At a friend's house and she had a footstool assembled with what I
might call headless knobs, or screw-on rivets. They use a piece of
the threaded rod that are used for drawer knobs, in the middle, and on
each end was like a knob except that almost all of it was missing.
Just something like a rivet with a threaded hole in the middle, that
goes all the way through. The shaft is maybe 3/8" and the head is
maybe 1/2" or a little more and only a couple millimeters high, and
the whole thing is 1/2 long.

What do you call these things?

The current ones are brown, probably brown metallic.

Can I buy them at HD or a hardware store, or do I have to look on the
web?

This footstool matches some of the other furniture, all of which is in
v.good condition.

"mm" wrote in message
...
At a friend's house and she had a footstool assembled with what I
might call headless knobs, or screw-on rivets. They use a piece of
the threaded rod that are used for drawer knobs, in the middle, and on
each end was like a knob except that almost all of it was missing.
Just something like a rivet with a threaded hole in the middle, that
goes all the way through. The shaft is maybe 3/8" and the head is
maybe 1/2" or a little more and only a couple millimeters high, and
the whole thing is 1/2 long.

Is this what you're looking for?

http://www.allproducts.com/metal/eye...ong_t_nut.html

It's a "prong nut", and I've seen them at Home Despot.

"mm" wrote in message
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At a friend's house and she had a footstool assembled with what I
might call headless knobs, or screw-on rivets. They use a piece of
the threaded rod that are used for drawer knobs, in the middle, and on
each end was like a knob except that almost all of it was missing.
Just something like a rivet with a threaded hole in the middle, that
goes all the way through. The shaft is maybe 3/8" and the head is
maybe 1/2" or a little more and only a couple millimeters high, and
the whole thing is 1/2 long.

What do you call these things?

....are you referring to cam-lock screw and nut?

http://www.canwood.com/faq.html#Q3

"mm" wrote in message
...
At a friend's house and she had a footstool assembled with what I
might call headless knobs, or screw-on rivets. They use a piece of
the threaded rod that are used for drawer knobs, in the middle, and on
each end was like a knob except that almost all of it was missing.
Just something like a rivet with a threaded hole in the middle, that
goes all the way through. The shaft is maybe 3/8" and the head is
maybe 1/2" or a little more and only a couple millimeters high, and
the whole thing is 1/2 long.

What do you call these things?

The current ones are brown, probably brown metallic.

Can I buy them at HD or a hardware store, or do I have to look on the
web?

This footstool matches some of the other furniture, all of which is in
v.good condition.

Check the hardware store in the aisle with the pull out boxes full of odd
items. Hillman is the distributor that services most of the stores around
N. Ill. I've seen what you are talking about but can't remember the name.
I believe they were in the box labeled "furniture hardware"..

Tom G.

And I forgot to ask: How do you tighten these things?

There are no flat spots, only a round outside, a round inside, and a
domed top.


On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:26:15 -0500, mm
wrote:

At a friend's house and she had a footstool assembled with what I
might call headless knobs, or screw-on rivets. They use a piece of
the threaded rod that are used for drawer knobs, in the middle, and on
each end was like a knob except that almost all of it was missing.
Just something like a rivet with a threaded hole in the middle, that
goes all the way through. The shaft is maybe 3/8" and the head is
maybe 1/2" or a little more and only a couple millimeters high, and
the whole thing is 1/2 long.

What do you call these things?

The current ones are brown, probably brown metallic.

Can I buy them at HD or a hardware store, or do I have to look on the
web?

This footstool matches some of the other furniture, all of which is in
v.good condition.

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:24:57 GMT, "Noozer" wrote:


"mm" wrote in message
.. .
At a friend's house and she had a footstool assembled with what I
might call headless knobs, or screw-on rivets. They use a piece of
the threaded rod that are used for drawer knobs, in the middle, and on
each end was like a knob except that almost all of it was missing.
Just something like a rivet with a threaded hole in the middle, that
goes all the way through. The shaft is maybe 3/8" and the head is
maybe 1/2" or a little more and only a couple millimeters high, and
the whole thing is 1/2 long.

Is this what you're looking for?

http://www.allproducts.com/metal/eye...ong_t_nut.html

It's a "prong nut", and I've seen them at Home Despot.

Thanks. It's my fault for not giving a better description, but the
ones I need have no prongs. And they're prettier on the side away
from the screw, a nice enamel brown or maybe -- it was not well lit --
some other nice finish.

If I find them, I still don't know how to tighten them. Because I can
use my fingers until the edge gets close to the wood, but after that
the only way to grip them would be to put some sort of reverse
easy-out into the hole.

(It's not the cam-lock either. Thanks again.)

And thanks to Tom for the clues. If we're talking about the same
thing and they are actually in the store, I should have be able to
spend enough time to find them. If I were to have to to hunt on the
web, the name would be much more important.

How do you tighten these things?

Home depot has something similar, but without the hole. I had to
replace one on a sliding glass door once, but I don't remember what
they are called. They are made of thin aluminum and probably aren't
strong enough foir furnature if there's a pulling stress and not just a
sheer.. This type is simply kept from turning by being pressed against
the surface when the screw starts to get tight. If you look carefully
at the ones you're tlaking about, I bet you'll find that the hole has
flat surfaces on the inside and takes an allen wrench. I think I've
seen them on furnature before, but I've never seen them sold
seperately...

