I've just bought some wallpaper from a local paint/paper decorating
shop, and the assistant said that I should be using ready mixed paste
for the paper I was buying as it was a "heavyweight" vinyl. In fact on
looking again at the rolls of paper on the shelves, practically all of
them regardless of "weight" had a little sticker on recommending that
ready mixed paste should be used.

I asked him why and he said the ready mixed paste is PVA based and
the manufacturer of the paper would not consider any complaints of
poor adhesion unless it was used.

I told him that in 40 years of doing my own decorating I had never had
a need to use ready mixed paste whatever the paper, and so I bought a
packet or two of Solvite as usual.

I have never come across this stipulation before and wondered if
others have any experience of it, or can offer some logical
explanation (other than there is more profit margin on ready mix)

Pete

On 13 Oct, 23:17, petek wrote:
I've just bought some wallpaper from a local paint/paper decorating
shop, and the assistant said that I should be using ready mixed paste
for the paper I was buying as it was a "heavyweight" vinyl. In fact on
looking again at the rolls of paper on the shelves, practically all of
them regardless of "weight" had a little sticker on recommending that
ready mixed paste should be used.

*I asked him why and he said the ready mixed paste is PVA based and
the manufacturer of the paper would not consider any complaints of
poor adhesion unless it was used.

I told him that in 40 years of doing my own decorating I had never had
a need to use ready mixed paste whatever the paper, and so I bought a
packet or two of Solvite as usual.

I have never come across this stipulation before and wondered if
others have any experience of it, or can offer some logical
explanation (other than there is more profit margin on ready mix)

Pete

Well he has said the adhesion is better. Also, some vinyl papers are
not very absorbent which may cause a problem ?
But I wonder how easily you could strip a wall with PVA'd paper on it.
Would it "melt" like the normal stuff does with a steam stripper ?
Simon.

Simon wrote:
On 13 Oct, 23:17, petek wrote:
I've just bought some wallpaper from a local paint/paper decorating
shop, and the assistant said that I should be using ready mixed paste
for the paper I was buying as it was a "heavyweight" vinyl. In fact on
looking again at the rolls of paper on the shelves, practically all of
them regardless of "weight" had a little sticker on recommending that
ready mixed paste should be used.

I asked him why and he said the ready mixed paste is PVA based and
the manufacturer of the paper would not consider any complaints of
poor adhesion unless it was used.

I told him that in 40 years of doing my own decorating I had never had
a need to use ready mixed paste whatever the paper, and so I bought a
packet or two of Solvite as usual.

I have never come across this stipulation before and wondered if
others have any experience of it, or can offer some logical
explanation (other than there is more profit margin on ready mix)

Pete

Well he has said the adhesion is better. Also, some vinyl papers are
not very absorbent which may cause a problem ?
But I wonder how easily you could strip a wall with PVA'd paper on it.
Would it "melt" like the normal stuff does with a steam stripper ?
Simon.

AFAIK Solvite is just CMC (carboxymethylcellulose) which IME doesn't
always do a good job on the edges of vinyl paper

On Oct 14, 10:29*am, Stuart Noble wrote:
Simon wrote:
On 13 Oct, 23:17, petek wrote:
I've just bought some wallpaper from a local paint/paper decorating
shop, and the assistant said that I should be using ready mixed paste
for the paper I was buying as it was a "heavyweight" vinyl. In fact on
looking again at the rolls of paper on the shelves, practically all of
them regardless of "weight" had a little sticker on recommending that
ready mixed paste should be used.

*I asked him why and he said the ready mixed paste is PVA based and
the manufacturer of the paper would not consider any complaints of
poor adhesion unless it was used.

I told him that in 40 years of doing my own decorating I had never had
a need to use ready mixed paste whatever the paper, and so I bought a
packet or two of Solvite as usual.

I have never come across this stipulation before and wondered if
others have any experience of it, or can offer some logical
explanation (other than there is more profit margin on ready mix)

Pete

Well he has said the adhesion is better. Also, some vinyl papers are
not very absorbent which may cause a problem ?
But I wonder how easily you could strip a wall with PVA'd paper on it.
Would it "melt" like the normal stuff does with a steam stripper ?
Simon.

AFAIK Solvite is just CMC (carboxymethylcellulose) which IME doesn't
always do a good job on the edges of vinyl paper


I found that edges stay stuck better if theyre _not_ rolled down.
Rolling squeezes most of the glue out, so I guess you end up with less
paper to plaster contact area.

Manufacturers love their high margin extras.


NT

On Oct 14, 8:17*pm, NT wrote:
On Oct 14, 10:29*am, Stuart Noble wrote:



Simon wrote:
On 13 Oct, 23:17, petek wrote:
I've just bought some wallpaper from a local paint/paper decorating
shop, and the assistant said that I should be using ready mixed paste
for the paper I was buying as it was a "heavyweight" vinyl. In fact on
looking again at the rolls of paper on the shelves, practically all of
them regardless of "weight" had a little sticker on recommending that
ready mixed paste should be used.

*I asked him why and he said the ready mixed paste is PVA based and
the manufacturer of the paper would not consider any complaints of
poor adhesion unless it was used.

I told him that in 40 years of doing my own decorating I had never had
a need to use ready mixed paste whatever the paper, and so I bought a
packet or two of Solvite as usual.

I have never come across this stipulation before and wondered if
others have any experience of it, or can offer some logical
explanation (other than there is more profit margin on ready mix)

Pete

Well he has said the adhesion is better. Also, some vinyl papers are
not very absorbent which may cause a problem ?
But I wonder how easily you could strip a wall with PVA'd paper on it..
Would it "melt" like the normal stuff does with a steam stripper ?
Simon.

AFAIK Solvite is just CMC (carboxymethylcellulose) which IME doesn't
always do a good job on the edges of vinyl paper

I found that edges stay stuck better if theyre _not_ rolled down.
Rolling squeezes most of the glue out, so I guess you end up with less
paper to plaster contact area.

Manufacturers love their high margin extras.

NT

if you want the pva you can always add a little.


NT

On 14 Oct, 09:20, Simon wrote:

But I wonder how easily you could strip a wall with PVA'd paper on it.
Would it "melt" like the normal stuff does with a steam stripper ?
Simon.-

It took me best part of a day to strip a border I had stuck with
Border Adhesive, which is probably the same sort of PVA. I will try
never to use such stuff again.

John

Hi I have just encountered Jane Churchill paper with the same message regarding using Ready Mixed PVA wallpaper adhesive, I have been hanging wallpaper for 45 years and never used a ready mixed product. I tried Solvite Extra Strong, seams lifted, without using a roller, tried again with a roller, seams lifted. Tried mixing PVA with Solvite, same results, Tried pasting with Solvite then pasting edges with border adhesive, same results whether rollered or not. Gave up went to Homebase and bought a 1kg tub of ready mixed PVA wallpaper adhesive. Pasted the paper with a 2" brush (small tub), paper stuck straight away, edges didn't lift. Why oh why didn't I just do as the manufacterer advised. Probably to save the £5.99 for a ikg tub which does just one roll. Try as I may I can't find another Ready Mixed PVA adhesive in a larger tub. Perhaps someone knows what it is and where to get it.