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Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block
& tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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The Medway Handyman wrote:
Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! (a variety of) gin? (The sort which don't come with a slice of lemon.) -- R |
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On 22 Sep, 22:40, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! It's an iron-bound uncle frightener. Anonymous fruit bowls sold separately. -- |
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The Medway Handyman wrote:
Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! Now I know you're feckin' dim! Ever thought of a *T* *R* *I* *P* *O* *D* ? Which when used with a single wheel - is called a tripod and gin wheel and when used with a series of wheels is called,,,,,,,,,,,,,that's it, a tripod with a block and tackle - duh!! Back to the killfile! |
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The Medway Handyman wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! Now I know you're feckin' dim! Ever thought of a *T* *R* *I* *P* *O* *D* ? Which when used with a single wheel - is called a tripod and gin wheel and when used with a series of wheels is called,,,,,,,,,,,,,that's it, a tripod with a block and tackle - duh!! It might have been called that when you were promoted to foreman in nineteen hundred & frozen to death. Thats only because you were too ****ing stupid to be told its proper name. Back to the killfile! ****wit. It has a specific name. Tripod isn't it **** for brains. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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The Medway Handyman wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! Now I know you're feckin' dim! Ever thought of a *T* *R* *I* *P* *O* *D* ? Which when used with a single wheel - is called a tripod and gin wheel and when used with a series of wheels is called,,,,,,,,,,,,,that's it, a tripod with a block and tackle - duh!! Oh, by the way ****wit, three equal poles lashed together would be a tripod. When one pole is longer (clue in the OP) its not a tripod. ****** -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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Lino expert wrote:
On 22 Sep, 22:40, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! It's an iron-bound uncle frightener. Anonymous fruit bowls sold separately. Where can I get a pint of what you are drinking? Or possibly an eighth of what you are smoking? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 22 Sep, 23:18, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: Lino expert wrote: On 22 Sep, 22:40, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! It's an iron-bound uncle frightener. Anonymous fruit bowls sold separately. Where can I get a pint of what you are drinking? *Or possibly an eighth of what you are smoking? Perched atop an arrangement of three poles in a triangle. -- |
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:40:19 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:
Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! Why are you using a block and tackle on your tongue? etc. |
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:40:19 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! A frame? |
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Lino expert wrote:
On 22 Sep, 23:18, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: Lino expert wrote: On 22 Sep, 22:40, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! It's an iron-bound uncle frightener. Anonymous fruit bowls sold separately. Where can I get a pint of what you are drinking? Or possibly an eighth of what you are smoking? Perched atop an arrangement of three poles in a triangle. Nice! |
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:16:50 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:
When one pole is longer (clue in the OP) its not a tripod. You're not thinking of a gyn, are you? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyn) |
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Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! sheerlegs? |
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:40:19 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! Could it be a "Petar". Derek |
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On Sep 23, 9:40 am, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! A trestle? |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! sheerlegs? Thats it! Well done that man & thank you! -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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At the risk of raising MH's wrath some more.
Would an "asymetric tripod" be a fair description? |
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1501 wrote:
At the risk of raising MH's wrath some more. Would an "asymetric tripod" be a fair description? Prolly, wrath only directed at idiots like Unveliever. "This animal is dangerous, if attacked it will defend itself". -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote The Medway Handyman wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! sheerlegs? Apparently spelt shear legs. Not quite sure why, when the legs are in compression! See http://www.hss.com/g/69310/500kg-Shearlegs.html for details. Phil |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote The Medway Handyman wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! sheerlegs? Apparently spelt shear legs. Not quite sure why, when the legs are in compression! See http://www.hss.com/g/69310/500kg-Shearlegs.html for details. The word originally comes from "sheer" = steep. "Shearlegs" is simply a spelling error. Since it's a common one, the dictionaries feel obliged to record it (as they also record "sheering" sheep) but being in a dictionary don't make it right. -- Ian White |
