Ah - the joys of crap councils...

Having been used to a council that takes anything papery and cardboardy in
the paper bin (even food wrappings), anything plasticky (even food wraps)
in the plastic bin (+ cans) and food waste, including meat, in the garden
bin - I discover the joys of Rother Council:

Little bin 1: Types 1,2 + 3 plastics (most drinks bottles but not many
cartons, eg yoghurt which are mostly Type 6 for me) + cans (but no jar
lids)

Little bin 2: white paper. Literally. No card and even the plastic windows
of envelopes must be removed.

Garden bin: no peelings (WTF?!), definitely no food waste.

And to boot, the random bin is only 180l instead of 240l for a fortnightly
collection.

No local drops for cardboard. Station car park takes glass (good), but the
same paper and plastics as my own bins (the point of that being?...) and no
cardboard...

Rather than fight such pathetic uselessness head on[1], I gave up and got
one of these:

http://www.trashbasher.co.uk/

(No connection etc, can be got cheaper at many places).

Seems to work very well. Being DIY, I should have made my own, but without a
welder or a heavy tube bender, it would be hard to make something so simple
and elegant.

Problem solved...

[1] This will be remembered at the next local elections and used to beat
candidates over the head with...

I'll get rid of the paper bin and garden bins next. Poor paper bin only has
2 envelopes in the bottom. And I'll have composting up and running soon so
that will take a lot of kitchen waste... Cardboard will probably be kept as
fire lighting material.


--
Tim Watts

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Tim W wrote:

http://www.trashbasher.co.uk/

(No connection etc, can be got cheaper at many places).

Seems to work very well. Being DIY, I should have made my own, but without a
welder or a heavy tube bender, it would be hard to make something so simple
and elegant.


I climb a nearby wall, open the bin and carefully jump up and down on
the things what's inside. They haven't tipped me into the collection
dust cart just yet :-)

--
Adrian C

Adrian C
wibbled on Friday 13 November 2009 12:50


I climb a nearby wall, open the bin and carefully jump up and down on
the things what's inside. They haven't tipped me into the collection
dust cart just yet :-)


I've done that before, but I don't fancy it in the rain and the bin is a bit
narrower than normal so more chance of falling over/off.

--
Tim Watts

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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:39:45 +0000, Tim W wrote:

Adrian C
wibbled on Friday 13 November 2009 12:50


I climb a nearby wall, open the bin and carefully jump up and down on
the things what's inside. They haven't tipped me into the collection
dust cart just yet :-)


I've done that before, but I don't fancy it in the rain and the bin is a bit
narrower than normal so more chance of falling over/off.

I remember reading a newspaper story a year or two ago about a guy who died
after falling while jumping on the rubbish in his wheely bin.

SteveW

Steve Walker
wibbled on Friday 13 November 2009 22:28

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:39:45 +0000, Tim W wrote:

Adrian C
wibbled on Friday 13 November 2009 12:50


I climb a nearby wall, open the bin and carefully jump up and down on
the things what's inside. They haven't tipped me into the collection
dust cart just yet :-)


I've done that before, but I don't fancy it in the rain and the bin is a
bit narrower than normal so more chance of falling over/off.

I remember reading a newspaper story a year or two ago about a guy who
died after falling while jumping on the rubbish in his wheely bin.

SteveW

Maintaining parity with hot coffee and home electrics, maybe they should ban
wheely bins?

--
Tim Watts

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Tim W wrote:
Adrian C
wibbled on Friday 13 November 2009 12:50


I climb a nearby wall, open the bin and carefully jump up and down on
the things what's inside. They haven't tipped me into the collection
dust cart just yet :-)


I've done that before, but I don't fancy it in the rain and the bin is a bit
narrower than normal so more chance of falling over/off.


I use my 13-year-old son: much safer.

Dvaid

On 13 Nov, 12:42, Tim W wrote:

http://www.trashbasher.co.uk/

Seems to work very well. Being DIY, I should have made my own, but without a
welder or a heavy tube bender, it would be hard to make something so simple
and elegant.

