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Harry K
 
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Default Wallpaper paste

Okay, I googled it and got nothing useful.

I removed the wallpaper from the kitchen and want to paint. Of course
the glue residue has to be removed. I have been that route before
using just warm water and scrub pads - not a fun occupation.

I vaguely recall seeing something somewhere about a specific product
for this job, or at least a product that works on it. I bought some
TSP but the local newspaper help column says it is a bad idea as
getting the glue plus tsp residue off cleanly is a problem.

Anybody?

Harry K

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"Harry K" wrote in message
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Okay, I googled it and got nothing useful.

I removed the wallpaper from the kitchen and want to paint. Of course
the glue residue has to be removed. I have been that route before
using just warm water and scrub pads - not a fun occupation.

I vaguely recall seeing something somewhere about a specific product
for this job, or at least a product that works on it. I bought some
TSP but the local newspaper help column says it is a bad idea as
getting the glue plus tsp residue off cleanly is a problem.

Anybody?

Harry K


Warm water and time. Get one of those 99 cent sprayers from the store.
Spray water on there. LET IT SIT for a minute or two. Wipe gently. Look
down the wall at an angle, and you can see if you have left any boogers of
glue. Do it again. Work in small areas, like 3 feet by 3 feet.

I have removed all the wallpaper from a 1800 sf house. There isn't an easy
way to do it. There ain't no magical chemicals.

Warm water and time.

Determination and patience help, too.

Have fun.

Steve


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I've used this stuff many times. Works really good.

http://www.zinsser.com/product_detail.asp?ProductID=18

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Greetings Harry,

There is a magical way to do it that doesn't require any determination,
patience, scrubbing, or time.

Textured paint.

Hope this helps,
William

PS: Use normal paint in subsequent coats and your wall will become less
textured with time.

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Thanks for the replies. They were about what I expected, i.e., time
and work.

Will try the DIF GEL stuff. I located a store 50 miles from me and
since I have to be in that area anyhow next week it's no biggie.

Harry K



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"Harry K" wrote in message
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Thanks for the replies. They were about what I expected, i.e., time
and work.

Will try the DIF GEL stuff. I located a store 50 miles from me and
since I have to be in that area anyhow next week it's no biggie.

Harry K


Save your time and money. Warm water.

Steve


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SteveB wrote:
"Harry K" wrote in message
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Thanks for the replies. They were about what I expected, i.e., time
and work.

Will try the DIF GEL stuff. I located a store 50 miles from me and
since I have to be in that area anyhow next week it's no biggie.

Harry K



Save your time and money. Warm water.

Steve



I agree. Spraying water lightly to cover, wait, spray again, wait, start
scrubbing. Paste is simple to remove, just requires elbow grease.
Softens easily with water. When you get down to the wallboard, you want
to use gentle pressure so the water and friction don't damage the paper
covering the wallboard. It will stop feeling "slimey" when the paste is
gone. Shine a flashlight across the surface to try to find areas you
missed, as the texture will show when painted sometimes if paste is left
on the wall.

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Norminn wrote:
SteveB wrote:
"Harry K" wrote in message
oups.com...

Thanks for the replies. They were about what I expected, i.e., time
and work.

Will try the DIF GEL stuff. I located a store 50 miles from me and
since I have to be in that area anyhow next week it's no biggie.

Harry K



Save your time and money. Warm water.

Steve



I agree. Spraying water lightly to cover, wait, spray again, wait, start
scrubbing. Paste is simple to remove, just requires elbow grease.
Softens easily with water. When you get down to the wallboard, you want
to use gentle pressure so the water and friction don't damage the paper
covering the wallboard. It will stop feeling "slimey" when the paste is
gone. Shine a flashlight across the surface to try to find areas you
missed, as the texture will show when painted sometimes if paste is left
on the wall.


Not sure what I have. When I pulled the old paper a film of something
white partially pulled off with the paper, other parts stuck. Kept it
wet down and scraped with a 4" taping knife. Most came off but it took
me three hours to clear a basic 4x8 area. The white stuff almost looks
like paint but it softens with water, under that is a coat of paint
that isn't being hurt. The wife is getting a divorce if she ever again
mentions wall paper.

Harry K

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"Harry K" wrote

Not sure what I have. When I pulled the old paper a film of something
white partially pulled off with the paper, other parts stuck. Kept it
wet down and scraped with a 4" taping knife. Most came off but it took
me three hours to clear a basic 4x8 area. The white stuff almost looks
like paint but it softens with water, under that is a coat of paint
that isn't being hurt. The wife is getting a divorce if she ever again
mentions wall paper.

