As of the last few days our house alarm outside bell (siren really) box
sounds if the mains goes down. It never used to, the only reason I first
noticed was an RCD tripping fault on a mains ring circuit tripped the
fuse box RCD, and the alarm sounded, although the control panel was in
"Daytime" mode, and no panel lights showed. Restoring mains stops the
alarm, but resetting the alarm panel has no effect. Any clues what's up
with the damned thing? Otherwise the system appears to function normally.
We get not infrequent power outages here, so this could be a damned
nuisance ;-) Thanks.

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"Chris Wilson" wrote in message
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As of the last few days our house alarm outside bell (siren really) box
sounds if the mains goes down. It never used to, the only reason I first
noticed was an RCD tripping fault on a mains ring circuit tripped the
fuse box RCD, and the alarm sounded, although the control panel was in
"Daytime" mode, and no panel lights showed. Restoring mains stops the
alarm, but resetting the alarm panel has no effect. Any clues what's up
with the damned thing? Otherwise the system appears to function normally.
We get not infrequent power outages here, so this could be a damned
nuisance ;-) Thanks.

Battery in the alarm box. Test to see if there is an output

If no power gets to the bell (either mains or battery) then the siren will
activate from it own second battery

Sounds like your internal battery in the alarm panel is
flat/goosed/knackered. Simple to replace. Basically if the bell box
doesn't have 12volts going to it, it will start to ring. And nothing will
stop it unless its own battery is disabled or disconnected or power is
restored.

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"Chris Wilson" wrote in message
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As of the last few days our house alarm outside bell (siren really) box
sounds if the mains goes down. It never used to, the only reason I first
noticed was an RCD tripping fault on a mains ring circuit tripped the
fuse box RCD, and the alarm sounded, although the control panel was in
"Daytime" mode, and no panel lights showed. Restoring mains stops the
alarm, but resetting the alarm panel has no effect. Any clues what's up
with the damned thing? Otherwise the system appears to function normally.
We get not infrequent power outages here, so this could be a damned
nuisance ;-) Thanks.

--
Best Regards,
Chris.

As of the last few days our house alarm outside bell (siren really) box
sounds if the mains goes down.

Most alarms have a battery backup in the panel - it could be the battery
is now duff (they do fail after a few years). Its been a while since I
last fitted one, but the most common brand was Yuasa IIRC...

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SantaUK wrote:
Sounds like your internal battery in the alarm panel is
flat/goosed/knackered. Simple to replace. Basically if the bell box
doesn't have 12volts going to it, it will start to ring. And nothing
will stop it unless its own battery is disabled or disconnected or
power is restored.


"Chris Wilson" wrote in message
...
As of the last few days our house alarm outside bell (siren really)
box sounds if the mains goes down. It never used to, the only reason
I first noticed was an RCD tripping fault on a mains ring circuit
tripped the fuse box RCD, and the alarm sounded, although the
control panel was in "Daytime" mode, and no panel lights showed.
Restoring mains stops the alarm, but resetting the alarm panel has
no effect. Any clues what's up with the damned thing? Otherwise the
system appears to function normally. We get not infrequent power
outages here, so this could be a damned nuisance ;-) Thanks.

--
Best Regards,
Chris.

Has anybody ever noticed any action being taken as a result of an activated
house alarm. Have you ever seen the police screeching to a halt outside the
premises? Do you phone 999 when you hear an alarm? In my opinion, these
things are nothing but an annoyance and a complete waste of time and think
most potential burglars realise this.

Terry D.

Has anybody ever noticed any action being taken as a result of an
activated house alarm. Have you ever seen the police screeching to a
halt outside the premises? Do you phone 999 when you hear an alarm?
In my opinion, these things are nothing but an annoyance and a
complete waste of time and think most potential burglars realise this.

Terry D.



