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I have to restore a relative's kitchen wall cabinet carcass (x4) &
worktop end (x1) due to various leaks. They are custom sized, german maker (castle) with an unusual dark brown pippy-oak laminate that is not common these days (1983). Despite custom size, I can get chipboard wall carcass for £120+140 and an end for £70 - but the laminate & colour are miles off. Worse, mountings are perfectly aligned for water, gas & elec services - the existing units used a horizontal baton which hooked over a wall mounted horizontal baton so permitting wall screws to miss services (a fact common units seem oblivious to). I can get PAR euro-oak from SL Hardwoods. That allows me to reduce the wall cabinets from 370mm depth to 265mm depth, allowing me to drop their height considerably (2ft above the worktop with a relative 5'0" is hilarious). I can get a) joint-genie dowel jointing kit for £35-45 or b) Screwfix Erbauer biscuit jointer for £60. The problem with the latter is the fence adjusts at one end and depth gauge is subject to economic forecast error: science fiction. Which would be better - dowel-joint or biscuit-joint? I will need to get the planks pre-cut as no decent table saw, but otherwise simple joinery & assemble. |
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Thanks to both.
Biscuit jointer would make it easier to do a coffee table of 70-80cm length - most are either too small, square or too long. I had seen those fixings on an Ikea cabinet I picked up for "evaluation", did not know screwfix sold them. I can use them to repair/strengthen a wardrobe (stunning german pearl gloss laminate on the most atrocious quality carcass to cut costs). I think Isaac Lord may do some such, I'm sure there is a plastic jig somewhere to go with them. A few more jobs to finish before I begin (found a cable run between tiles & close boarding, would have been fun renailing a few tiles). |
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On Sep 30, 5:02*pm, "js.b1" wrote:
A few more jobs to finish before I begin (found a cable run between tiles & close boarding, would have been fun renailing a few tiles). Nailing? tiles?? How does that work then? |
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On Oct 1, 1:32*pm, Martin Bonner wrote:
On Sep 30, 5:02*pm, "js.b1" wrote: A few more jobs to finish before I begin (found a cable run between tiles & close boarding, would have been fun renailing a few tiles). Nailing? tiles?? *How does that work then? Oops, roof tiles. The roof is low angle close-boarded, the cable had been looped up piercing the felt and across in the baton gap. |
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On 29 Sep, 22:07, "js.b1" wrote:
Which would be better - dowel-joint or biscuit-joint? Almost always, biscuit. Biscuits locate in one axis, aren't fussy about the other. Dowels need you to get _both_ right, which makes them hard work to align and set up. You can do this, but without custom jigs to do it, it's far slower than biscuits. Dowels do have a small advantage in chipboard, as they don't require such a large slot. In chipboard, smaller biscuits are stronger than large ones. If you're biscuiting, use a biscuit jointer and not a router. They're supposed to be quick, or else pointless - cutting them with a router isn't. For a jointer, find a £200 quid one and study the fence design (adjustable for height and angle). Then buy the £50 copy of it. Don't buy the fixed plastic fence versions though, as they're awkward to use. In practice, and when you can, avoid the fence altogether and just place the pieces flat on the benchtop to align them. |
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On Oct 1, 2:26*pm, Andy Dingley wrote:
For a jointer, find a £200 quid one and study the fence design (adjustable for height and angle). Then buy the £50 copy of it. Don't buy the fixed plastic fence versions though, as they're awkward to use. In practice, and when you can, avoid the fence altogether and just place the pieces flat on the benchtop to align them. Noted, and biscuit it is - many thanks for the helpful reply. Screwfix reviews on the Erbauer indicate it just needs alignment & checking it was assembled correctly. Making an external jig (flat benchtop) is simple enough anyway. Indeed avoid any with a plastic fence, I've memories of cheap stamped- metal baseplate jigsaws which true to name required extensive "jigs" to produce anything approaching a decent cast baseplate unit used freehand. |
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