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On 4 Aug, 17:51, Adam Aglionby wrote:
Obviously roofing grade concrete http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diZU4bfxrKw Flour mill. They're always difficult to demolish, as they're so strongly constructed. Must be one of the few buildings where you could tip it on its side without it immediately self-dismantling under gravity. One does wonder though just WTF the demolition engineer thought he was doing with such asymmetry though? |
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Andy Dingley writes: On 4 Aug, 17:51, Adam Aglionby wrote: Obviously roofing grade concrete http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diZU4bfxrKw Flour mill. They're always difficult to demolish, as they're so strongly constructed. Must be one of the few buildings where you could tip it on its side without it immediately self-dismantling under gravity. One does wonder though just WTF the demolition engineer thought he was doing with such asymmetry though? I was searching for one I recall in London -- think it was this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsePUn5-88c Next morning, full page ads in many of the daily papers, with a super cool bloke standing in the foreground smoking a cigar, with the half demolished leaning building in the background, and the slogan "Happyness is a cigar called Hamlet". You had to admire the speed that Hamlet and their advertising agency got that into print. Hamlet produced some wonderful adverts in their day, such as: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlYMID5qCdE -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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In article , Andy Dingley writes: On 4 Aug, 17:51, Adam Aglionby wrote: Obviously roofing grade concrete http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diZU4bfxrKw Flour mill. They're always difficult to demolish, as they're so strongly constructed. Must be one of the few buildings where you could tip it on its side without it immediately self-dismantling under gravity. One does wonder though just WTF the demolition engineer thought he was doing with such asymmetry though? I was searching for one I recall in London -- think it was this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsePUn5-88c Next morning, full page ads in many of the daily papers, with a super cool bloke standing in the foreground smoking a cigar, with the half demolished leaning building in the background, and the slogan "Happyness is a cigar called Hamlet". You had to admire the speed that Hamlet and their advertising agency got that into print. Hamlet produced some wonderful adverts in their day, such as: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlYMID5qCdE Thank you. I'd forgotten about both of those. |
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writes Andrew Gabriel wrote: In article , Andy Dingley writes: On 4 Aug, 17:51, Adam Aglionby wrote: Obviously roofing grade concrete http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diZU4bfxrKw Flour mill. They're always difficult to demolish, as they're so strongly constructed. Must be one of the few buildings where you could tip it on its side without it immediately self-dismantling under gravity. One does wonder though just WTF the demolition engineer thought he was doing with such asymmetry though? I was searching for one I recall in London -- think it was this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsePUn5-88c Next morning, full page ads in many of the daily papers, with a super cool bloke standing in the foreground smoking a cigar, with the half demolished leaning building in the background, and the slogan "Happyness is a cigar called Hamlet". You had to admire the speed that Hamlet and their advertising agency got that into print. Hamlet produced some wonderful adverts in their day, such as: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlYMID5qCdE Thank you. I'd forgotten about both of those. Leonard rossiter and the cinzano ad anyone ? -- bumsnase |
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In message , Clot writes Andrew Gabriel wrote: In article , Andy Dingley writes: On 4 Aug, 17:51, Adam Aglionby wrote: Obviously roofing grade concrete http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diZU4bfxrKw Flour mill. They're always difficult to demolish, as they're so strongly constructed. Must be one of the few buildings where you could tip it on its side without it immediately self-dismantling under gravity. One does wonder though just WTF the demolition engineer thought he was doing with such asymmetry though? I was searching for one I recall in London -- think it was this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsePUn5-88c Next morning, full page ads in many of the daily papers, with a super cool bloke standing in the foreground smoking a cigar, with the half demolished leaning building in the background, and the slogan "Happyness is a cigar called Hamlet". You had to admire the speed that Hamlet and their advertising agency got that into print. Hamlet produced some wonderful adverts in their day, such as: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlYMID5qCdE Thank you. I'd forgotten about both of those. Leonard rossiter and the cinzano ad anyone ? You b%gg$r. I almost sprayed the monitor with a red alcoholic liquid from S.A.! |
