Hi,

Just returned empty-handed from B&Q and Homebase as it seems the Dulux
mixed-to-your-own-colour range has been changed to have only water-based
products now. As a long-time and very satisfied user of their Satinwood
product (and the Permoglaze Satin Finish which was/is also very good) I'm
not having that, especially if it's anything like their old water-based
"Quick Drying Satinwood" which, apart from Dulux "Once", was The Worst Paint
I Have Ever Used.

So, which of the "trade" paint suppliers still supply anything that's at all
good? My requirements are - SATIN finish, Solvent based, Tinting machine
colours available. The Permoglaze site is down so can't check that. Leyland
and/or Johnstone still seem to do some, and are apparently working on new
solvent-based versions that will be compliant with the new regulations -
seems these particular regulations have slipped in with minimal publicity
leaving possibly inferior products for us DIYers.

Are any of the "trade" counters DIYer-friendly nowadays? Last time I went to
Brewers their ticket prices seemed unbelievably high, I'm guessing with a
substantial discount for "trade" customers. I need to try my local "Cane
Adam" and Johnstone's Leyland centres tomorrow - has anyone had any luck
with these? I have been spoiled for a long time by working very near a small
shop called Professional Traders in Sunbury, and got all my Permoglaze
supplies there - very pleased with the service and they didn't discriminate
particularly against DIY customers pricewise. Sadly BT decided they didn't
want me to work there after September so I lost my handy
walkable-at-lunchtime supplier. (It's a 72 mile round trip if I need to pop
over there now.) Ho hum.

Any advice welcome!

Thanks,
Simon.

On 20/12/2009 16:25, Simon Stroud wrote:
Hi,

Just returned empty-handed from B&Q and Homebase as it seems the Dulux
mixed-to-your-own-colour range has been changed to have only water-based
products now. As a long-time and very satisfied user of their Satinwood
product (and the Permoglaze Satin Finish which was/is also very good) I'm
not having that, especially if it's anything like their old water-based
"Quick Drying Satinwood" which, apart from Dulux "Once", was The Worst Paint
I Have Ever Used.

So, which of the "trade" paint suppliers still supply anything that's at all
good? My requirements are - SATIN finish, Solvent based, Tinting machine
colours available. The Permoglaze site is down so can't check that. Leyland
and/or Johnstone still seem to do some, and are apparently working on new
solvent-based versions that will be compliant with the new regulations -
seems these particular regulations have slipped in with minimal publicity
leaving possibly inferior products for us DIYers.

Are any of the "trade" counters DIYer-friendly nowadays? Last time I went to
Brewers their ticket prices seemed unbelievably high, I'm guessing with a
substantial discount for "trade" customers. I need to try my local "Cane
Adam" and Johnstone's Leyland centres tomorrow - has anyone had any luck
with these? I have been spoiled for a long time by working very near a small
shop called Professional Traders in Sunbury, and got all my Permoglaze
supplies there - very pleased with the service and they didn't discriminate
particularly against DIY customers pricewise. Sadly BT decided they didn't
want me to work there after September so I lost my handy
walkable-at-lunchtime supplier. (It's a 72 mile round trip if I need to pop
over there now.) Ho hum.

Any advice welcome!

Thanks,
Simon.


I am not trade and have had no problems getting small (even tester size)
mixed at Johnstone/Leyland centre in Slough.[1] They do indeed still do
a solvent-based satin.

[1] Friendly, helpful service both before and after producing my staff
card - I work for the same group of companies but in an entirely
separate area. No intentional bias.

--
Rod

"Rod" wrote in message
...
On 20/12/2009 16:25, Simon Stroud wrote:
Hi,

Just returned empty-handed from B&Q and Homebase as it seems the Dulux
mixed-to-your-own-colour range has been changed to have only water-based
products now. As a long-time and very satisfied user of their Satinwood
product (and the Permoglaze Satin Finish which was/is also very good) I'm
not having that, especially if it's anything like their old water-based
"Quick Drying Satinwood" which, apart from Dulux "Once", was The Worst
Paint
I Have Ever Used.

So, which of the "trade" paint suppliers still supply anything that's at
all
good? My requirements are - SATIN finish, Solvent based, Tinting machine
colours available. The Permoglaze site is down so can't check that.
Leyland
and/or Johnstone still seem to do some, and are apparently working on new
solvent-based versions that will be compliant with the new regulations -
seems these particular regulations have slipped in with minimal publicity
leaving possibly inferior products for us DIYers.

Are any of the "trade" counters DIYer-friendly nowadays? Last time I went
to
Brewers their ticket prices seemed unbelievably high, I'm guessing with a
substantial discount for "trade" customers. I need to try my local "Cane
Adam" and Johnstone's Leyland centres tomorrow - has anyone had any luck
with these? I have been spoiled for a long time by working very near a
small
shop called Professional Traders in Sunbury, and got all my Permoglaze
supplies there - very pleased with the service and they didn't
discriminate
particularly against DIY customers pricewise. Sadly BT decided they
didn't
want me to work there after September so I lost my handy
walkable-at-lunchtime supplier. (It's a 72 mile round trip if I need to
pop
over there now.) Ho hum.

Any advice welcome!

Thanks,
Simon.


