After falling prey to some scum bag and suffering a loss of my much loved
bicycle, I've decided to do some research into locks.

The bicycle had a D lock with a round key which is aparantly crap, and a
chain lock with a padlock type lock connecting it. I left the bike 3/4 mins
came back it was gone in a very busy place, I guess no one cares or people
with there busy lives just walk on by.

The advice I'm after is what kind of lock(s) would be best for me ?

I've had a bit of a knock confidence wise even buying a new bike, but I have
and just wanting to make sure it doesn't happen again. Although I know it
can if the theif wants it they will get it, I just want to create enought of
a deterrent to make them think too much hassle.

"Dubber" wrote in message
...
After falling prey to some scum bag and suffering a loss of my much loved
bicycle, I've decided to do some research into locks.

The bicycle had a D lock with a round key which is aparantly crap, and a
chain lock with a padlock type lock connecting it. I left the bike 3/4
mins came back it was gone in a very busy place, I guess no one cares or
people with there busy lives just walk on by.

How heavy was the chain, and was the bike attached to anything?

The advice I'm after is what kind of lock(s) would be best for me ?

I've had a bit of a knock confidence wise even buying a new bike, but I
have and just wanting to make sure it doesn't happen again. Although I
know it can if the theif wants it they will get it, I just want to create
enought of a deterrent to make them think too much hassle.

After getting a bike nicked, the police recommended a fat chain to me. Which
is what I now have - stout chain + stout padlock.

However, probably worth trying this question on uk.rec.cycling or
uk.rec.cycling.moderated (I reckon the latter will be more likely to get you
sensible answers).

"Clive George" wrote in message
o.uk...
"Dubber" wrote in message
...
After falling prey to some scum bag and suffering a loss of my much loved
bicycle, I've decided to do some research into locks.

The bicycle had a D lock with a round key which is aparantly crap, and a
chain lock with a padlock type lock connecting it. I left the bike 3/4
mins came back it was gone in a very busy place, I guess no one cares or
people with there busy lives just walk on by.

How heavy was the chain, and was the bike attached to anything?

Was this one
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/s...egoryId_165637

The advice I'm after is what kind of lock(s) would be best for me ?

I've had a bit of a knock confidence wise even buying a new bike, but I
have and just wanting to make sure it doesn't happen again. Although I
know it can if the theif wants it they will get it, I just want to create
enought of a deterrent to make them think too much hassle.

After getting a bike nicked, the police recommended a fat chain to me.
Which is what I now have - stout chain + stout padlock.

However, probably worth trying this question on uk.rec.cycling or
uk.rec.cycling.moderated (I reckon the latter will be more likely to get
you sensible answers).

Ahh didn;t know it existed! thanks

Clive George wrote:

After getting a bike nicked, the police recommended a fat chain to me. Which
is what I now have - stout chain + stout padlock.

The problem is: the more light-weight the bike is the more expensive it
is so the bigger, and heavier, the chain that is recommended. Which
rather goes against the principle of having a light-weight bike in the
first place.

Andrew

On 4 Nov, 13:52, Andrew May wrote:

The problem is: the more light-weight the bike is the more expensive it
is so the bigger, and heavier, the chain that is recommended.

The "All bikes weigh 40 lbs" view

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dubber"
saying something like:

The advice I'm after is what kind of lock(s) would be best for me ?

Only one make successfully resists attack for very long - Almax.
All the others are ****.

Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dubber"
saying something like:

The advice I'm after is what kind of lock(s) would be best for me ?

Only one make successfully resists attack for very long - Almax.
All the others are ****.

Crikey, you're right - look at the videos on
www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/index.asp?pg=19

£150 Abus Thatcham Approved blah blah Chain, cropped with simple
bolt-cutters in 25 seconds.

"Steve Walker" wrote in message
...
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dubber"
saying something like:

The advice I'm after is what kind of lock(s) would be best for me ?

Only one make successfully resists attack for very long - Almax.
All the others are ****.

