On 17/09/2010 22:37, Tim Watts wrote:
On 17/09/10 22:25, John Rumm wrote:
On 16/09/2010 23:36, Lobster wrote:
On 16/09/2010 12:28, Vortex7 wrote:
On 16/09/2010 10:02, Mike Harrison wrote:
Scariest thing I've ever seen - watch in fullscreen or full effect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uccjrp5NRYE

...well that made my arse "wink".

But I think this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmDhRvvs5Xw is on a
par
with it.

Or how about this one (speed free-climber Dan Osman [RIP])
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D0P9aPu51A

I was wondering how long it would be before someone posted one of Dan's
videos - nutter that he was! (saw footage of one ascent he did - over
taking some "traditional" climbers half way up. They took 2 hours to do
the ascent, he did it in under six minutes!


Bloody hell - that guy is basically a human spider!

I couldn't ascend a set of stairs of the same height that quickly! Not
only is he a genius climber, but if you think about the potential energy
involved, he is rediculously fit too!

Not 'is', but 'was', sadly:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Osman

David

On 18/09/2010 08:16, Roger Chapman wrote:
On 18/09/2010 01:47, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember
saying something like:

What's that prog on TV where they climb the rigging and stand aloft? Now
that would scare me.

Hornblower, final scene in one of the early episodes. Helicopter shot,
rather well done, from close-up to pulling away into the distance.

Probably stuffed left right and centre with hidden safety features.

Pete mentioned up-thread about going aloft on a square rigger but back
in the days when that was commonplace there was no safety gear.

And not so long ago when HMS Ganges (stone frigate at Shotley) was
operational as a training school for boy sailors they used to dress the
mast at the passing out parade with one boy standing on the button.

They used to do it at the Royal Tournament at Earl's Court too, until it
was shelved 11 years ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhj9WcdXMqo

I saw it once - quite a spectacle.
I see it's being revived again this year: http://www.royaltournament.org/

David

On 17/09/2010 22:29, Huge wrote:
On 2010-09-17, wrote:

Blackpool tower is quite close by and they have fitted a glass panel in
the floor of the observation platform. I'm not sure if I could stand on
this, due to it being an old tower, but a new panel, so I'm not going up
there :-(

The CN tower ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cn_tower

... has a glass floored observation gallery. I've stood on it;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CNTowerNastyFall.jpg

BTDTGTTS - see my gut and grubby trainers here!:
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6961/img2080mediumv.jpg

You still wouldn't get me to climb up the outside!

Indeed - I really don't like heights at all; but the glass floor didn't
bother me in the slightest whereas I'd rather shoot myself than climb
that antenna tower.

David

Huge wrote:
On 2010-09-17, Pete Verdon
d wrote:
Dave wrote:

What's that prog on TV where they climb the rigging and stand
aloft? Now that would scare me.

Not sure what you mean. Stand on the masthead?

That's called "Dressing (or Manning) the mast (or yards)"
[...]There's some poor sod (the "button boy") who gets to stand on
the very top. [...] http://www.sloproom.co.uk/mast.htm

Ah, I see. On our ship, being on the yards in any other way than
standing on the footrope is forbidden, so no standing on top of it like
they are in that picture. Although I have done when working on things up
there, probably serving and blacking. The rules aren't as strictly
applied to Deckhands doing maintenance, compared to Voyage Crew.

Pete

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Roger Chapman
saying something like:

Seems its on the net as well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htmC__eg8hc

**** that.
Still, I'm glad that some were mad enough.

Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
saying something like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htmC__eg8hc

**** that.
Still, I'm glad that some were mad enough.

I agree the "button boy" part is a bit mental, but the rest of it really
isn't all that hard. What I hadn't appreciated at first was that they
have a line at waist height above the yards for the guys stood on them
to hold onto. That would actually work out quite comfy, compared to the
footropes which do my back in after a while (especially with novices
leaning backwards instead of forwards).

One of the links posted mentioned that the Shotley mast was only
compulsory as high as the crosstrees or "half moon" - going any higher
was volunteers only.

None of the videos I've seen show the button boy actually getting into
place; I can't imagine getting onto the top of something like that with
nothing above it to hold onto, and I'd be curious to see the technique.

Pete

Huge wrote:

The CN tower ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cn_tower

... has a glass floored observation gallery. I've stood on it;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CNTowerNastyFall.jpg

You still wouldn't get me to climb up the outside!