Home depot has something similar, but without the hole. I had to
replace one on a sliding glass door once, but I don't remember what
they are called. They are made of thin aluminum and probably aren't
strong enough foir furnature if there's a pulling stress and not just a
sheer.. This type is simply kept from turning by being pressed against
the surface when the screw starts to get tight. If you look carefully
at the ones you're tlaking about, I bet you'll find that the hole has
flat surfaces on the inside and takes an allen wrench. I think I've
seen them on furnature before, but I've never seen them sold
seperately...

On 13 Mar 2006 13:41:14 -0800, "Larry Fishel"
wrote:

Home depot has something similar, but without the hole. I had to
replace one on a sliding glass door once, but I don't remember what
they are called. They are made of thin aluminum and probably aren't
strong enough foir furnature if there's a pulling stress and not just a
sheer..

Well, this piece was the footstool. Is there a difference between
that and ottoman (sp?)? And she said her husband broke it by sitting
on it, and he weighed maybe 300 pounds.

This type is simply kept from turning by being pressed against
the surface when the screw starts to get tight. If you look carefully
at the ones you're tlaking about, I bet you'll find that the hole has
flat surfaces on the inside and takes an allen wrench. I think I've

I did look. Didn't think so, but maybe I missed it. Not too much
light.

An allen wrench would be fine.

seen them on furnature before, but I've never seen them sold
seperately...

Ooo. Well let's hope the other guys are right. I'll go shopping in a
day or two.

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:24:57 GMT, "Noozer" wrote:


"mm" wrote in message
.. .
At a friend's house and she had a footstool assembled with what I
might call headless knobs, or screw-on rivets. They use a piece of
the threaded rod that are used for drawer knobs, in the middle, and on
each end was like a knob except that almost all of it was missing.
Just something like a rivet with a threaded hole in the middle, that
goes all the way through. The shaft is maybe 3/8" and the head is
maybe 1/2" or a little more and only a couple millimeters high, and
the whole thing is 1/2 long.

Is this what you're looking for?

http://www.allproducts.com/metal/eye...ong_t_nut.html

Looking at this again, they call it a prong T nut. I've always called
these T-nuts, but they have a good point. It has prongs. So maybe
what I want is also called a T-nut, just a prongless one. It is
T-shaped, even more so than the ones with prongs. So I'm going to
check this out. Thanks again.

It's a "prong nut", and I've seen them at Home Despot.

"mm" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:24:57 GMT, "Noozer" wrote:


"mm" wrote in message
. ..
At a friend's house and she had a footstool assembled with what I
might call headless knobs, or screw-on rivets. They use a piece of
the threaded rod that are used for drawer knobs, in the middle, and on
each end was like a knob except that almost all of it was missing.
Just something like a rivet with a threaded hole in the middle, that
goes all the way through. The shaft is maybe 3/8" and the head is
maybe 1/2" or a little more and only a couple millimeters high, and
the whole thing is 1/2 long.

Is this what you're looking for?

http://www.allproducts.com/metal/eye...ong_t_nut.html

Looking at this again, they call it a prong T nut. I've always called
these T-nuts, but they have a good point. It has prongs. So maybe
what I want is also called a T-nut, just a prongless one. It is
T-shaped, even more so than the ones with prongs. So I'm going to
check this out. Thanks again.

It's a "prong nut", and I've seen them at Home Despot.




Try www.rockler.com
www.mcmastercarr.com

Whatever it is, if the center is threaded, you should be able to tighten it
by temporarily threading a regular screw into it unless it is reverse
threaded ir something odd like that.

Sounds like custom hardware.

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:42:38 GMT, "PipeDown"
wrote:


Try www.rockler.com
www.mcmastercarr.com

Whatever it is, if the center is threaded, you should be able to tighten it
by temporarily threading a regular screw into it unless it is reverse

Oh, yeah. I should have thought of that. I feel stupid.

YOu screw another piece of that same threaded stuff in it, put a fiber
washer on, and then put a nuts on over that. Tighten the nut and it
will turn the prongless T-nut. Something like that.

I guess I"ve nver done this before, but I did something remotely
similar, and I should have thought of it.

Thanks.

threaded ir something odd like that.

Sounds like custom hardware.

try googling "captive nut" as well as T-nut

"mm" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:42:38 GMT, "PipeDown"

wrote:


Try www.rockler.com
www.mcmastercarr.com

Whatever it is, if the center is threaded, you should be able
to tighten it
by temporarily threading a regular screw into it unless it is
reverse

Oh, yeah. I should have thought of that. I feel stupid.

YOu screw another piece of that same threaded stuff in it, put
a fiber
washer on, and then put a nuts on over that. Tighten the nut
and it
will turn the prongless T-nut. Something like that.

I guess I"ve nver done this before, but I did something
remotely
similar, and I should have thought of it.

Thanks.

threaded ir something odd like that.

Sounds like custom hardware.