Doctor Drivel wrote:

This man needs to be sectioned and tagged.

Is there anyone that you do not tag and section?

Many need it and the system is letting us down.


Here, Instructions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np3rlniQ2X4

--
Adrian C

Doctor Drivel wrote:

It is release the scale from inside, once gone it will be clear. Run with
it until it has gone. It appears to be working.

Can you do that in English or is Gibberish the limit of your "talent"?

"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:

It is release the scale from inside, once gone it will be clear. Run
with
it until it has gone. It appears to be working.

Can you do that in English or is Gibberish the limit of your "talent"?

This one needs to be tagged.

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I love my showers but have had to put up with having a crap shower
each day for the past 7 or so years, with water going in all
directions apart from on me. I have tried different shower heads but
they all block the same.
I can now have a shower with the water actually getting me wet, and
not the just the walls & floor.

Why don't you just stick the shower head in a tub of dilute acid
every week or so? I've been using the same (sulphamic) solution for
over a year and it still does the job with an overnight soak


Because roughly 12 hours after doing that, the thing starts spraying
random spurts out of the partly blocked holes in a pretty pattern
around the bathroom.

It is release the scale from inside, once gone it will be clear. Run
with it until it has gone. It appears to be working.

Daily, and for how many years do you propose I do this until I get a
decent shower ?

Do you or don't you want scale? It was getting rid of it for you, doing
what it is supposed to do. Unscrewing the shower head a few times a week
until it is gone is not a great thing.



I do not want scale, but even more so, I do not want to clean the
showerhead and flush the system for 30 minutes and refit - only for the
missus and me to have one shower each, and then need to start the whole
cleaning process again.
I will reiterate, the scaling still happens, only it does not build up on
the element as it normally would.

The scale is released through the system slowly, mostly as little specks
which fit rather too conveniently in the holes on the showerhead thus
causing it to **** out at stupid angles rather than on top of the person
standing underneath it.

I had thought about fitting a filter to the hose but imagine that this
would block even quicker than the head, causing the shower unit to
overheat and cut out.

Fit a filter just after the device then it grabs it all in the system. It
is doing what it is supposed to do. Spirovent do fresh water filters.

"Adrian C" wrote in message
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Doctor Drivel wrote:

This man needs to be sectioned and tagged.

Is there anyone that you do not tag and section?

Many need it and the system is letting us down.

Here, Instructions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np3rlniQ2X4

Have you tried to tag this loony?

Doctor Drivel wrote:
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"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
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You should have ran with it longer.

How do you "ran" with something?

You are thicker than what I thought, you need to lern sum Engulish.

If you're going to be pompous, at least make the effort to write
grammatically.

(The correct phrase that escaped you was "You should have RUN with it
longer").

HTH.

Tim

Franko wrote:
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I love my showers but have had to put up with having a crap shower
each day for the past 7 or so years, with water going in all
directions apart from on me. I have tried different shower heads but
they all block the same.
I can now have a shower with the water actually getting me wet, and
not the just the walls & floor.
Why don't you just stick the shower head in a tub of dilute acid every
week or so? I've been using the same (sulphamic) solution for over a
year and it still does the job with an overnight soak

Because roughly 12 hours after doing that, the thing starts spraying
random spurts out of the partly blocked holes in a pretty pattern
around the bathroom.
It is release the scale from inside, once gone it will be clear. Run
with it until it has gone. It appears to be working.
Daily, and for how many years do you propose I do this until I get a
decent shower ?
Do you or don't you want scale? It was getting rid of it for you, doing
what it is supposed to do. Unscrewing the shower head a few times a week
until it is gone is not a great thing.



I do not want scale, but even more so, I do not want to clean the showerhead
and flush the system for 30 minutes and refit - only for the missus and me
to have one shower each, and then need to start the whole cleaning process
again.
I will reiterate, the scaling still happens, only it does not build up on
the element as it normally would.

The scale is released through the system slowly, mostly as little specks
which fit rather too conveniently in the holes on the showerhead thus
causing it to **** out at stupid angles rather than on top of the person
standing underneath it.