I've never been good with heights, but recall, during a spell
(years ago) at Eggborough power station, visiting the boiler
house. The floor at 135 ft was open mesh. If you looked down, as
you moved, it blurred and disappeared. The only solution, to
avoid tripping over stuff, was to look far enough away that it
appeared solid.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

On 19/09/2010 02:57, Pete Verdon wrote:
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
saying something like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htmC__eg8hc

**** that. Still, I'm glad that some were mad enough.

I agree the "button boy" part is a bit mental, but the rest of it really
isn't all that hard. What I hadn't appreciated at first was that they
have a line at waist height above the yards for the guys stood on them
to hold onto. That would actually work out quite comfy, compared to the
footropes which do my back in after a while (especially with novices
leaning backwards instead of forwards).

One of the links posted mentioned that the Shotley mast was only
compulsory as high as the crosstrees or "half moon" - going any higher
was volunteers only.

At 130 feet on the 142 foot high mast.

None of the videos I've seen show the button boy actually getting into
place; I can't imagine getting onto the top of something like that with
nothing above it to hold onto, and I'd be curious to see the technique.

Tricky. There is a rock climbing technique called mantleshelfing that
might suffice but the mast button has considerably less width than is
usually available on a mantle shelf or even on a rock face. It would be
easy enough (ignoring the exposure) if the button was a bit bigger (as
anyone who has bothered to stand on the actual summit of Tryfan in
Snowdonia will know).

On 19/09/2010 02:57, Pete Verdon wrote:
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
saying something like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htmC__eg8hc

**** that. Still, I'm glad that some were mad enough.

I agree the "button boy" part is a bit mental, but the rest of it really
isn't all that hard. What I hadn't appreciated at first was that they
have a line at waist height above the yards for the guys stood on them
to hold onto. That would actually work out quite comfy, compared to the
footropes which do my back in after a while (especially with novices
leaning backwards instead of forwards).

One of the links posted mentioned that the Shotley mast was only
compulsory as high as the crosstrees or "half moon" - going any higher
was volunteers only.

None of the videos I've seen show the button boy actually getting into
place; I can't imagine getting onto the top of something like that with
nothing above it to hold onto, and I'd be curious to see the technique.

It was reasonable clear in mine I thought (at 3'30")
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhj9WcdXMqo) - the process being made
somewhat more scary by being performed in discrete movements in time to
the music!

On 19/09/10 10:02, Lobster wrote:
On 19/09/2010 02:57, Pete Verdon wrote:
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
saying something like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htmC__eg8hc

**** that. Still, I'm glad that some were mad enough.

I agree the "button boy" part is a bit mental, but the rest of it really
isn't all that hard. What I hadn't appreciated at first was that they
have a line at waist height above the yards for the guys stood on them
to hold onto. That would actually work out quite comfy, compared to the
footropes which do my back in after a while (especially with novices
leaning backwards instead of forwards).

One of the links posted mentioned that the Shotley mast was only
compulsory as high as the crosstrees or "half moon" - going any higher
was volunteers only.

None of the videos I've seen show the button boy actually getting into
place; I can't imagine getting onto the top of something like that with
nothing above it to hold onto, and I'd be curious to see the technique.

It was reasonable clear in mine I thought (at 3'30")
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhj9WcdXMqo) - the process being made
somewhat more scary by being performed in discrete movements in time to
the music!

He's leaning on a pole!

On 19/09/2010 10:07, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/09/10 10:02, Lobster wrote:
On 19/09/2010 02:57, Pete Verdon wrote:
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
saying something like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htmC__eg8hc

**** that. Still, I'm glad that some were mad enough.

I agree the "button boy" part is a bit mental, but the rest of it really
isn't all that hard. What I hadn't appreciated at first was that they
have a line at waist height above the yards for the guys stood on them
to hold onto. That would actually work out quite comfy, compared to the
footropes which do my back in after a while (especially with novices
leaning backwards instead of forwards).

One of the links posted mentioned that the Shotley mast was only
compulsory as high as the crosstrees or "half moon" - going any higher
was volunteers only.

None of the videos I've seen show the button boy actually getting into
place; I can't imagine getting onto the top of something like that with
nothing above it to hold onto, and I'd be curious to see the technique.

It was reasonable clear in mine I thought (at 3'30")
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhj9WcdXMqo) - the process being made
somewhat more scary by being performed in discrete movements in time to
the music!

He's leaning on a pole!