Harry K


When I removed all the wallpaper from "The House of Wallpaper", I found that
there were about eight different wallpapers in there. In the bathrooms, it
was thin, like foil paper. The glue was tenacious, and I was glad that
there was only a small area of that particular wallpaper. On the main
walls, the paper was thick, and if I waited until the water soaked in, a
couple of times I pulled off a full piece from ceiling to floor. But only a
couple of times. The rest came off in a zillion pieces. In the kitchen on
the ceiling, the paper was about a sixteenth of an inch thick, having three
separate layers. I believe that it was put on with different types of glue.

Like you, my wallpaper days are over. The wife knows not to even utter the
word. I made it very very clear that I would finish that one job, but that
she owed me big time. I told her never to ask or volunteer me again as I
had developed an "allergy" to wallpaper, and that the symptoms were
aggression, violence, and unmentionable acts.

So, now, I just give out advice on the Internet to men going through similar
experiences.

Suck it up and get it done. It will be a memory soon, and then only a
frequent nightmare.

And never let her forget she owes you big time.

Steve


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My wife just had the same problem and used DIF Gel with great results.



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Harry K wrote:
Okay, I googled it and got nothing useful.

I removed the wallpaper from the kitchen and want to paint. Of course
the glue residue has to be removed. I have been that route before
using just warm water and scrub pads - not a fun occupation.

I vaguely recall seeing something somewhere about a specific product
for this job, or at least a product that works on it. I bought some
TSP but the local newspaper help column says it is a bad idea as
getting the glue plus tsp residue off cleanly is a problem.

Anybody?

Harry K


Happened to be in the local Ace Hardware. They had both teh DIF gel
and a spray bottle of WP CHOMP. Bought a bottle to try out on removing
the remaining glue (about 4x8). Instructions on that one are to first
pull off the facing of the wallpaper and then soak the paper backing,
wait 5 minutes and pull it off. Just what I did originally.

Tried it on just the glue remaining. Worked better than the Windex I
was using, took less and worked faster. Scraped off the glue with my
tapeing knife. Tomorrow is the test, Paint a section behind the
refrigerator and see what happens. I didn't wash the wall after the
scraping and figure what glue remains probably won't cause a problem,
if it does, a second coat of paint should fix it.

I am also going to use it per the instructions when I move over to the
bathroom.

To say that I am tired of scrubbing is an understatement.

Harry K

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On 14 Aug 2005 19:32:41 -0700, "Harry K"
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Tomorrow is the test, Paint a section behind the
refrigerator and see what happens. I didn't wash the wall after the
scraping and figure what glue remains probably won't cause a problem,
if it does, a second coat of paint should fix it.


No. Learn from *MY* mistake and wash off the glue before painting. I
have THREE coats of paint over old wallpaper glue, and it still
doesn't cover the glue. Mind you, the paint will look great for about
3 months, and then it'll stretch and crack, revealing the glue.
Fortunately, my problem is in a bedroom.
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I would also like to add use an oil based primer first to seal in the
wall. I did this on all my wallpaper removing projects and the paint
job came out great.
Using a latex based paint on the wall without a base primer will cause
the residual glue to bubble over time and peel off the paint.

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I've done a few removals frist you need to score the paper real good
with a wallpaper scorer Then you need to soak it REAL good not just a
mist will do you can spend the $5.00 on dif or just mix some liquid
fabric softener and water in a spray bottle works just as well then
use a wallpaper scraper [large razor knife] remove all paper then re
spray and wipe off glue with a scrubber-sponge prime an paint
On 14 Aug 2005 19:32:41 -0700, "Harry K"
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Harry K wrote:
Okay, I googled it and got nothing useful.

I removed the wallpaper from the kitchen and want to paint. Of course
the glue residue has to be removed. I have been that route before
using just warm water and scrub pads - not a fun occupation.

I vaguely recall seeing something somewhere about a specific product
for this job, or at least a product that works on it. I bought some
TSP but the local newspaper help column says it is a bad idea as
getting the glue plus tsp residue off cleanly is a problem.

Anybody?

Harry K


Happened to be in the local Ace Hardware. They had both teh DIF gel
and a spray bottle of WP CHOMP. Bought a bottle to try out on removing
the remaining glue (about 4x8). Instructions on that one are to first
pull off the facing of the wallpaper and then soak the paper backing,
wait 5 minutes and pull it off. Just what I did originally.

Tried it on just the glue remaining. Worked better than the Windex I
was using, took less and worked faster. Scraped off the glue with my
tapeing knife. Tomorrow is the test, Paint a section behind the
refrigerator and see what happens. I didn't wash the wall after the
scraping and figure what glue remains probably won't cause a problem,
if it does, a second coat of paint should fix it.

I am also going to use it per the instructions when I move over to the
bathroom.

To say that I am tired of scrubbing is an understatement.

Harry K


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