I had thought about fitting a filter to the hose but imagine that this would
block even quicker than the head, causing the shower unit to overheat and
cut out.



Sounds like your mains supply is unusually hard.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember saying
something like:

One of the shopping channels is currently selling this. It's just a
wire wrapped around the rising main pipe, presumably creating a
magnetic field.

You just switch it on and leave it.

Anyone tried one of these or anything similar?

I fitted one to my central heating system and it keeps spewing out pound
notes. Bargain!

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I love my showers but have had to put up with having a crap shower
each day for the past 7 or so years, with water going in all
directions apart from on me. I have tried different shower heads
but they all block the same.
I can now have a shower with the water actually getting me wet, and
not the just the walls & floor.
Why don't you just stick the shower head in a tub of dilute acid
every week or so? I've been using the same (sulphamic) solution for
over a year and it still does the job with an overnight soak

Because roughly 12 hours after doing that, the thing starts spraying
random spurts out of the partly blocked holes in a pretty pattern
around the bathroom.
It is release the scale from inside, once gone it will be clear. Run
with it until it has gone. It appears to be working.
Daily, and for how many years do you propose I do this until I get a
decent shower ?
Do you or don't you want scale? It was getting rid of it for you, doing
what it is supposed to do. Unscrewing the shower head a few times a
week until it is gone is not a great thing.



I do not want scale, but even more so, I do not want to clean the
showerhead and flush the system for 30 minutes and refit - only for the
missus and me to have one shower each, and then need to start the whole
cleaning process again.
I will reiterate, the scaling still happens, only it does not build up on
the element as it normally would.

The scale is released through the system slowly, mostly as little specks
which fit rather too conveniently in the holes on the showerhead thus
causing it to **** out at stupid angles rather than on top of the person
standing underneath it.

I had thought about fitting a filter to the hose but imagine that this
would block even quicker than the head, causing the shower unit to
overheat and cut out.

Sounds like your mains supply is unusually hard.


Not especially hard, but hard all the same - central South Coast.

On 25 Feb, 00:45, Owain wrote:

Couldn't resist doing a Google Shopping search for snake oil :-)

Our local shop (a reptile specialist) used to sell it, in tiny bottles
for putting a nice polish on yer' python.

I bought several and handed them out to pointy-haired managers and
sales people, when needed.

On 24 Feb, 22:49, "ARWadsworth"
wrote:

Scale Wizards website states "that water remains chemically unchanged". So
there you have the proof. £90 to do sod all.

It doesn't work by chemistry though, it works by Sympathetic
Relational Vibration (or somesuch homeopathic nonsense). Ask them
about the chemistry and they just wriggle - the claim is that the
composition remains unchanged, but the scale's "inclination" to
crystallise is changed.

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:38:46 -0800, Andy Dingley wrote:

It doesn't work by chemistry though, it works by Sympathetic
Relational Vibration (or somesuch homeopathic nonsense). Ask them
about the chemistry and they just wriggle - the claim is that the
composition remains unchanged, but the scale's "inclination" to
crystallise is changed.


Obviously its crystal energy is subluxated by the sympathetic harmonic
vibrational field. :-|

--
John Stumbles

What is a simile like?

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:06:05 +0000, Jon Fairbairn wrote:

Thanks. Is that 68371? (£40 now) it looks less pretentious
than the Combimate, too. The refills seem to be about £25,
though, so I get 5*25+40 = £165, which is better than the
Combimate, but still suspiciously close to the cost of
replacing the exchanger! [The Screwfix description says "12
month cartridge life", though of course it could last
longer]

Dunno about the stock number but blue tapered canister thingy. Dunno about
the price either - I bought 10 when they were on offer at £20 ea and still
got a load :-)

As for refills I think one should be able to get the dilithium crystals
elsewhere and refill the cartridge (it's just a plastic tube with
a screwed end cap). However I haven't been fitting them long enough
(just over a year) to know how long they last. They do have a load more
crystals in them than the combimates though.