AFAIUI the Ganges mast had that too though: it's a lightning conductor:
http://www.nmm.ac.uk/library/2008/01/button_boys_1.html

David

In article , Roger Chapman
scribeth thus
On 19/09/2010 02:57, Pete Verdon wrote:
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
saying something like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htmC__eg8hc

**** that. Still, I'm glad that some were mad enough.

I agree the "button boy" part is a bit mental, but the rest of it really
isn't all that hard. What I hadn't appreciated at first was that they
have a line at waist height above the yards for the guys stood on them
to hold onto. That would actually work out quite comfy, compared to the
footropes which do my back in after a while (especially with novices
leaning backwards instead of forwards).

One of the links posted mentioned that the Shotley mast was only
compulsory as high as the crosstrees or "half moon" - going any higher
was volunteers only.

At 130 feet on the 142 foot high mast.

None of the videos I've seen show the button boy actually getting into
place; I can't imagine getting onto the top of something like that with
nothing above it to hold onto, and I'd be curious to see the technique.


I think that lightning conductor on the top of the mast is a lot thicker
and stronger than it might appear from the ground...
--
Tony Sayer

In article , Tim Watts
scribeth thus
On 19/09/10 10:02, Lobster wrote:
On 19/09/2010 02:57, Pete Verdon wrote:
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
saying something like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htmC__eg8hc

**** that. Still, I'm glad that some were mad enough.

I agree the "button boy" part is a bit mental, but the rest of it really
isn't all that hard. What I hadn't appreciated at first was that they
have a line at waist height above the yards for the guys stood on them
to hold onto. That would actually work out quite comfy, compared to the
footropes which do my back in after a while (especially with novices
leaning backwards instead of forwards).

One of the links posted mentioned that the Shotley mast was only
compulsory as high as the crosstrees or "half moon" - going any higher
was volunteers only.

None of the videos I've seen show the button boy actually getting into
place; I can't imagine getting onto the top of something like that with
nothing above it to hold onto, and I'd be curious to see the technique.

It was reasonable clear in mine I thought (at 3'30")
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhj9WcdXMqo) - the process being made
somewhat more scary by being performed in discrete movements in time to
the music!

He's leaning on a pole!


Course like all these scary ascents and climbs and roads and walkways
slung across the side of a mountain .. but BIG respect for the brave
blokes who built them up there in the first place!..

They don't seem to get any recognition;!...
--
Tony Sayer

"Lobster" wrote in message
...
On 19/09/2010 10:07, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/09/10 10:02, Lobster wrote:
On 19/09/2010 02:57, Pete Verdon wrote:
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
saying something like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htmC__eg8hc

**** that. Still, I'm glad that some were mad enough.

I agree the "button boy" part is a bit mental, but the rest of it
really
isn't all that hard. What I hadn't appreciated at first was that they
have a line at waist height above the yards for the guys stood on them
to hold onto. That would actually work out quite comfy, compared to the
footropes which do my back in after a while (especially with novices
leaning backwards instead of forwards).

One of the links posted mentioned that the Shotley mast was only
compulsory as high as the crosstrees or "half moon" - going any higher
was volunteers only.

None of the videos I've seen show the button boy actually getting into
place; I can't imagine getting onto the top of something like that with
nothing above it to hold onto, and I'd be curious to see the technique.

It was reasonable clear in mine I thought (at 3'30")
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhj9WcdXMqo) - the process being made
somewhat more scary by being performed in discrete movements in time to
the music!

He's leaning on a pole!

AFAIUI the Ganges mast had that too though: it's a lightning conductor:
http://www.nmm.ac.uk/library/2008/01/button_boys_1.html

If you watch the link posted by David Chapman
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htmC__eg8hc) at 3:05 to 3:12 it doesn't
look like there is anything atop the button.

Regards,

On 19/09/2010 10:42, Lobster wrote:
On 19/09/2010 10:07, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/09/10 10:02, Lobster wrote:
On 19/09/2010 02:57, Pete Verdon wrote:
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
saying something like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htmC__eg8hc

**** that. Still, I'm glad that some were mad enough.

I agree the "button boy" part is a bit mental, but the rest of it
really
isn't all that hard. What I hadn't appreciated at first was that they
have a line at waist height above the yards for the guys stood on them
to hold onto. That would actually work out quite comfy, compared to the
footropes which do my back in after a while (especially with novices
leaning backwards instead of forwards).

One of the links posted mentioned that the Shotley mast was only
compulsory as high as the crosstrees or "half moon" - going any higher
was volunteers only.