I've got both, but I've also got 25 quid and no spare time. Looks like
a good gadget and a sensible price.

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:51:08 -0800 (PST), Andy Dingley wrote:

On 13 Nov, 12:42, Tim W wrote:

http://www.trashbasher.co.uk/

Seems to work very well. Being DIY, I should have made my own, but without a
welder or a heavy tube bender, it would be hard to make something so simple
and elegant.

I've got both, but I've also got 25 quid and no spare time. Looks like
a good gadget and a sensible price.

Fifteen quid at Maplin.

SteveW

"Steve Walker" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:51:08 -0800 (PST), Andy Dingley wrote:

On 13 Nov, 12:42, Tim W wrote:

http://www.trashbasher.co.uk/

Seems to work very well. Being DIY, I should have made my own, but
without a
welder or a heavy tube bender, it would be hard to make something so
simple
and elegant.

I've got both, but I've also got 25 quid and no spare time. Looks like
a good gadget and a sensible price.

Fifteen quid at Maplin.



£12.50 at this previously mentioned site.
http://www.primrose-london.co.uk/tra...or-p-7274.html


mark

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:37:16 -0000, mark wrote:

"Steve Walker" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:51:08 -0800 (PST), Andy Dingley wrote:

On 13 Nov, 12:42, Tim W wrote:

http://www.trashbasher.co.uk/

Seems to work very well. Being DIY, I should have made my own, but
without a
welder or a heavy tube bender, it would be hard to make something so
simple
and elegant.

I've got both, but I've also got 25 quid and no spare time. Looks like
a good gadget and a sensible price.

Fifteen quid at Maplin.



£12.50 at this previously mentioned site.
http://www.primrose-london.co.uk/tra...or-p-7274.html


mark

Definitely good if you need it mail order, but that's plus delivery and
many people may be able to pick one up at their local Maplin store - for me
it means walking 100m from the supermarket while my wife carries on
shopping

SteveW

In article
, Andy
Dingley writes
On 13 Nov, 12:42, Tim W wrote:

http://www.trashbasher.co.uk/

Seems to work very well. Being DIY, I should have made my own, but without a
welder or a heavy tube bender, it would be hard to make something so simple
and elegant.

I've got both, but I've also got 25 quid and no spare time. Looks like
a good gadget and a sensible price.

Do they work ok? In extremis I could see the rubbish getting wedged in
and not coming out when they tip it into the loader. That certainly
happened when I used the boot treatment to overstuff a garden waste
wheely bin with hedge clippings but that is different I suppose.
--
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs

fred
wibbled on Saturday 14 November 2009 10:08

In article
, Andy
Dingley writes
On 13 Nov, 12:42, Tim W wrote:

http://www.trashbasher.co.uk/

Seems to work very well. Being DIY, I should have made my own, but
without a welder or a heavy tube bender, it would be hard to make
something so simple and elegant.

I've got both, but I've also got 25 quid and no spare time. Looks like
a good gadget and a sensible price.

Do they work ok? In extremis I could see the rubbish getting wedged in
and not coming out when they tip it into the loader. That certainly
happened when I used the boot treatment to overstuff a garden waste
wheely bin with hedge clippings but that is different I suppose.

Never had a problem boot squashing general crap. I think the relatively low
friction of plastic bags in a tapered plastic bin allows the crap to
dislodge when the bin lorry bangs it.

Happy to report back next week...

So far, I've taken an overflowing bin and reduced it to exactly half empty.

--
Tim Watts

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Tim W wrote:

Never had a problem boot squashing general crap. I think the relatively low
friction of plastic bags in a tapered plastic bin allows the crap to
dislodge when the bin lorry bangs it.

Happy to report back next week...

So far, I've taken an overflowing bin and reduced it to exactly half empty.

Or was it half full? :-)

Dave

In article , Tim W
writes
fred
wibbled on Saturday 14 November 2009 10:08

Do they work ok? In extremis I could see the rubbish getting wedged in
and not coming out when they tip it into the loader. That certainly
happened when I used the boot treatment to overstuff a garden waste
wheely bin with hedge clippings but that is different I suppose.