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On 23 Sep, 07:55, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: The Medway Handyman wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! sheerlegs? Thats it! *Well done that man & thank you! -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk Well I don't think that's right - sheers are two poles lashed together for straight lifting from a quay or the likes (like a derrick), shearlegs according to the HSS link given below and other sources, have three equal legs and the lift is central, but a gyn has one longer leg which is how MDH describes his quest, with the pulley on the end of the longer arm. Having said that, this is the result of doing a bit of searching and I wouldn't have known this before. As shear legs are more likely to be still of use nowadays, and gyns is an old fashioned word, I wonder if shear legs incorrectly describes them both now. Rob |
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wrote in message ... On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:40:19 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! A frame? That's a bipod as it only has two legs. Its probably a boil on the end of his tongue. |
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The Medway Handyman wrote: Oh, by the way ****wit, three equal poles lashed together would be a tripod. When one pole is longer (clue in the OP) its not a tripod. Camera tripods have adjustable legs. You may not always use them on a level surface and the 'head' adjustment is limited. Wonder where the name came from. 'Tri' is obvious but pod is usually some form of container. Perhaps an old cooking pot? Or is it a corruption of the French 'pied' -- *If at first you don't succeed, avoid skydiving.* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"TheScullster" wrote in message . uk... "The Natural Philosopher" wrote The Medway Handyman wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! sheerlegs? Apparently spelt shear legs. Not quite sure why, when the legs are in compression! See http://www.hss.com/g/69310/500kg-Shearlegs.html for details. That's a tripod all the sheer legs are the same length. One where they are different lengths is known as an accident in waiting as some fule will attach the tackle to the longer leg and get the CG outside the base. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , The Medway Handyman wrote: Oh, by the way ****wit, three equal poles lashed together would be a tripod. When one pole is longer (clue in the OP) its not a tripod. Camera tripods have adjustable legs. You may not always use them on a level surface and the 'head' adjustment is limited. Wonder where the name came from. 'Tri' is obvious but pod is usually some form of container. Perhaps an old cooking pot? Or is it a corruption of the French 'pied' Possibly from the same line as biped, quadruped etc. It may have started life as triped and changed over time with use as so many words do. -- Keith W Sunbury on Thames (If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living) |
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On 23 Sep, 08:26, "TheScullster" wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote The Medway Handyman wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! sheerlegs? Apparently spelt shear legs. Not quite sure why, when the legs are in compression! Seehttp://www.hss.com/g/69310/500kg-Shearlegs.htmlfor details. But the one in the photo of your link has three EQUAL leg lengths. McK. |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote The Medway Handyman wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! sheerlegs? Apparently spelt shear legs. Hmm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheerleg Not quite sure why, when the legs are in compression! See http://www.hss.com/g/69310/500kg-Shearlegs.html for details. Phil |
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TheScullster wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote The Medway Handyman wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! sheerlegs? Apparently spelt shear legs. Not quite sure why, when the legs are in compression! See http://www.hss.com/g/69310/500kg-Shearlegs.html for details. The word originally comes from "sheer" = steep. "Shearlegs" is simply a spelling error. Since it's a common one, the dictionaries feel obliged to record it (as they also record "sheering" sheep) but being in a dictionary don't make it right. OTOH I think on googling a bit a sheerlegs is actually two poles used as a crane with a rope holding the jib steady. the Gyn is in fact the three legged sort.. |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Ian White wrote: TheScullster wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote The Medway Handyman wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! sheerlegs? Apparently spelt shear legs. Not quite sure why, when the legs are in compression! See http://www.hss.com/g/69310/500kg-Shearlegs.html for details. The word originally comes from "sheer" = steep. "Shearlegs" is simply a spelling error. Since it's a common one, the dictionaries feel obliged to record it (as they also record "sheering" sheep) but being in a dictionary don't make it right. OTOH I think on googling a bit a sheerlegs is actually two poles used as a crane with a rope holding the jib steady. the Gyn is in fact the three legged sort.. You're right, it says so in Wikipedia (but we can soon change that :-) -- Ian White |
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On 22 Sep, 22:40, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? A "Fecking Dodgy" ? You're using one pole as a gin (i.e. an unsupported pole) and you're doing this at an angle, not even vertically. You've had to put the equivalent of four poles together to make something with only the strength of one and no mobility. Gins are inherently dodgy (a slight sway sideways changes the loads from axial compressive to bending, then the whole thing collapses rapidly). This seems safer as it already starts out in the worst-case configuration, but it's not an efficient use of materials. A tripod is three poles, with the weight carried on the junction of the three and thus shared between them. Sheerlegs are a rigid frame in one plane, allowed to hinge at the base. They're usually constructed from two poles, as fixing the ends down is sufficient to hold the frame together. The advantage of sheerlegs is that they're a purely compressive load, not a bending load (as they're free to move), so they don't need clever carpenty and joints to make the frame. There are also the two forms of timberyard crane, but I can't remember the precise names. Both use a fixed tripod, the jib for one is a single beam sheerleg from the ground, the other uses a rigid post & jib, supported at the top by the tripod. These need strong joints (the tripod carries a side-load) and the rigid post version is based on the millwright carpentrythat evolved in the late medieval period. The advantage is that they can slew a load sideways to position it, the first sort can even luff it inwards, and both can be dismantled and re- assembled to move around a yard, woodland or construction site. Names for these are probably in Sandels, Sprague du Camp or even Vitruvius, but those books are at home. |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message om... Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk jib |