None of the videos I've seen show the button boy actually getting into
place; I can't imagine getting onto the top of something like that with
nothing above it to hold onto, and I'd be curious to see the technique.

It was reasonable clear in mine I thought (at 3'30")
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhj9WcdXMqo) - the process being made
somewhat more scary by being performed in discrete movements in time to
the music!

He's leaning on a pole!


He also had a ladder right to the top.

AFAIUI the Ganges mast had that too though: it's a lightning conductor:
http://www.nmm.ac.uk/library/2008/01/button_boys_1.html

Not very visible on the video but could possibly be short and just about
seen for an instant between the button boy's legs. Such a handhold would
had it significantly easier to mount the button.

There is another difference between the North Sea Cowboys (as we used to
call them) who were taught to rely on the shrouds and never use the rat
lines for handholds and the modern display team resolutely grasping
their rigid hand/footholds as they mounted the rigging.

On 19/09/10 11:29, Him & Her wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 19/09/2010 10:07, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/09/10 10:02, Lobster wrote:
On 19/09/2010 02:57, Pete Verdon wrote:
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
saying something like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htmC__eg8hc

**** that. Still, I'm glad that some were mad enough.

I agree the "button boy" part is a bit mental, but the rest of it
really
isn't all that hard. What I hadn't appreciated at first was that they
have a line at waist height above the yards for the guys stood on them
to hold onto. That would actually work out quite comfy, compared to the
footropes which do my back in after a while (especially with novices
leaning backwards instead of forwards).

One of the links posted mentioned that the Shotley mast was only
compulsory as high as the crosstrees or "half moon" - going any higher
was volunteers only.

None of the videos I've seen show the button boy actually getting into
place; I can't imagine getting onto the top of something like that with
nothing above it to hold onto, and I'd be curious to see the technique.

It was reasonable clear in mine I thought (at 3'30")
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhj9WcdXMqo) - the process being made
somewhat more scary by being performed in discrete movements in time to
the music!

He's leaning on a pole!

AFAIUI the Ganges mast had that too though: it's a lightning conductor:
http://www.nmm.ac.uk/library/2008/01/button_boys_1.html

If you watch the link posted by David Chapman
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htmC__eg8hc) at 3:05 to 3:12 it doesn't
look like there is anything atop the button.

Regards,


No - 3:40 - there is definately a pole perhaps 2-3" dia, white, upto
his groin which he appears to be holding onto with his knees.

It's hard to see due to being white against white trousers.

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
Snip
No - 3:40 - there is definately a pole perhaps 2-3" dia, white, upto his
groin which he appears to be holding onto with his knees.

It's hard to see due to being white against white trousers.

Yeah, I saw that part of the clip and it does look like there's something
there but it's not visible during the climb. 3:08 to 3:11 is a fairly clear
shot of the button and *I* can't see anything there.

Regards,

On 19/09/2010 12:55, Him & Her wrote:
"Tim wrote in message
...
Snip
No - 3:40 - there is definately a pole perhaps 2-3" dia, white, upto his
groin which he appears to be holding onto with his knees.

It's hard to see due to being white against white trousers.

Yeah, I saw that part of the clip and it does look like there's something
there but it's not visible during the climb. 3:08 to 3:11 is a fairly clear
shot of the button and *I* can't see anything there.

Actually I beg to differ! If I put the video to full screen - which
emphasises the poor video quality - there's an instant at 3:10 (if you
blink you'll miss it! where what I think is the lightning conductor
flashes into view. Either that or a film artefact. It's clearly present
at 3:40, as explained above - presumably the rod is so narrow that it's
beyond the resolution of the film when at long shot.

David

In article , John
Rumm scribeth thus
On 19/09/2010 11:16, tony sayer wrote:
In , Roger Chapman
scribeth thus
On 19/09/2010 02:57, Pete Verdon wrote:
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
saying something like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htmC__eg8hc

**** that. Still, I'm glad that some were mad enough.

I agree the "button boy" part is a bit mental, but the rest of it really
isn't all that hard. What I hadn't appreciated at first was that they
have a line at waist height above the yards for the guys stood on them
to hold onto. That would actually work out quite comfy, compared to the
footropes which do my back in after a while (especially with novices
leaning backwards instead of forwards).

One of the links posted mentioned that the Shotley mast was only
compulsory as high as the crosstrees or "half moon" - going any higher
was volunteers only.

At 130 feet on the 142 foot high mast.