Never had a problem boot squashing general crap. I think the relatively low
friction of plastic bags in a tapered plastic bin allows the crap to
dislodge when the bin lorry bangs it.

Happy to report back next week...

So far, I've taken an overflowing bin and reduced it to exactly half empty.

That's good to know, thanks.
--
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs

Tim W
wibbled on Saturday 14 November 2009 10:27

fred
wibbled on Saturday 14 November 2009 10:08

In article
, Andy
Dingley writes
On 13 Nov, 12:42, Tim W wrote:

http://www.trashbasher.co.uk/

Seems to work very well. Being DIY, I should have made my own, but
without a welder or a heavy tube bender, it would be hard to make
something so simple and elegant.

I've got both, but I've also got 25 quid and no spare time. Looks like
a good gadget and a sensible price.

Do they work ok? In extremis I could see the rubbish getting wedged in
and not coming out when they tip it into the loader. That certainly
happened when I used the boot treatment to overstuff a garden waste
wheely bin with hedge clippings but that is different I suppose.

Never had a problem boot squashing general crap. I think the relatively
low friction of plastic bags in a tapered plastic bin allows the crap to
dislodge when the bin lorry bangs it.

Happy to report back next week...

So far, I've taken an overflowing bin and reduced it to exactly half
empty.


OK - dustmen been.

No problems. This week I really bammed the rubbish in until the sides of the
bin were bulging - in fact there is a slight set bulge left in it now. So
pretty tight. I should note that of late I've not bothered with a big
kitchen bin - I just hang Sainsburys bags off the doorknob and tie and bin
those, so that may help it not get jammed.

I reckon I could have got another week's worth of rubbish in there if push
came to shove.

And to be fair, I recycled everything that is practicable round here.

--
Tim Watts

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"Tim W" wrote in message
...
Tim W
wibbled on Saturday 14 November 2009 10:27

fred
wibbled on Saturday 14 November 2009 10:08

In article
, Andy
Dingley writes
On 13 Nov, 12:42, Tim W wrote:

http://www.trashbasher.co.uk/

Seems to work very well. Being DIY, I should have made my own, but
without a welder or a heavy tube bender, it would be hard to make
something so simple and elegant.

I've got both, but I've also got 25 quid and no spare time. Looks like
a good gadget and a sensible price.

Do they work ok? In extremis I could see the rubbish getting wedged in
and not coming out when they tip it into the loader. That certainly
happened when I used the boot treatment to overstuff a garden waste
wheely bin with hedge clippings but that is different I suppose.

Never had a problem boot squashing general crap. I think the relatively
low friction of plastic bags in a tapered plastic bin allows the crap to
dislodge when the bin lorry bangs it.

Happy to report back next week...

So far, I've taken an overflowing bin and reduced it to exactly half
empty.


OK - dustmen been.

No problems. This week I really bammed the rubbish in until the sides of
the
bin were bulging - in fact there is a slight set bulge left in it now. So
pretty tight. I should note that of late I've not bothered with a big
kitchen bin - I just hang Sainsburys bags off the doorknob and tie and bin
those, so that may help it not get jammed.

I reckon I could have got another week's worth of rubbish in there if push
came to shove.

And to be fair, I recycled everything that is practicable round here.

--
Tim Watts

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Anyone thinking of buying one, save yoursrlf some money here
http://tinyurl.com/yza8m7q

On 13 Nov, 12:42, Tim W wrote:
Ah - the joys of crap councils...

Having been used to a council that takes anything papery and cardboardy in
the paper bin (even food wrappings), anything plasticky (even food wraps)
in the plastic bin (+ cans) and food waste, including meat, in the garden
bin - I discover the joys of Rother Council:

Little bin 1: Types 1,2 + 3 plastics (most drinks bottles but not many
cartons, eg yoghurt which are mostly Type 6 for me) + cans (but no jar
lids)

Little bin 2: white paper. Literally. No card and even the plastic windows
of envelopes must be removed.