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Keith W wrote: Wonder where the name came from. 'Tri' is obvious but pod is usually some form of container. Perhaps an old cooking pot? Or is it a corruption of the French 'pied' Possibly from the same line as biped, quadruped etc. But those are animals etc It may have started life as triped and changed over time with use as so many words do. Perhaps if three legged animals were common. Apart from the odd dog, obviously. -- *Never slap a man who's chewing tobacco * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Keith W wrote: Wonder where the name came from. 'Tri' is obvious but pod is usually some form of container. Perhaps an old cooking pot? Or is it a corruption of the French 'pied' Possibly from the same line as biped, quadruped etc. But those are animals etc It may have started life as triped and changed over time with use as so many words do. Perhaps if three legged animals were common. Apart from the odd dog, obviously. Not sure about your train of thought here. Are you wondering about an incarnation of the term that predates building equipment? Pythia was sat on a tripod. According to the Oxford English Dictionary (and what I know of my native tongue :-)) the "pod" bit comes from the Greek for foot. On a slightly shakier ground, I am not sure we have a different word for leg in Greek. HTH, Kostas |
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Andy Dingley wrote:
Names for these are probably in Sandels, Sprague du Camp or even Vitruvius Not forgetting all those well-thumbed copies of 'Practical Pyramids'. -- Ian White |
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On Sep 23, 7:35*am, McKevvy wrote:
On 23 Sep, 08:26, "TheScullster" wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote The Medway Handyman wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! sheerlegs? Apparently spelt shear legs. Not quite sure why, when the legs are in compression! Seehttp://www.hss.com/g/69310/500kg-Shearlegs.htmlfordetails. But the one in the photo of your link has three EQUAL leg lengths. McK. Wig-wam? |
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:38:21 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:40:19 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! A frame? That's a bipod as it only has two legs. Its probably a boil on the end of his tongue. Where's that damn crucifix when you want it??? |
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Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: According to the Oxford English Dictionary (and what I know of my native tongue :-)) the "pod" bit comes from the Greek for foot. I'd guessed it might mean that in some languages. But pod has meant a container in English for some time - seed pod etc. On a slightly shakier ground, I am not sure we have a different word for leg in Greek. -- *If God had wanted me to touch my toes, he would have put them on my knees Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes In article , The Medway Handyman wrote: Oh, by the way ****wit, three equal poles lashed together would be a tripod. When one pole is longer (clue in the OP) its not a tripod. Camera tripods have adjustable legs. You may not always use them on a level surface and the 'head' adjustment is limited. Wonder where the name came from. 'Tri' is obvious but pod is usually some form of container. Perhaps an old cooking pot? Or is it a corruption of the French 'pied' Same root as podium IWHT -- geoff |
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"Ian White" wrote in message ... TheScullster wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote The Medway Handyman wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! sheerlegs? Apparently spelt shear legs. Not quite sure why, when the legs are in compression! See http://www.hss.com/g/69310/500kg-Shearlegs.html for details. The word originally comes from "sheer" = steep. "Shearlegs" is simply a spelling error. Since it's a common one, the dictionaries feel obliged to record it (as they also record "sheering" sheep) but being in a dictionary don't make it right. 'Sheer=steep' - really? I'd have thought the term 'a sheer drop' would follow the OED etymology where comes from a root meaning 'pure, clear, unbroken'. The OED has the wozzit spelled 'shear-legs', probably from the way that the components are joined like scissors/shears. |
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"Ian White" wrote in message ... TheScullster wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote The Medway Handyman wrote: Three poles in a triangle, one longer that the other two, used with a block & tackle attached to the longer one? Its on the tip of my tongue! sheerlegs? Apparently spelt shear legs. Not quite sure why, when the legs are in compression! See http://www.hss.com/g/69310/500kg-Shearlegs.html for details. The word originally comes from "sheer" = steep. "Shearlegs" is simply a spelling error. Since it's a common one, the dictionaries feel obliged to record it (as they also record "sheering" sheep) but being in a dictionary don't make it right. 'Sheer=steep' - really? I'd have thought the term 'a sheer drop' would follow the OED etymology where comes from a root meaning 'pure, clear, unbroken'. Pure clear unbroken 90 degrees to the horizontal. The OED has the wozzit spelled 'shear-legs', probably from the way that the components are joined like scissors/shears. But they are not joined like that. |
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