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Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article , Andy Dingley writes: On 4 Aug, 17:51, Adam Aglionby wrote: Obviously roofing grade concrete http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diZU4bfxrKw Flour mill. They're always difficult to demolish, as they're so strongly constructed. Must be one of the few buildings where you could tip it on its side without it immediately self-dismantling under gravity. One does wonder though just WTF the demolition engineer thought he was doing with such asymmetry though? I was searching for one I recall in London -- think it was this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsePUn5-88c Next morning, full page ads in many of the daily papers, with a super cool bloke standing in the foreground smoking a cigar, with the half demolished leaning building in the background, and the slogan "Happyness is a cigar called Hamlet". You had to admire the speed that Hamlet and their advertising agency got that into print. Hamlet produced some wonderful adverts in their day, such as: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlYMID5qCdE Until Nanny decided she knew best & banned the advertising. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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geoff writes: In message , Clot writes Andrew Gabriel wrote: I was searching for one I recall in London -- think it was this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsePUn5-88c Next morning, full page ads in many of the daily papers, with a super cool bloke standing in the foreground smoking a cigar, with the half demolished leaning building in the background, and the slogan "Happyness is a cigar called Hamlet". You had to admire the speed that Hamlet and their advertising agency got that into print. Hamlet produced some wonderful adverts in their day, such as: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlYMID5qCdE Thank you. I'd forgotten about both of those. If you've got 10 minutes to spare, someone's put them all together. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIckHmwZAeI&NR=1 Leonard rossiter and the cinzano ad anyone ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PirMZGL-0mQ&NR=1 They are fantastic. Same advertising agency. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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In article , geoff writes: In message , Clot writes Andrew Gabriel wrote: I was searching for one I recall in London -- think it was this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsePUn5-88c Next morning, full page ads in many of the daily papers, with a super cool bloke standing in the foreground smoking a cigar, with the half demolished leaning building in the background, and the slogan "Happyness is a cigar called Hamlet". You had to admire the speed that Hamlet and their advertising agency got that into print. Hamlet produced some wonderful adverts in their day, such as: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlYMID5qCdE Thank you. I'd forgotten about both of those. If you've got 10 minutes to spare, someone's put them all together. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIckHmwZAeI&NR=1 Leonard rossiter and the cinzano ad anyone ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PirMZGL-0mQ&NR=1 They are fantastic. Same advertising agency. As you say, they are fantastic. My favourites at the moment are the "Comparethemeerkat.com" ones. |
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"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message .. . In article , Andy Dingley writes: On 4 Aug, 17:51, Adam Aglionby wrote: Obviously roofing grade concrete http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diZU4bfxrKw Flour mill. They're always difficult to demolish, as they're so strongly constructed. Must be one of the few buildings where you could tip it on its side without it immediately self-dismantling under gravity. One does wonder though just WTF the demolition engineer thought he was doing with such asymmetry though? I was searching for one I recall in London -- think it was this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsePUn5-88c Next morning, full page ads in many of the daily papers, with a super cool bloke standing in the foreground smoking a cigar, with the half demolished leaning building in the background, and the slogan "Happyness is a cigar called Hamlet". You had to admire the speed that Hamlet and their advertising agency got that into print. I have only been to one demolition. That also did not go as planned. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7582637.stm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQQoTGaBFV8 It was well worth going to see. Adam |
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"Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On 4 Aug, 17:51, Adam Aglionby wrote: Obviously roofing grade concrete http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diZU4bfxrKw Flour mill. They're always difficult to demolish, as they're so strongly constructed. Must be one of the few buildings where you could tip it on its side without it immediately self-dismantling under gravity. Just out of interest, why are flour mills so strongly constructed? Presumably all that strength costs money and isn't done without good reason. Tim |
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On 2009-08-05, Tim Downie wrote: "Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On 4 Aug, 17:51, Adam Aglionby wrote: Obviously roofing grade concrete http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diZU4bfxrKw Flour mill. They're always difficult to demolish, as they're so strongly constructed. Must be one of the few buildings where you could tip it on its side without it immediately self-dismantling under gravity. Just out of interest, why are flour mills so strongly constructed? Presumably all that strength costs money and isn't done without good reason. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grain_dust_explosion On Mythbusters they created some pretty impresive fireballs using sawdust and flour in an air-cannon, but non-dairy-creamer was even better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRw4ZRqmxOc -- Reentrant |