Garden bin: no peelings (WTF?!), definitely no food waste.

And to boot, the random bin is only 180l instead of 240l for a fortnightly
collection.

No local drops for cardboard. Station car park takes glass (good), but the
same paper and plastics as my own bins (the point of that being?...) and no
cardboard...

Rather than fight such pathetic uselessness head on[1], I gave up and got
one of these:

http://www.trashbasher.co.uk/

(No connection etc, can be got cheaper at many places).

Seems to work very well. Being DIY, I should have made my own, but without a
welder or a heavy tube bender, it would be hard to make something so simple
and elegant.

Problem solved...

hmm, just beware of compacting it too vigorously or it won't fall out
when the bin is inverted. My council even has an FAQ about this:
http://www.woking.gov.uk/environment..._fully_emptied

pcb1962
wibbled on Friday 13 November 2009 12:55

hmm, just beware of compacting it too vigorously or it won't fall out
when the bin is inverted. My council even has an FAQ about this:

http://www.woking.gov.uk/environment..._fully_emptied

Yes. The Trash Basher company claim this isn;t a problem - but I'll watch
the dustmen next Monday and see how it goes. Wheely bins are quite good at
not getting stuck due to being tapered.
--
Tim Watts

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"Tim W" wrote in message
...
Ah - the joys of crap councils...

Having been used to a council that takes anything papery and cardboardy in
the paper bin (even food wrappings), anything plasticky (even food wraps)
in the plastic bin (+ cans) and food waste, including meat, in the garden
bin - I discover the joys of Rother Council:

Little bin 1: Types 1,2 + 3 plastics (most drinks bottles but not many
cartons, eg yoghurt which are mostly Type 6 for me) + cans (but no jar
lids)

Little bin 2: white paper. Literally. No card and even the plastic windows
of envelopes must be removed.

Garden bin: no peelings (WTF?!), definitely no food waste.

And to boot, the random bin is only 180l instead of 240l for a fortnightly
collection.

No local drops for cardboard. Station car park takes glass (good), but the
same paper and plastics as my own bins (the point of that being?...) and
no
cardboard...

Rather than fight such pathetic uselessness head on[1], I gave up and got
one of these:

http://www.trashbasher.co.uk/

(No connection etc, can be got cheaper at many places).

Seems to work very well. Being DIY, I should have made my own, but without
a
welder or a heavy tube bender, it would be hard to make something so
simple
and elegant.

Problem solved...

[1] This will be remembered at the next local elections and used to beat
candidates over the head with...

I'll get rid of the paper bin and garden bins next. Poor paper bin only
has
2 envelopes in the bottom. And I'll have composting up and running soon so
that will take a lot of kitchen waste... Cardboard will probably be kept
as
fire lighting material.


--
Tim Watts


The recycle bins are a nightmare.

We get

Grey - general rubbish
Brown - Glass, aluminium and steel
Blue - Paper (newspapers fine but no telephone directories)
Green - Grass/hedge cuttings etc and cardboard. But no cardboard that has
had contact with food and no shiney cardboard and only thin cardboard.

However I frequently work in at least 6 other different council areas and
they all have different ideas as to what can go in their different coloured
bins.

When a friend had the wheelie bin police stick a note through his letterbox
saying the cardboard he had put in his green bin was too thick he asked the
council to redo the note on a piece of cardboard that was the maximum
thickness allowed. No response yet from the council.

Adam

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:42:42 +0000, Tim W wrote:

Rather than fight such pathetic uselessness head on[1], I gave up and
got one of these:

http://www.trashbasher.co.uk/

(No connection etc, can be got cheaper at many places).

And the order site needs Flash, and the Contact Us form doesn't appear to
work....



--
Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
http://www.mirrorservice.org

Bob Eager
wibbled on Friday 13 November 2009 13:05

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:42:42 +0000, Tim W wrote:

Rather than fight such pathetic uselessness head on[1], I gave up and
got one of these:

http://www.trashbasher.co.uk/

(No connection etc, can be got cheaper at many places).