I disagree with you
In our cul de sac, no one has a dodgy alarm
If one sounds we know it's worth looking into

The Police have responded to just an audible alarm, as they were nearby

The 'night set' mode gives us real peace of mind, knowing we won't sleep
through any burglaries

Regarding the burglars, there are so many homes without any security, you
average (junkie) thief will target those, leaving alarmed homes alone

I also had the same problem as the OP and this was cured by a new battery
which I bought from City Electrical Factors for about £10

Regards

Hays

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wrote

"Chris Wilson" wrote in message
t...
As of the last few days our house alarm outside bell (siren really) box
sounds if the mains goes down. It never used to, the only reason I first
noticed was an RCD tripping fault on a mains ring circuit tripped the
fuse box RCD, and the alarm sounded, although the control panel was in
"Daytime" mode, and no panel lights showed. Restoring mains stops the
alarm, but resetting the alarm panel has no effect. Any clues what's up
with the damned thing? Otherwise the system appears to function normally.
We get not infrequent power outages here, so this could be a damned
nuisance ;-) Thanks.

Battery in the alarm box. Test to see if there is an output

I had _identical_ symptoms a few years ago and the cure was a new 12V
rechargeable battery inside the alarm control panel. The old battery was
still giving 12V (nominal) at the output terminals but it appeared not
to supply enough current at the point where the mains failed and the
alarm latched on.

In my control panel the battery is connected with two spade terminals
and was very easy to replace. The control panel will probably have a
tamper switch which will set off the alarm as you remove the cover. If
you remove the mains power AND the battery make sure that you still
have the instructions (and understand them) about configuring alarm from
scratch. The instructions that came with my alarm were in that classic
Far East to English translation - with only half the information needed
to program the box in the user guide and the other half in a separate
installation guide))

Suitable batteries can be obtained from CPC, Maplin and many other
places.

http://custom1.farnell.com/cpc/produ...CPC+Catalogue&
category%5Fname=Electrical%2C+Security+and+Test+%2 D+Batteries+%2D+Recharg
eable+%2D+Lead+Acid+%2D+Alarm+Batteries&product%5F id=258210

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"hays" wrote in message
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I disagree with you
In our cul de sac, no one has a dodgy alarm
If one sounds we know it's worth looking into

The Police have responded to just an audible alarm, as they were
nearby

The 'night set' mode gives us real peace of mind, knowing we won't
sleep
through any burglaries

Regarding the burglars, there are so many homes without any
security, you
average (junkie) thief will target those, leaving alarmed homes
alone

I also had the same problem as the OP and this was cured by a new
battery
which I bought from City Electrical Factors for about £10

It's a tough one really, it does very much depend on the area you
live in and your neighbours as to whether alarms are useful. I have
a new house and it is wired up ready to take an alarm and I am
seriously considering it. Having said that I remember watching a
documentary a few years ago that interviewed burglars and they
basically fell into 2 camps. First was the opportunist (usually a
drug addict) who takes a few chances as they can and an alarm would
put them off. The second was the "professional burglar" who is
skilled at breaking into houses and knows exactly what is worth
money. They said that a burglar alarm is actually an attraction as
they believe there is something worth stealing and they said that
most people ignore them so they are not very high risk. Both said
they would never do a house with a dog. I think I will probably get
an alarm as most burglaries are done by druggies these days, but I
also have all my lights on timers so anyone watching would never know
if I was out or in.

Angela

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:18:42 GMT, Exiddor wrote:

I suppose you could do what one of my neighbours does. He has his alarm
trigger a very loud recording of a German Shepherd barking furiously.

If I didn't know it was a recording, there's no way I'd break into that
house once the alarm triggered! :-)

But as you know you'll be screwing it next time you know he's out?

Jim.

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says...
In message , John
wrote

"Chris Wilson" wrote in message
t...
As of the last few days our house alarm outside bell (siren really) box
sounds if the mains goes down. It never used to, the only reason I first
noticed was an RCD tripping fault on a mains ring circuit tripped the
fuse box RCD, and the alarm sounded, although the control panel was in
"Daytime" mode, and no panel lights showed. Restoring mains stops the
alarm, but resetting the alarm panel has no effect. Any clues what's up
with the damned thing? Otherwise the system appears to function normally.
We get not infrequent power outages here, so this could be a damned
nuisance ;-) Thanks.