Only problem with them is they're a surprising PITA to fit: they have 3/4"
BSP female connectors and come with 3/4" BSP M x M plastic adapters. Don't
even think of fitting anything else: it's *ever* so easy to cross-thread
them. Nowadays I use 3/4" bath tap flexible tap connector hoses to connect
onto them, but even then one has to drill out the end of the plastic
adapter which is otherwise too thick-bore to mate with the tap connector
end: a conecut is the biz for doing this.

One question about either of these is that they say "Must be
fitted away from direct heat. " The boiler (Ideal Isar¹) case
doesn't get that warm, but it's in a cupboard, so gets
significantly warmer than ambient. Would that be a problem?

I think the issue (as explained by combimate) is that the crystals are a
lot more soluble at higher temperatures, so try to keep the inhibitor cool
for longer life.


[1] Don't say anything!

Damn'. OK.



--
John Stumbles -- http://yaph.co.uk

Things don't like being anthropomorphised.

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:56:25 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

I fitted one to my central heating system and it keeps spewing out pound
notes. Bargain!

Might be if they were still legal tender ;-)

--
John Stumbles

There's nowt as queer as folk.
Especially other folk.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember John Stumbles
saying something like:

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:56:25 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

I fitted one to my central heating system and it keeps spewing out pound
notes. Bargain!

Might be if they were still legal tender ;-)

I've been robbed! Why, that slick doorstep salesman told me it would pay
for itself inside a fortnight.

In message , ARWadsworth
writes

"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
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"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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wrote:

One of the shopping channels is currently selling this. It's just a
wire wrapped around the rising main pipe, presumably creating a
magnetic field.

Oh FFS.

Look there are two schools of thought on this. One is the rational,
scientific view that such a device cannot produce the effects claimed.
And the other is the view of ****wits like Dr Drivel.

This man needs to be sectioned and tagged.


Is there anyone that you do not tag and section?

Well, since all the other inmates of Drivel's home" probably are, it's
all he knows


--
geoff

"geoff" wrote in message
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This man needs to be sectioned and tagged.

Is there anyone that you do not tag and section?

Well, since all the other inmates of Drivel's home" probably are, it's all
he knows

Maxie, at least I have a home and it is increasing in value. Foreclosure in
Watford Maxie? Sad I know. Very sad Maxie. Are you in sheltered
accommodation? My sympathies go out to you.

In message , Doctor Drivel
writes

"Franko" wrote in message
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"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
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"Franko" wrote in message
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"Stuart Noble" wrote in message
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I love my showers but have had to put up with having a crap
shower each day for the past 7 or so years, with water going in
all directions apart from on me. I have tried different shower
heads but they all block the same.
I can now have a shower with the water actually getting me wet,
and not the just the walls & floor.

Why don't you just stick the shower head in a tub of dilute acid
every week or so? I've been using the same (sulphamic) solution
for over a year and it still does the job with an overnight soak


Because roughly 12 hours after doing that, the thing starts
spraying random spurts out of the partly blocked holes in a pretty
pattern around the bathroom.

It is release the scale from inside, once gone it will be clear.
Run with it until it has gone. It appears to be working.

Daily, and for how many years do you propose I do this until I get a
decent shower ?

Do you or don't you want scale? It was getting rid of it for you,
doing what it is supposed to do. Unscrewing the shower head a few
times a week until it is gone is not a great thing.

I think he's worried about the timescale Driv

--
geoff

"geoff" wrote in message
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Do you or don't you want scale? It was getting rid of it for you, doing
what it is supposed to do. Unscrewing the shower head a few times a week
until it is gone is not a great thing.

I think he's worried about the timescale Driv

Maxie, you are just fabulous. Fantastic indeed. What a man! And you play in
a Paddy band too. Fantastic!!!!

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember YAPH saying
something like:

As for refills I think one should be able to get the dilithium crystals
elsewhere and refill the cartridge (it's just a plastic tube with
a screwed end cap). However I haven't been fitting them long enough
(just over a year) to know how long they last. They do have a load more
crystals in them than the combimates though.

I've had a half-bag (refill size) of the sodium polyphosphate crystals
suspended in my cold tank for the past five months and it's lost about
1/3 of its starting weight, so very slow dissolution rate.
As to efficacy - who knows? Certainly, it works via the canister app,
but in a tank, it's too early to say yet. I suspect it is working, as
the soapiness of soap is definitely enhanced.