I am not trade and have had no problems getting small (even tester size)
mixed at Johnstone/Leyland centre in Slough.[1] They do indeed still do a
solvent-based satin.

[1] Friendly, helpful service both before and after producing my staff
card - I work for the same group of companies but in an entirely separate
area. No intentional bias.

--
Rod

Satin is a superb finish. Can't understand why more people don't use it. I
have satin doors and gloss frames. Looks great.

"Rod" wrote in message
...
On 20/12/2009 16:25, Simon Stroud wrote:
Hi,

Just returned empty-handed from B&Q and Homebase as it seems the Dulux
mixed-to-your-own-colour range has been changed to have only water-based
products now. As a long-time and very satisfied user of their Satinwood
product (and the Permoglaze Satin Finish which was/is also very good) I'm
not having that, especially if it's anything like their old water-based
"Quick Drying Satinwood" which, apart from Dulux "Once", was The Worst
Paint
I Have Ever Used.

So, which of the "trade" paint suppliers still supply anything that's at
all
good? My requirements are - SATIN finish, Solvent based, Tinting machine
colours available. The Permoglaze site is down so can't check that.
Leyland
and/or Johnstone still seem to do some, and are apparently working on new
solvent-based versions that will be compliant with the new regulations -
seems these particular regulations have slipped in with minimal publicity
leaving possibly inferior products for us DIYers.

Are any of the "trade" counters DIYer-friendly nowadays? Last time I went
to
Brewers their ticket prices seemed unbelievably high, I'm guessing with a
substantial discount for "trade" customers. I need to try my local "Cane
Adam" and Johnstone's Leyland centres tomorrow - has anyone had any luck
with these? I have been spoiled for a long time by working very near a
small
shop called Professional Traders in Sunbury, and got all my Permoglaze
supplies there - very pleased with the service and they didn't
discriminate
particularly against DIY customers pricewise. Sadly BT decided they
didn't
want me to work there after September so I lost my handy
walkable-at-lunchtime supplier. (It's a 72 mile round trip if I need to
pop
over there now.) Ho hum.

Any advice welcome!

Thanks,
Simon.


I am not trade and have had no problems getting small (even tester size)
mixed at Johnstone/Leyland centre in Slough.[1] They do indeed still do a
solvent-based satin.

[1] Friendly, helpful service both before and after producing my staff
card - I work for the same group of companies but in an entirely separate
area. No intentional bias.

--
Rod

Thanks Rod,

I'll give them a try if I can't find anything more local (the nearest one is
in Newbury and I'm in Basingstoke so not TOO far).

Regards,
Simon.

On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:25:51 -0000, "Simon Stroud"
wrote:



Are any of the "trade" counters DIYer-friendly nowadays? Last time I went to
Brewers their ticket prices seemed unbelievably high, I'm guessing with a
substantial discount for "trade" customers. I need to try my local "Cane
Adam" and Johnstone's Leyland centres tomorrow - has anyone had any luck
with these? I have been spoiled for a long time by working very near a small
shop called Professional Traders in Sunbury, and got all my Permoglaze
supplies there - very pleased with the service and they didn't discriminate
particularly against DIY customers pricewise. Sadly BT decided they didn't
want me to work there after September so I lost my handy
walkable-at-lunchtime supplier. (It's a 72 mile round trip if I need to pop
over there now.) Ho hum.

If you are not already sorted try the Crown Decorator Centre, nearest
to you seems to be at 2 Arkwright Road, Reading RG2.

"Simon Stroud" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Just returned empty-handed from B&Q and Homebase as it seems the Dulux
mixed-to-your-own-colour range has been changed to have only water-based
products now. As a long-time and very satisfied user of their Satinwood
product (and the Permoglaze Satin Finish which was/is also very good) I'm
not having that, especially if it's anything like their old water-based
"Quick Drying Satinwood" which, apart from Dulux "Once", was The Worst
Paint I Have Ever Used.

So, which of the "trade" paint suppliers still supply anything that's at
all good? My requirements are - SATIN finish, Solvent based, Tinting
machine colours available. The Permoglaze site is down so can't check
that. Leyland and/or Johnstone still seem to do some, and are apparently
working on new solvent-based versions that will be compliant with the new
regulations - seems these particular regulations have slipped in with
minimal publicity leaving possibly inferior products for us DIYers.

Are any of the "trade" counters DIYer-friendly nowadays? Last time I went
to Brewers their ticket prices seemed unbelievably high, I'm guessing with
a substantial discount for "trade" customers. I need to try my local "Cane
Adam" and Johnstone's Leyland centres tomorrow - has anyone had any luck
with these? I have been spoiled for a long time by working very near a
small shop called Professional Traders in Sunbury, and got all my
Permoglaze supplies there - very pleased with the service and they didn't
discriminate particularly against DIY customers pricewise. Sadly BT
decided they didn't want me to work there after September so I lost my
handy walkable-at-lunchtime supplier. (It's a 72 mile round trip if I need
to pop over there now.) Ho hum.

Any advice welcome!

Thanks,
Simon.


Thanks everyone.

It turns out that Brewers still do "proper" Dulux Satinwood in the Dulux
Trade range, so problem sorted.

Regards,
Simon.