Battery in the alarm box. Test to see if there is an output

I had _identical_ symptoms a few years ago and the cure was a new 12V
rechargeable battery inside the alarm control panel. The old battery was
still giving 12V (nominal) at the output terminals but it appeared not
to supply enough current at the point where the mains failed and the
alarm latched on.

In my control panel the battery is connected with two spade terminals
and was very easy to replace. The control panel will probably have a
tamper switch which will set off the alarm as you remove the cover. If
you remove the mains power AND the battery make sure that you still
have the instructions (and understand them) about configuring alarm from
scratch. The instructions that came with my alarm were in that classic
Far East to English translation - with only half the information needed
to program the box in the user guide and the other half in a separate
installation guide))

Suitable batteries can be obtained from CPC, Maplin and many other
places.


Thanks everyone, despite me buying a new battery 2 years ago (Yuasa) it
has died, so have temporarily fitted a much bigger one on fly leads,
until I can pick up another correctly sized one.

With regard to whether alarms are worth it, we live in the sticks, and
our neighbour always has a look around if it goes off, and releases our
dogs if anything looks suspicious. Being in the sticks people tend to
investigate their alarm at the same time as coming back (coincidentally)
from trying to shoot a fox :-)

In the town, where I lived before, a sounding alarm brought nothing in
the way of interest or response, and I agree, they are pretty useless
save as a sop to the insurance policy.

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Best Regards,
Chris.

Angela wrote:

Both said
they would never do a house with a dog.


They would in my case. The little wuss would be all over them licking
their ruddy faces as soon as they climbed in the window.

Jim Ley wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:18:42 GMT, Exiddor wrote:


I suppose you could do what one of my neighbours does. He has his alarm
trigger a very loud recording of a German Shepherd barking furiously.

If I didn't know it was a recording, there's no way I'd break into that
house once the alarm triggered! :-)


But as you know you'll be screwing it next time you know he's out?


Bestiality on UK.d-i-y?



Jim.

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:19:38 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

Jim Ley wrote:
But as you know you'll be screwing it next time you know he's out?

Bestiality on UK.d-i-y?

sorry that's clearly off-topic, although sometimes I do feel it's
appropriate to get a monkey in, when it's really just too much hard
work doing it yourself.

Jim.

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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Angela wrote:

Both said
they would never do a house with a dog.


They would in my case. The little wuss would be all over them licking
their ruddy faces as soon as they climbed in the window.



There's a dog near us that would open the door for them just to get some
company. The poor thing is left on its own for hours on end every day.

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 01:42:27 GMT, "BigWallop"
wrote:

There's a dog near us that would open the door for them just to get some
company. The poor thing is left on its own for hours on end every day.

I don't have a dog (would like to get one, but it's a choice between
having a wife or a dog, and for reasons which I won't explore here the
wife gets the vote).

Really annoys me when people treat their animals like this by leaving
them neglected for long hours day after day.

PoP

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PoP wrote:
Really annoys me when people treat their animals like this by leaving
them neglected for long hours day after day.

Just about the nicest dog I know is left outside in the back garden during
working hours. He has, however, a kennel.
I have him for the odd weekend when the owners go abroad, etc. And his
behaviour knocks spots off all the pampered lap dogs we meet on the common.

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"PoP" wrote in message
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 01:42:27 GMT, "BigWallop"
wrote:

There's a dog near us that would open the door for them just to get some
company. The poor thing is left on its own for hours on end every day.

I don't have a dog (would like to get one, but it's a choice between
having a wife or a dog, and for reasons which I won't explore here the
wife gets the vote).


Like the guy charged with the offence of beastiality for having carnal
relations with dogs. The judge asked "How low can a man get?" to which the
guy answered "Personally, I can get down to about the size of a corgi".


Really annoys me when people treat their animals like this by leaving
them neglected for long hours day after day.

PoP