And the order site needs Flash, and the Contact Us form doesn't appear to
work....




I actually bought mine he

http://www.primrose-london.co.uk/tra...or-p-7274.html

They went to the trouble to confirm it would work on a 180l narrow bin
(destructions claim 140l is also OK) and it arrived 2 days later - so they
deserve a plug

--
Tim Watts

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On 13 Nov, 14:02, Tim W wrote:

I actually bought mine he

http://www.primrose-london.co.uk/tra...ompactor-p-727...

With the money you save, you can also get one of these
http://www.primrose-london.co.uk/whe...er-p-8077.html

Stuff the compactor, I've got big boots that will do that well enough,
but I would love that pedal-operated lid add-on

Tim W wrote:
Bob Eager
wibbled on Friday 13 November 2009 13:05

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:42:42 +0000, Tim W wrote:

Rather than fight such pathetic uselessness head on[1], I gave up
and got one of these:

http://www.trashbasher.co.uk/

(No connection etc, can be got cheaper at many places).

And the order site needs Flash, and the Contact Us form doesn't
appear to work....




I actually bought mine he

http://www.primrose-london.co.uk/tra...or-p-7274.html

They went to the trouble to confirm it would work on a 180l narrow bin
(destructions claim 140l is also OK) and it arrived 2 days later - so
they deserve a plug

Good company. Guess who the Kent area installer for their patio awnings is
:-)


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:42:42 +0000, Tim W wrote:

Ah - the joys of crap councils...

Our council has a new twist this week...

We put garden waste in a green bin, and landfill waste in a grey bin.

Recycling goes in a clear plastic bag. We get 17 of these every three
months. More can be obtained from the council offices, free.

My understanding is that it's the *ratio* of recyclables that matters to
the council, so the more recycling the better (as well as less landfill
and tax, of course).

So the latest money saving idea is to charge £2 for each extra roll of
recycling bags...they actually want us to pay to help them...!

The law of unintended consequences kicks in....

--
Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
http://www.mirrorservice.org

Bob Eager
wibbled on Friday 13 November 2009 13:08

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:42:42 +0000, Tim W wrote:

Ah - the joys of crap councils...

Our council has a new twist this week...

We put garden waste in a green bin, and landfill waste in a grey bin.

Recycling goes in a clear plastic bag. We get 17 of these every three
months. More can be obtained from the council offices, free.

My understanding is that it's the *ratio* of recyclables that matters to
the council, so the more recycling the better (as well as less landfill
and tax, of course).

So the latest money saving idea is to charge £2 for each extra roll of
recycling bags...they actually want us to pay to help them...!

The law of unintended consequences kicks in....


Genius...

--
Tim Watts

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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:42:42 +0000, Tim W wrote:


Rather than fight such pathetic uselessness head on[1], I gave up and got
one of these:


Write to the local paper expressing disatisfaction with the council's
recycling policy.
If you can stand looking grumpy by a wheely bin long enough for them
to take a picture they'll put you in.

(email the letters page so it doesn't even cost you a stamp)




[1] This will be remembered at the next local elections and used to beat
candidates over the head with...

I'll get rid of the paper bin and garden bins next. Poor paper bin only has
2 envelopes in the bottom. And I'll have composting up and running soon so
that will take a lot of kitchen waste... Cardboard will probably be kept as
fire lighting material.
--
http://www.Christmasfreebies.co.uk
http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk

mogga
wibbled on Friday 13 November 2009 13:14

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:42:42 +0000, Tim W wrote:


Rather than fight such pathetic uselessness head on[1], I gave up and got
one of these:


Write to the local paper expressing disatisfaction with the council's
recycling policy.
If you can stand looking grumpy by a wheely bin long enough for them
to take a picture they'll put you in.

(email the letters page so it doesn't even cost you a stamp)


I could sign it "Disgusted, formerly of Tunbridge Wells" ;-

In theory I have the bin inspector coming round sometime to see if I qualify
for a 240l bin and to see if I have recycled everything that's possible to
do so round here (and taking soggy cardboard to a dump 3 miles away isn't
an option in my book).


