painted copper is OK,
paint that looks like it might be hiding solder is another thing.


what's brass (as in compression fittings) worth?

Worth taking, if you have a bucketful. It's all worth something, it's
just that it's worth far more when segregated.

On Nov 21, 12:10 am, Andy Dingley wrote:
On Nov 20, 4:20 pm, Jim K wrote:

what's the definition of "bare copper" (or whatever gets top money for
old pipes etc) - does paint affect the value for e.g.?

Depends on their mood, and your credibility. Painted copper is OK,
paint that looks like it might be hiding solder is another thing.

er...so is that *any* solder fitings on it and it's knocked down in
price?

Jim K

On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 01:23:45 -0800 (PST), Jim K wrote:

Depends on their mood, and your credibility. Painted copper is OK,
paint that looks like it might be hiding solder is another thing.

er...so is that *any* solder fitings on it and it's knocked down in
price?

Or the solder left on the tube from removing a soldered fitting?

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Dave.