None of the videos I've seen show the button boy actually getting into
place; I can't imagine getting onto the top of something like that with
nothing above it to hold onto, and I'd be curious to see the technique.


I think that lightning conductor on the top of the mast is a lot thicker
and stronger than it might appear from the ground...

The royal tatoo video showed the button with some 5' of mast protruding
above it - so the bod on top stood in front of it and helt onto it
behind him.

Yep!, He'd look a right Dick Tar the other way...
--
Tony Sayer

Lobster wrote in message
...
On 19/09/2010 12:55, Him & Her wrote:
"Tim wrote in message
...
Snip
No - 3:40 - there is definately a pole perhaps 2-3" dia, white, upto
his
groin which he appears to be holding onto with his knees.

It's hard to see due to being white against white trousers.

Yeah, I saw that part of the clip and it does look like there's something
there but it's not visible during the climb. 3:08 to 3:11 is a fairly
clear
shot of the button and *I* can't see anything there.

Actually I beg to differ! If I put the video to full screen - which
emphasises the poor video quality - there's an instant at 3:10 (if you
blink you'll miss it! where what I think is the lightning conductor
flashes into view. Either that or a film artefact. It's clearly present
at 3:40, as explained above - presumably the rod is so narrow that it's
beyond the resolution of the film when at long shot.

I did say *I* couldn't see anything. Either way, he's got a bigger set of
steel one's than me. Nothing would possess me to be up there!

Regards,

"John Rumm" wrote in message
o.uk...
Snip
What, not even for a shilling? ;-)

Hmm, that's a difficult choice.

There's a very short list of things I really want in my life and even on a
promise of all of them, I wouldn't

Regards,

Lobster wrote:
On 19/09/2010 02:57, Pete Verdon wrote:

None of the videos I've seen show the button boy actually getting into
place;

It was reasonable clear in mine I thought (at 3'30")
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhj9WcdXMqo)

Yep - I hadn't seen that one.

That's a different mast though, being a portable exhibition one. It
looks shorter than the Shotley mast.

Pete

"John Rumm" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 19/09/2010 18:02, Him & Her wrote:
"John wrote in message
o.uk...
Snip
What, not even for a shilling? ;-)

Hmm, that's a difficult choice.

There's a very short list of things I really want in my life and even on
a
promise of all of them, I wouldn't

Oddly climbing something like that I suspect I would quite enjoy doing
(not that for a moment am I suggesting I have the fitness required to
actually do it!). As with most activities working at height, once you go
past a few tens of feet the outcome of a fall is much the same - all that
changes is the amount of time you get to dwell on the mistake.

Anything I climb these days needs to come complete with a (proper) ladder
and probably not be higher than my house. I was better when I was younger
but still wasn't *that* daft :-)

Regards,

On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:02:11 +0100, Lobster wrote:

the process being made somewhat more scary by being performed in
discrete movements in time to the music!

Well in the pauses you have a chance to adjust your grip and get
properly ready for the next move. Not watched the vid yet but if it's
how I think it is each move is fairly small and self contained single
movement.

--
Cheers
Dave.

In article , Huge
scribeth thus
On 2010-09-16, tony sayer wrote:
In article , Huge
scribeth thus
On 2010-09-16, Mike Harrison wrote:
Scariest thing I've ever seen - watch in fullscreen or full effect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uccjrp5NRYE

Do a Google Image Search for "empire state building antenna workers". The
first image is ... interesting.

(I'd supply a URL to it, but Google seem to have f*cked up image search. "Do
no evil", my arse.)



I think the bit of video, which I had somewhere, has Tom Silliman ( what
a name) doing a repair up there at night the only time they'd let him do
that job!.

Still here he is here in daylight attending to An Alan Dick spearhead
type wideband mixed polarisation VHF/FM array!....

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...kJodXt1Ly_uJYA

*That's* the photo I was talking about!


Huge..

Remember this thread?. I've just found the bit of vid on this called
"Mending Skyscrapers" I'll mail it over to you if you can give me a
valid address..

Cheers..
--
Tony Sayer

In article ,
tony sayer wrote:

Huge..

Remember this thread?. I've just found the bit of vid on this called
"Mending Skyscrapers" I'll mail it over to you if you can give me a
valid address..

Turnpike strikes again...

--
*Virtual reality is its own reward*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:

Huge..

Remember this thread?. I've just found the bit of vid on this called
"Mending Skyscrapers" I'll mail it over to you if you can give me a
valid address..

Turnpike strikes again...