--
Tim Watts

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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:37:02 +0000, Tim W wrote:

mogga
wibbled on Friday 13 November 2009 13:14

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:42:42 +0000, Tim W wrote:


Rather than fight such pathetic uselessness head on[1], I gave up and got
one of these:


Write to the local paper expressing disatisfaction with the council's
recycling policy.
If you can stand looking grumpy by a wheely bin long enough for them
to take a picture they'll put you in.

(email the letters page so it doesn't even cost you a stamp)


I could sign it "Disgusted, formerly of Tunbridge Wells" ;-

Works for me. You'll be surprised how many times you can get
published... My local free paper gives vouchers for a local pub for
letter of the week. Well worth an email!


In theory I have the bin inspector coming round sometime to see if I qualify
for a 240l bin and to see if I have recycled everything that's possible to
do so round here (and taking soggy cardboard to a dump 3 miles away isn't
an option in my book).

No and it shouldn't be a huge issue for them to pull their finger out
and recycle more.

--
http://www.Christmasfreebies.co.uk
http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:42:42 +0000, Tim W wrote:
Ah - the joys of crap councils...

Having been used to a council that takes anything papery and cardboardy in
the paper bin (even food wrappings), anything plasticky (even food wraps)
in the plastic bin (+ cans) and food waste, including meat, in the garden
bin - I discover the joys of Rother Council:

Little bin 1: Types 1,2 + 3 plastics (most drinks bottles but not many
cartons, eg yoghurt which are mostly Type 6 for me) + cans (but no jar
lids)

Little bin 2: white paper. Literally. No card and even the plastic windows
of envelopes must be removed.

Garden bin: no peelings (WTF?!), definitely no food waste.

And to boot, the random bin is only 180l instead of 240l for a fortnightly
collection.

No local drops for cardboard. Station car park takes glass (good), but the
same paper and plastics as my own bins (the point of that being?...) and no
cardboard...

Rather than fight such pathetic uselessness head on[1], I gave up and got
one of these:

http://www.trashbasher.co.uk/

(No connection etc, can be got cheaper at many places).

Seems to work very well. Being DIY, I should have made my own, but without a
welder or a heavy tube bender, it would be hard to make something so simple
and elegant.

Yes it *looks* like a good idea (though I don't believe the marketing
"advantages" it claims: stop small animals foraging? nah, they can't jump
that high - or open the lid). However, it does look as it puts a lot of strain
on the pivot point: the two plastic handles used to up-end the bin.

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:19:29 +0000, pete wrote:

Yes it *looks* like a good idea (though I don't believe the marketing
"advantages" it claims: stop small animals foraging? nah, they can't
jump that high - or open the lid).

The argument is that you can get all the bags in the bin instead of
leaving the excess ones on the floor where animals can get at them. Since
many councils won't take bags not in the bin, that's a moot point.

--
Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
http://www.mirrorservice.org

Bob Eager wrote:
on the floor

AAARG NO!
Not another one!

The GROUND when it's outside!
The FLOOR when it's inside!

:-)

--
Ron

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:15:39 +0000, Ron Lowe wrote:

Bob Eager wrote:
on the floor

AAARG NO!
Not another one!

The GROUND when it's outside!
The FLOOR when it's inside!

:-)

ROTGLMAO

--
Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
http://www.mirrorservice.org

pete
wibbled on Friday 13 November 2009 13:19


Yes it *looks* like a good idea (though I don't believe the marketing
"advantages" it claims: stop small animals foraging? nah, they can't jump
that high - or open the lid).

Yes - that's marketing ********. Although it does stop the fox raking the
bones out of the bags to the side of the bin that I hd yesterday, now
happily squished in.

However, it does look as it puts a lot of
strain on the pivot point: the two plastic handles used to up-end the bin.

It's not too bad actually. It's only a 2x mechanical advantage and those
pivots are pretty solid.

