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Can anyone point me towards a phone or online supplier for an
inexpensive, cylindrical, enclosed reed switch, Normally Closed, for use as door sensors in a burglar alarm circuit please. I'm still googling but so far without success and want to place an order for delivery Monday. Thought I'd found one but it's a Normally Open type. (BTW, I was surprised how many don't specify that crucial detail.) -- Terry, East Grinstead, UK |
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:35:45 +0000, Terry Pinnell
wrote: Can anyone point me towards a phone or online supplier for an inexpensive, cylindrical, enclosed reed switch, Normally Closed, for use as door sensors in a burglar alarm circuit please. I'm still googling but so far without success and want to place an order for delivery Monday. Thought I'd found one but it's a Normally Open type. (BTW, I was surprised how many don't specify that crucial detail.) Not being funny but do you really want a NC switch ? That would infer, when the door is closed, the switch would be open. Normally, the switch would be closed when the door is closed. i.e. a NO switch. Sorry if that's incorrect. |
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In message , Terry Pinnell
writes Can anyone point me towards a phone or online supplier for an inexpensive, cylindrical, enclosed reed switch, Normally Closed, for use as door sensors in a burglar alarm circuit please. I'm still googling but so far without success and want to place an order for delivery Monday. Thought I'd found one but it's a Normally Open type. (BTW, I was surprised how many don't specify that crucial detail.) When you say Nc do you mean when the door is closed? This would be typical as it then goes open when the door is opened. Most are No until the magnet is placed near them. Maybe? http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=4767 Perhaps? http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/s...?method=retrie veTfg&Ne=4294922322&Ntt=reed&Nr=AND(avl%3auk%2csea rchDiscon_uk%3aN)&Ntk=I 18NAll&Ntx=mode%2bmatchallpartial&N=4294954000+429 4917138&Ns=stockPolicy_ uk|1||new_uk|1&Nty=1&binCount=235#breadCrumb http://www.screwfix.com/prods/39061/...er-Alarm-Compo nents/Honeywell-Door-Wired-Recess-Mount-Contact -- Bill |
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:35:45 +0000, Terry Pinnell wrote:
Can anyone point me towards a phone or online supplier for an inexpensive, cylindrical, enclosed reed switch, Normally Closed, for use as door sensors in a burglar alarm circuit please. I'm still googling but so far without success and want to place an order for delivery Monday. Thought I'd found one but it's a Normally Open type. (BTW, I was surprised how many don't specify that crucial detail.) Normally closed (i.e. closed when the door is open) would be more likely. Maplin lists alarm reed switches he http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?...itch&source=15 ....even some change-over types, albeit bare reeds. |
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Goodfellow writes Normally closed (i.e. closed when the door is open) would be more likely. Maplin lists alarm reed switches he Eh? To quote Maplin:- "The reed makes contact when subjected to a magnetic field." i.e. when the door is closed and the reed next to the magnet. So that you can have a number of them wired in series and any one opening will be detected. http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?...itch&source=15 ...even some change-over types, albeit bare reeds. -- Bill |
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Terry Pinnell wrote: Can anyone point me towards a phone or online supplier for an inexpensive, cylindrical, enclosed reed switch, Normally Closed, for use as door sensors in a burglar alarm circuit please. I'm still googling but so far without success and want to place an order for delivery Monday. Thought I'd found one but it's a Normally Open type. (BTW, I was surprised how many don't specify that crucial detail.) Two options. Replace the reed switch in a normal one with what you want - changeover types are available. Or since most alarm cables have 12 volts available for powering sensors, use a transistor to swap the action. -- *Why doesn't glue stick to the inside of the bottle? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:05:16 +0000, Bill wrote:
In message , Frazer Jolly Goodfellow writes Normally closed (i.e. closed when the door is open) would be more likely. Maplin lists alarm reed switches he Eh? To quote Maplin:- "The reed makes contact when subjected to a magnetic field." i.e. when the door is closed and the reed next to the magnet. So that you can have a number of them wired in series and any one opening will be detected. http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?...itch&source=15 ...even some change-over types, albeit bare reeds. Eh? indeed. Invert everything I said. Also means that snipping the wire will trip the alarm. |
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Terry Pinnell writes: Can anyone point me towards a phone or online supplier for an inexpensive, cylindrical, enclosed reed switch, Normally Closed, for use as door sensors in a burglar alarm circuit please. I'm still googling but so far without success and want to place an order for delivery Monday. Thought I'd found one but it's a Normally Open type. (BTW, I was surprised how many don't specify that crucial detail.) http://cpc.farnell.com/unbranded/a40...als/dp/SR00148 They're all normally closed when the door is closed. That's what burglar alarms normally expect (although some can be programmed to work the other way around). -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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On Feb 7, 4:35*pm, Terry Pinnell
wrote: Can anyone point me towards a phone or online supplier for an inexpensive, cylindrical, enclosed reed switch, Normally Closed, for use as door sensors in a burglar alarm circuit please. I'm still googling but so far without success and want to place an order for delivery Monday. Thought I'd found one but it's a Normally Open type. (BTW, I was surprised how many don't specify that crucial detail.) -- Terry, East Grinstead, UK i dont know much about it but i think http://www.dashmeshheaters.com might help you in solving there problem thanks |
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Thanks all. I was indeed wrong about the type, of course. In
mitigation, there's some ambiguity IMO over the meaning of 'normally open'. I'd forgotten that the magnet was (normally!) keeping it closed! I was regarding 'normality' as the state when my doors are closed ;-) I did realise my mistake soon after posting and duly ordered a few from Rapid Electronics http://www.rapidonline.com/Electroni...354/kw/78-0797 -- Terry, East Grinstead, UK |
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:35:45 +0000, Terry Pinnell
wrote: Can anyone point me towards a phone or online supplier for an inexpensive, cylindrical, enclosed reed switch, Normally Closed, for use as door sensors in a burglar alarm circuit please. Seems you've found the solution. However I've used these NC devices in the past and they consist of a standard reed switch with an attached 'slave' magnet which holds the contacts closed. The actuating magnet has to be correctly positioned to cancel the field of the slave when the two come together. As might be expected, not straightforward to set up. GrahamC |
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Graham C writes: On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:35:45 +0000, Terry Pinnell wrote: Can anyone point me towards a phone or online supplier for an inexpensive, cylindrical, enclosed reed switch, Normally Closed, for use as door sensors in a burglar alarm circuit please. Seems you've found the solution. However I've used these NC devices in the past and they consist of a standard reed switch with an attached 'slave' magnet which holds the contacts closed. The actuating magnet has to be correctly positioned to cancel the field of the slave when the two come together. As might be expected, not straightforward to set up. If someone really needed a magnetic switch which worked the other way around, there are changeover reed switches available, so you have a NO and NC contact. (They aren't used in burglar alarms though.) -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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