Nah!, its user who's got a bl^^dy cold on the go;!....
--
Tony Sayer

Mike Harrison :
Scariest thing I've ever seen - watch in fullscreen or full effect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uccjrp5NRYE

"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by
TheOnLineEngineer.org."

Shame.

Incidentally, not having a go at you personally, but whatever happened
to just "safety"? Nowadays the world seems unable to say "safety"
without "health and" in front of it, even when the subject is nothing to
do with health. At least I assume the video isn't about health - I
haven't seen it. :-(

--
Mike Barnes

On 24/11/10 18:26, Mike Barnes wrote:
Mike Harrison :
Scariest thing I've ever seen - watch in fullscreen or full effect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uccjrp5NRYE

"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by
TheOnLineEngineer.org."

Shame.

Incidentally, not having a go at you personally, but whatever happened
to just "safety"? Nowadays the world seems unable to say "safety"
without "health and" in front of it, even when the subject is nothing to
do with health. At least I assume the video isn't about health - I
haven't seen it. :-(



elfin safety, someone has to think of the poor elves.



--
djc

On 24/11/2010 18:26, Mike Barnes wrote:
Mike :
Scariest thing I've ever seen - watch in fullscreen or full effect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uccjrp5NRYE

"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by
TheOnLineEngineer.org."

Shame.


It went pretty viral - probably worth a search on youtube

John Rumm :
On 24/11/2010 18:26, Mike Barnes wrote:
Mike :
Scariest thing I've ever seen - watch in fullscreen or full effect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uccjrp5NRYE

"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by
TheOnLineEngineer.org."

Shame.

Ere you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQzPB7RkFKA

[Gulp]

I guess those men must have simply *no* fear of heights. If they had any
fear at all, the extreme height and lack of protection would render them
incapable of doing anything useful.

What's more scary is the thought of climbing down again, when you'd be
forced to look down and it would be nowhere near as easy to see where
you were putting your feet.

--
Mike Barnes

John Rumm :
On 24/11/2010 23:00, Mike Barnes wrote:
John :
On 24/11/2010 18:26, Mike Barnes wrote:
Mike :
Scariest thing I've ever seen - watch in fullscreen or full effect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uccjrp5NRYE

"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by
TheOnLineEngineer.org."

Shame.

Ere you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQzPB7RkFKA

[Gulp]

I guess those men must have simply *no* fear of heights. If they had any
fear at all, the extreme height and lack of protection would render them
incapable of doing anything useful.

What's more scary is the thought of climbing down again, when you'd be
forced to look down and it would be nowhere near as easy to see where
you were putting your feet.

Perhaps its just the realisation that once you are over 30' the outcome
is much the same if you fall off. The only variable is how long you get
to contemplate the mistake!

For most people that realisation doesn't do you much good, and I'd say
the border line was rather higher than that. Vertiginous feelings aren't
purely the result of rational thought.

--
Mike Barnes

In message , John
Rumm writes
On 24/11/2010 23:00, Mike Barnes wrote:
John :
On 24/11/2010 18:26, Mike Barnes wrote:
Mike :
Scariest thing I've ever seen - watch in fullscreen or full effect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uccjrp5NRYE

"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by
TheOnLineEngineer.org."

Shame.

Ere you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQzPB7RkFKA

[Gulp]

I guess those men must have simply *no* fear of heights. If they had any
fear at all, the extreme height and lack of protection would render them
incapable of doing anything useful.

What's more scary is the thought of climbing down again, when you'd be
forced to look down and it would be nowhere near as easy to see where
you were putting your feet.

Perhaps its just the realisation that once you are over 30' the outcome
is much the same if you fall off. The only variable is how long you get
to contemplate the mistake!

Yes, but really, why would you?

You're just climbing a ladder, albeit there are a few obstacles on this
tower, but you just put one hand after another, one foot after another.
Once you get over "having the willies" its just a long hard slog to the
top


--
geoff

On 16/09/2010 23:36, Lobster wrote:
On 16/09/2010 12:28, Vortex7 wrote:
On 16/09/2010 10:02, Mike Harrison wrote:
Scariest thing I've ever seen - watch in fullscreen or full effect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uccjrp5NRYE

...well that made my arse "wink".

But I think this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmDhRvvs5Xw is on a par
with it.

Or how about this one (speed free-climber Dan Osman [RIP])
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D0P9aPu51A



Yes.

As we say, there are old climbers, and there are bold climbers. But
there are no old, bold climbers.

--
Ron