Crikey, you're right - look at the videos on
www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/index.asp?pg=19

£150 Abus Thatcham Approved blah blah Chain, cropped with simple
bolt-cutters in 25 seconds.

I notice that the chain they are selling is much harder.
Does that mean its brittle and can be shattered with a heavy blow or two?

In message , "dennis@home"
writes


"Steve Walker" wrote in message
...
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dubber"
saying something like:

The advice I'm after is what kind of lock(s) would be best for me ?

Only one make successfully resists attack for very long - Almax.
All the others are ****.

Crikey, you're right - look at the videos on
www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/index.asp?pg=19

£150 Abus Thatcham Approved blah blah Chain, cropped with simple
bolt-cutters in 25 seconds.

I notice that the chain they are selling is much harder.
Does that mean its brittle and can be shattered with a heavy blow or two?


No dennis, they are virtually indestructible


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Steve Walker wrote:
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dubber"
saying something like:

The advice I'm after is what kind of lock(s) would be best for me ?

Only one make successfully resists attack for very long - Almax.
All the others are ****.

Crikey, you're right - look at the videos on
www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/index.asp?pg=19

£150 Abus Thatcham Approved blah blah Chain, cropped with simple
bolt-cutters in 25 seconds.

WTF is that all about? Granted he used a big FO pair of croppers, but
surely the video is meant to demonstrate that the product survives for a
minimum 5 mins?

Anywho, an angle grinder would have taken that out in half the time.

I removed the wire rope type lock from an adandoned bike in around 3 seconds
with my trusty angle grinder a few weeks ago.


--
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www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

The Medway Handyman wrote:
Steve Walker wrote:
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when
the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dubber"
saying something like:

The advice I'm after is what kind of lock(s) would be best for me ?

Only one make successfully resists attack for very long - Almax.
All the others are ****.

Crikey, you're right - look at the videos on
www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/index.asp?pg=19

£150 Abus Thatcham Approved blah blah Chain, cropped with simple
bolt-cutters in 25 seconds.

WTF is that all about? Granted he used a big FO pair of croppers, but
surely the video is meant to demonstrate that the product survives
for a minimum 5 mins?

Anywho, an angle grinder would have taken that out in half the time.

I removed the wire rope type lock from an adandoned bike in around 3
seconds with my trusty angle grinder a few weeks ago.

You and your angle grinder. The next thing we'll know is that you lubricate
it with WD40!

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:42:36 +0000, Clot wrote:

The Medway Handyman wrote:
Steve Walker wrote:
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dubber"
saying something like:

The advice I'm after is what kind of lock(s) would be best for me ?

Only one make successfully resists attack for very long - Almax. All
the others are ****.

Crikey, you're right - look at the videos on
www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/index.asp?pg=19

£150 Abus Thatcham Approved blah blah Chain, cropped with simple
bolt-cutters in 25 seconds.

WTF is that all about? Granted he used a big FO pair of croppers, but
surely the video is meant to demonstrate that the product survives for
a minimum 5 mins?

Anywho, an angle grinder would have taken that out in half the time.

I removed the wire rope type lock from an adandoned bike in around 3
seconds with my trusty angle grinder a few weeks ago.

You and your angle grinder. The next thing we'll know is that you
lubricate it with WD40!

Of course he doesn't - WD40 is not a lubricant...! (ducks)



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In message , The Medway
Handyman writes
Steve Walker wrote:
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dubber"
saying something like:

The advice I'm after is what kind of lock(s) would be best for me ?

Only one make successfully resists attack for very long - Almax.
All the others are ****.

Crikey, you're right - look at the videos on
www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/index.asp?pg=19

£150 Abus Thatcham Approved blah blah Chain, cropped with simple
bolt-cutters in 25 seconds.

WTF is that all about? Granted he used a big FO pair of croppers, but
surely the video is meant to demonstrate that the product survives for a
minimum 5 mins?

Anywho, an angle grinder would have taken that out in half the time.

I removed the wire rope type lock from an adandoned bike in around 3 seconds
with my trusty angle grinder a few weeks ago.