I was contemplating all sorts of things like a 3x3" timber frame round the
bin and bottle jack+plate[1] between the frame and the rubbish. In the end
I thought I'd google on the basis that someone must make something...

[1] The problem is that the compressive force needed to squish some air out
of a few bits of loose rubbish isn't very high but the stroke distance is,
which is the opposite to what a bottle jack is optimised for.

--
Tim Watts

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I can't understand why we have to have individual wheelie bins ... we've now
got three like I suspect the majority of the population and also a nice
little one for the kitchen where we can put our food scraps and then empty
them into the brown garden trimmings and food waste bin.

In Spain, for instance, at the top and bottom of each street (and the middle
if the street is fairly long) there are conveniently sited 1000 litre (or
so) wheelie bins. A green one for general rubbish and a yellow one for
cans, plastics, milk cartons, etc. About every other street there's a paper
bin and glass bin. The general rubbish bin is empty daily and the yellow one
weekly ... the paper and glass about fortnightly. If you have anything which
someone else may be able to use like a broken chair, TV, car battery etc
just leave it next to the bin and it'll be gone within a few minutes by a
grateful passing Spaniard/Moroccan.

The bins are cleaned regularly and even washed! All without the need for
messy individual wheelie bins ... so why do we have such a polluting and
unsightly system? Trying to negotiate the footpaths around our house on
wheelie bin day here is a nightmare ... especially after they have emptied
the bins and then leave them stewn all over the footpath without regard for
pedestrians.

Ash

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:22:23 -0000, "Ash" wrote:

I can't understand why we have to have individual wheelie bins ... we've now
got three like I suspect the majority of the population and also a nice
little one for the kitchen where we can put our food scraps and then empty
them into the brown garden trimmings and food waste bin.

In Spain, for instance, at the top and bottom of each street (and the middle

You mean like in caravan parks?

if the street is fairly long) there are conveniently sited 1000 litre (or
so) wheelie bins. A green one for general rubbish and a yellow one for
cans, plastics, milk cartons, etc. About every other street there's a paper
bin and glass bin. The general rubbish bin is empty daily and the yellow one
weekly ... the paper and glass about fortnightly. If you have anything which
someone else may be able to use like a broken chair, TV, car battery etc
just leave it next to the bin and it'll be gone within a few minutes by a
grateful passing Spaniard/Moroccan.

The bins are cleaned regularly and even washed! All without the need for
messy individual wheelie bins ... so why do we have such a polluting and
unsightly system? Trying to negotiate the footpaths around our house on
wheelie bin day here is a nightmare ... especially after they have emptied
the bins and then leave them stewn all over the footpath without regard for
pedestrians.

Ash

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Ash
wibbled on Friday 13 November 2009 13:22

I can't understand why we have to have individual wheelie bins ... we've
now got three like I suspect the majority of the population and also a
nice little one for the kitchen where we can put our food scraps and then
empty them into the brown garden trimmings and food waste bin.

In Spain, for instance, at the top and bottom of each street (and the
middle if the street is fairly long) there are conveniently sited 1000
litre (or
so) wheelie bins. A green one for general rubbish and a yellow one for
cans, plastics, milk cartons, etc. About every other street there's a
paper bin and glass bin. The general rubbish bin is empty daily and the
yellow one weekly ... the paper and glass about fortnightly. If you have
anything which someone else may be able to use like a broken chair, TV,
car battery etc just leave it next to the bin and it'll be gone within a
few minutes by a grateful passing Spaniard/Moroccan.

The bins are cleaned regularly and even washed! All without the need for
messy individual wheelie bins ... so why do we have such a polluting and
unsightly system? Trying to negotiate the footpaths around our house on
wheelie bin day here is a nightmare ... especially after they have emptied
the bins and then leave them stewn all over the footpath without regard
for pedestrians.

Ah yes. Two problems:

a) It's far too sensible for any idiot local politician here;

b) They won't be able to tax you by weight[1] down the line when they chip
the bin.