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On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:04:36 +0000, Huge wrote:
Just out of interest, why are flour mills so strongly constructed? Presumably all that strength costs money and isn't done without good reason. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grain_dust_explosion Yes, I know someone with a grain store out here in the US - the construction's interesting; very strong frame and walls, but the roof is obviously designed as a weak point so that any explosion will be diverted upwards. (I've seen similar intentional weak points inside places that handle explosives - but I suspect a lot of folk don't realise that grain dust in a confined space can be quite potent) |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grain_dust_explosion On Mythbusters they created some pretty impresive fireballs using sawdust and flour in an air-cannon, but non-dairy-creamer was even better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRw4ZRqmxOc Mmm. Non-dairy creamer :-) I had a job once restocking vending machines, and scoffing spoons of that when one was looking. They may have noticed my weight ballooning though... Are vending machines designed sufficiently to contain / avoid powder related explosions? -- Adrian C |
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On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:32:06 -0500, Jules wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:04:36 +0000, Huge wrote: Just out of interest, why are flour mills so strongly constructed? Presumably all that strength costs money and isn't done without good reason. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grain_dust_explosion Yes, I know someone with a grain store out here in the US - the construction's interesting; very strong frame and walls, but the roof is obviously designed as a weak point so that any explosion will be diverted upwards. (I've seen similar intentional weak points inside places that handle explosives - but I suspect a lot of folk don't realise that grain dust in a confined space can be quite potent) and coal dust - don't need firelighters. I was forced in to asking a manufacturer a daft question about fine dust: we were looking at using a substance that was about 5nm, so finer than flour etc. The elfinsafty bods demanded and answer on risk of explosion. In vain I tried to explain that fumed silica had done the burning bit and its bigger form was in buckets around the factory specially for putting out fires. -- Peter. The head of a pin will hold more angels if it's been flattened with an angel-grinder. |
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On 05 Aug 2009 00:05:59 GMT, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
If you've got 10 minutes to spare, someone's put them all together. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIckHmwZAeI&NR=1 Wonderful stuff. Is the 1968 - Launderette one where Levis got their idea from? -- Cheers Dave. |
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"Dave Liquorice" writes: On 05 Aug 2009 00:05:59 GMT, Andrew Gabriel wrote: If you've got 10 minutes to spare, someone's put them all together. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIckHmwZAeI&NR=1 Wonderful stuff. Is the 1968 - Launderette one where Levis got their idea from? Ah, this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT4DR_ae_4o Same thought went through my mind. It's a different agency, but London was the world leader in advertising during this period (and that's one of the most successful ads ever, both as intended for Levi's, and unintended for boxers:-). I didn't recall the 1968 Hamlet advert -- was living in the US then. Strangely, I did recall the 1966 music teacher one, which must have been shown later on too. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:04:36 +0000, Huge wrote:
On 2009-08-05, Tim Downie wrote: "Andy Dingley" wrote in message ... On 4 Aug, 17:51, Adam Aglionby wrote: Obviously roofing grade concrete http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diZU4bfxrKw Flour mill. They're always difficult to demolish, as they're so strongly constructed. Must be one of the few buildings where you could tip it on its side without it immediately self-dismantling under gravity. Just out of interest, why are flour mills so strongly constructed? Presumably all that strength costs money and isn't done without good reason. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grain_dust_explosion Belated thanks for that! It got me reading about the Washburn mill explosion, which was somewhat on local turf - and I happened to be down in St. Paul for the last few days, so hopped over to Minneapolis and took a wander around the mill museum which is on the Washburn site now. Fantastic museum, anyway - and they do a nice little demo of a dust explosion using a model mill, 'dust' (I suspect it was regular houshold flour), and an ignition source. One interesting snippet of info was that a lot of these big explosions aren't caused just by dust naturally circulating in the air. That often only creates a small fire / flash, but results in caked dust being dislodged from equiment, vents etc. - and it's that which provides the fuel for the main event (hence such sites not only have to be kept free of dust in the air, but equipment has to be constantly cleaned to avoid any build-up of material) cheers Jules |