In message , Doctor Drivel
writes

"geoff" wrote in message
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This man needs to be sectioned and tagged.

Is there anyone that you do not tag and section?

Well, since all the other inmates of Drivel's home" probably are,
it's all he knows

Maxie, at least I have a home and it is increasing in value.
Foreclosure in Watford Maxie? Sad I know. Very sad Maxie. Are you in
sheltered accommodation? My sympathies go out to you.


No mate - I paid my mortgage off years ago

So how much has your house increased in value in the past three months
then ?


Remind me - what sports car did you say you had ?




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geoff

On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:27:41 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

I've had a half-bag (refill size) of the sodium polyphosphate crystals
suspended in my cold tank for the past five months and it's lost about
1/3 of its starting weight, so very slow dissolution rate.
As to efficacy - who knows? Certainly, it works via the canister app,
but in a tank, it's too early to say yet. I suspect it is working, as
the soapiness of soap is definitely enhanced.

I think they do work. I recall one of my plumber colleagues (who's
been in the game for donkey's) remarking about taking out a HW cylinder on
a system with a boil-in-the-bag inhibitor, how light the cylinder was
since it wasn't full of limescale as one usually finds.


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John Stumbles -- http://yaph.co.uk

Pessimists are never disappointed

On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 02:17:22 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

I've been robbed! Why, that slick doorstep salesman told me it would pay
for itself inside a fortnight.

What I like is the "save £200 on detergents" claim!

I suppose OCD washing compulsion is the norm these days :-)

--
John Stumbles -- http://yaph.co.uk

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

"geoff" wrote in message
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In message , Doctor Drivel
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"geoff" wrote in message
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This man needs to be sectioned and tagged.

Is there anyone that you do not tag and section?

Well, since all the other inmates of Drivel's home" probably are, it's
all he knows

Maxie, at least I have a home and it is increasing in value. Foreclosure
in Watford Maxie? Sad I know. Very sad Maxie. Are you in sheltered
accommodation? My sympathies go out to you.

No mate - I paid my mortgage off years ago

Ran in to debt eh! They came for the house. Sad I know Maxie. Very sad.
I'm sure you will get over it in time. Just keep playing in the Paddy band
Maxie, play your cares away. Diddly, dee, diddly dee, dee, dee.

Remind me - what sports car did you say you had ?

Maxie, 'fraid sports cars are beyond you now. I suppose you can dream
though. Dream on Maxie, dream on. Don't let go.

In message , Doctor Drivel
writes

"geoff" wrote in message
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In message , Doctor Drivel
writes

"geoff" wrote in message
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This man needs to be sectioned and tagged.

Is there anyone that you do not tag and section?

Well, since all the other inmates of Drivel's home" probably are,
it's all he knows

Maxie, at least I have a home and it is increasing in value.
Foreclosure in Watford Maxie? Sad I know. Very sad Maxie. Are you
in sheltered accommodation? My sympathies go out to you.

No mate - I paid my mortgage off years ago

Ran in to debt eh! They came for the house.

Ask nursie for some more meds - you're losing it again


Remind me - what sports car did you say you had ?

Maxie, 'fraid sports cars are beyond you now.

Behind was the word you were looking for

I prefer 2 wheels

So what was the sports car you claimed to have a couple of years ago ?





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geoff

"geoff" wrote in message
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Ran in to debt eh! They came for the house.

Ask nursie for some more meds - you're losing it again

Maxie it is you who is losing it - your house.

Remind me - what sports car did you say you had ?

Maxie, 'fraid sports cars are beyond you now.

Behind was the word you were looking for

I prefer 2 wheels

Maxie, get three wheels they are better. Those Reliant Robins can get you
around. Get the van, can you dodge the bailiffs moving stuff around.

So what was the sports car you claimed to have a couple of years ago ?

Maxie, it is out of your grasp. The Reliant Robin is the ideal choice for
you. Maxie, you are fantastic! The way you cope and dodge all these
bailiffs who hammer on the door. Fantastic, and you are even in a Paddy
band too. What a man!