[2] I don't have much of a problem with this approach. At the end of the
day, I live, I consume, I recycle and whats left has to go somewhere. I
want the last bit to be as painless as possible... I'm happy to pay my fair
share.

--
Tim Watts

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Ash :
I can't understand why we have to have individual wheelie bins ... we've now
got three like I suspect the majority of the population and also a nice
little one for the kitchen where we can put our food scraps and then empty
them into the brown garden trimmings and food waste bin.

In Spain, for instance, at the top and bottom of each street (and the middle
if the street is fairly long) there are conveniently sited 1000 litre (or
so) wheelie bins. A green one for general rubbish and a yellow one for
cans, plastics, milk cartons, etc. About every other street there's a paper
bin and glass bin. The general rubbish bin is empty daily and the yellow one
weekly ... the paper and glass about fortnightly. If you have anything which
someone else may be able to use like a broken chair, TV, car battery etc
just leave it next to the bin and it'll be gone within a few minutes by a
grateful passing Spaniard/Moroccan.

The bins are cleaned regularly and even washed! All without the need for
messy individual wheelie bins ... so why do we have such a polluting and
unsightly system?

My thoughts exactly. AFAICS the community bin system also fosters good
relations with your neighbours and provides a small but (for some) much-
needed bit of fresh air and exercise.

--
Mike Barnes

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:42:42 +0000, Tim W wrote:

http://www.trashbasher.co.uk/

Suggested that you store in hung on the back of your bin. I bet it
will grow legs and walk faster than the biodegradeable rubbish in the
bin...

We have a fairly sensible council weekly collection for the blue bag
of general waste, alternate weeks for the green box of paper, metal
and glass or green wheelie bin of garden waste. Food waste goes on
our compost heap.

I do wish they took plastics on their collection and cardboard but as
the weekly supermarket has facilties for those it's no great hardship
or cost to take them there.

--
Cheers
Dave.

Dave Liquorice
wibbled on Friday 13 November 2009 14:25

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:42:42 +0000, Tim W wrote:

http://www.trashbasher.co.uk/

Suggested that you store in hung on the back of your bin. I bet it
will grow legs and walk faster than the biodegradeable rubbish in the
bin...

Yes. Or the council will notice too many in use and start to devise a
devious plan to negate their use (smaller bins and a free compactor for
everyone?)

We have a fairly sensible council weekly collection for the blue bag
of general waste, alternate weeks for the green box of paper, metal
and glass or green wheelie bin of garden waste. Food waste goes on
our compost heap.

Yes, for those of us who are lucky to have a garden the compost heap does
take a decent amount of what falls out of a kitchen (assuming you don;t
live of micromeals).

I do wish they took plastics on their collection and cardboard but as
the weekly supermarket has facilties for those it's no great hardship
or cost to take them there.


We don't really have a local supermarket - I buy online from Sainsburys once
per week - don't think the bloke will like being offered my cardboard ;-
--
Tim Watts

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In message o.uk, Dave
Liquorice writes
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:42:42 +0000, Tim W wrote:

http://www.trashbasher.co.uk/

We have a fairly sensible council weekly collection for the blue bag
of general waste, alternate weeks for the green box of paper, metal
and glass or green wheelie bin of garden waste. Food waste goes on
our compost heap.


We have two-weekly collections, but I've never found the volume of
rubbish an issue.

black bin for general rubbish, but never seems to get anywhere near
full unless we have been having a bit of a clear out of somewhere.

blue bin for recyclables, I can sometimes fill this up, usually if there
is lots of cardboard. but they will take extra stuff as well as long as
sensibly put out say all in another box or somesuch. Or soem cardboard
goes on the compost.

Green bin for organic waste. Will take all sorts of food kitchen waste
including meat, bones etc. And shredded paper. But mostly we compost our
stuff.


I do wish they took plastics on their collection and cardboard but as
the weekly supermarket has facilties for those it's no great hardship
or cost to take them there.

Glass goes to the bottle bank, other than that the mosty obvious thing
missing from recycling is the rigid plastic used for trays, pots etc.
no. 5 -polyproplene?

--
Chris French