I so don't think so

The links are thicker than dennis

Don't forget, one doesn't usually park a bike close to a mains socket,
an Almax chain would tell a battery angle grinder to **** off and play
elsewhere


--
geoff

geoff wrote:
In message , The Medway
Handyman writes
Steve Walker wrote:
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when
the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dubber"
saying something like:

The advice I'm after is what kind of lock(s) would be best for me
?

Only one make successfully resists attack for very long - Almax.
All the others are ****.

Crikey, you're right - look at the videos on
www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/index.asp?pg=19

£150 Abus Thatcham Approved blah blah Chain, cropped with simple
bolt-cutters in 25 seconds.

WTF is that all about? Granted he used a big FO pair of croppers,
but surely the video is meant to demonstrate that the product
survives for a minimum 5 mins?

Anywho, an angle grinder would have taken that out in half the time.

I removed the wire rope type lock from an adandoned bike in around 3
seconds with my trusty angle grinder a few weeks ago.


I so don't think so

The links are thicker than dennis

Don't forget, one doesn't usually park a bike close to a mains socket,
an Almax chain would tell a battery angle grinder to **** off and play
elsewhere

It didn't tell those bolt croppers to **** off did it?


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:04:34 +0000, geoff wrote:
The links are thicker than dennis

He's now a unit of measurement? Is there a picoDennis for really really
small stuff?

In message , Grimly
Curmudgeon writes
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dubber"
saying something like:

The advice I'm after is what kind of lock(s) would be best for me ?

Only one make successfully resists attack for very long - Almax.
All the others are ****.

Seconded - but they're not cheap

You might find someone hacksawing through your rear wheel just to steal
the chain

--
geoff

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 02:07:43 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dubber"
saying something like:

The advice I'm after is what kind of lock(s) would be best for me ?

Only one make successfully resists attack for very long - Almax.
All the others are ****.

Aren't these designed for motorbikes? I'd have thought they would be
impractical to carry on a bicycle.

I take the pragmatic approach to locking my bike. Pick a good spot to
lock it and always lock it to a fixed object. If you have a nice bike
paint it a vile shade of pink to make it less attractive to theives.
Sheldon brown recommends using two different types of locks since they
would require different tools to break.

I use a single D lock, but I don't have a desirable bike.
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On 4 Nov, 10:22, Mark wrote:

Aren't these designed for motorbikes? *I'd have thought they would be
impractical to carry on a bicycle.

I don't carry my big lock when commuting, I have two and leave one at
each end.

On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 03:16:28 -0800 (PST)
Andy Dingley wrote:

On 4 Nov, 10:22, Mark wrote:

Aren't these designed for motorbikes? Â*I'd have thought they would be
impractical to carry on a bicycle.

I don't carry my big lock when commuting, I have two and leave one at
each end.


Ah! That's what all those chains left locked to nothing but the post
are at stations. The lock at the other end! Thanks, it's always
worried me.
R.

"Dubber" wrote in message
...
After falling prey to some scum bag and suffering a loss of my much loved
bicycle, I've decided to do some research into locks.

The bicycle had a D lock with a round key which is aparantly crap, and a
chain lock with a padlock type lock connecting it. I left the bike 3/4
mins came back it was gone in a very busy place, I guess no one cares or
people with there busy lives just walk on by.

The advice I'm after is what kind of lock(s) would be best for me ?

I've had a bit of a knock confidence wise even buying a new bike, but I
have and just wanting to make sure it doesn't happen again. Although I
know it can if the theif wants it they will get it, I just want to create
enought of a deterrent to make them think too much hassle.

It's one reason why I don't use expensive bikes. I have 2. One is
semi-decent and the other is one which no one in their right mind will
steal. It looks tatty but functions as well as any other bike.

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:32:55 +0000, Fredxx wrote:
It's one reason why I don't use expensive bikes. I have 2. One is
semi-decent and the other is one which no one in their right mind will
steal. It looks tatty but functions as well as any other bike.

Or maybe they'd steal it to use because they think it's tatty and won't
get stolen by someone else :-)