Hi could someone please tell me if I run a washer/dryer as a dryer
only, do I still need both hot and cold connections to the rear? Can I
take both of them off? Thanks to any replies.

Jon

uncertainsmile wrote:

Hi could someone please tell me if I run a washer/dryer as a dryer
only, do I still need both hot and cold connections to the rear? Can I
take both of them off? Thanks to any replies.

If it's a condenser type it will still need a water supply, but it won't
need hot, if it helped you could supply hot and cold with cold through a
"Y" adapter.

Andy Burns wrote:
uncertainsmile wrote:

Hi could someone please tell me if I run a washer/dryer as a dryer
only, do I still need both hot and cold connections to the rear? Can
I take both of them off? Thanks to any replies.

If it's a condenser type it will still need a water supply, but it
won't need hot, if it helped you could supply hot and cold with cold
through a "Y" adapter.

It probably won't be as efficient as a proper tumble dryer though which is
optimised for drying and has a larger drum. Always worth asking on
Freecycle.

Tim.

Andy Burns wrote:
uncertainsmile wrote:

Hi could someone please tell me if I run a washer/dryer as a dryer
only, do I still need both hot and cold connections to the rear? Can
I take both of them off? Thanks to any replies.

If it's a condenser type it will still need a water supply, but it
won't need hot, if it helped you could supply hot and cold with cold
through a "Y" adapter.

'Y' adaptors are the spawn of satan.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

The Medway Handyman wrote:

'Y' adaptors are the spawn of satan.

Explain ...

Andy Burns wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:

'Y' adaptors are the spawn of satan.

Explain ...

Assuming we both mean those nasty white plastic things with a female one end
& two males?

They are a leak waiting to happen. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but
they will leak guaranteed.

Every one I've fitted has leaked eventually & had to be replaced by putting
in a proper valve etc.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

The Medway Handyman wrote:


Assuming we both mean those nasty white plastic things with a female one end
& two males?

Yes, that sort of thing.

They are a leak waiting to happen. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but
they will leak guaranteed.

At least the last two washing machines have come with them, but I've
never fitted them, however the latest machine seems to drink so little
water that unless the hot tap has drawn off the cold water in the
longish run of hot pipe, it only gets cold water via the hot fill anyway.

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
et...
The Medway Handyman wrote:

'Y' adaptors are the spawn of satan.

Explain ...

Isn't it against regulations to connect hot and cold together in
this way?
Isn't this why mixer-taps have to have separate conduits
right the way to the spout?

If the above is true, how do TMVs work?

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

Graham. wrote:

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
et...
The Medway Handyman wrote:

'Y' adaptors are the spawn of satan.
Explain ...

Isn't it against regulations to connect hot and cold together in
this way?

It would be, except ... you're not using the "Y" to connect H and C
together and then feeding into the washing machine, you're using it to
split the cold supply and feed two supplies to washing machine's H and C
inputs.

Andy Burns wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:


Assuming we both mean those nasty white plastic things with a female
one end & two males?

Yes, that sort of thing.

They are a leak waiting to happen. Maybe not today, maybe not
tomorrow, but they will leak guaranteed.

At least the last two washing machines have come with them, but I've
never fitted them,

Good! Throw them in the bin right away. Burn them, trample on then, on no
account try to use one!

however the latest machine seems to drink so little
water that unless the hot tap has drawn off the cold water in the
longish run of hot pipe, it only gets cold water via the hot fill
anyway.

Thats why all modern machines are cold fill. Just disconnect & blank off
the hot supply.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

uncertainsmile wrote:

Hi could someone please tell me if I run a washer/dryer as a dryer
only, do I still need both hot and cold connections to the rear? Can I
take both of them off? Thanks to any replies.

Jon

You'd need cold feed and drainage connected. 2 in 1 machines tend to
take less clothes.
Much better imho:
http://www.wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index....=Clothes_Dryer


NT

"uncertainsmile" wrote in message
...
Hi could someone please tell me if I run a washer/dryer as a dryer
only, do I still need both hot and cold connections to the rear? Can I
take both of them off? Thanks to any replies.

Jon


Very inefficient. Very expensive in running costs. The small heater
elements in all washer dryers don't last very long. The whole machine,
because they are un-vented, clogs with fluff unless you have a water spray
to clear the air cavity out.

A washer dryer has to be connected to at least the cold water system so that
the air cavity is flushed and pumped out on a regular basis. When the dryer
is doing its thing, it makes the clothes give off fluff at an amazing rate,
just like a normal tumble dryer, but the washer dryer doesn't have a big
vent hole which clears the fluff into the area you have the vent pointed at.
The machine actually uses a spray action to clear the air of fluff so it
doesn't clog up. The water washes the fluff down into a sump bottle and is
then pumped out as a sludge of water and fluff, down the drain.

Just using the machine as a dryer will cost a fortune because the element is
so small and the drying action on the tumble cycle is very poor. It takes
twice as long to tumble dry a full load of clothes than in a standard tumble
dryer, and so costs twice as much in running costs.

To me, it is not a thing I would recommend anyone to use, or even buy in the
first place for that matter. If you want or need a washer dryer system, buy
separate units and stack them together in a corner of the room. Throw the
vent hose out of a window when you use the dryer. It's a lot more
economical.

On 7 Dec, 01:41, wrote:
uncertainsmile wrote:
Hi could someone please tell me if I run a washer/dryer as a dryer
only, do I still need both hot and cold connections to the rear? Can I
take both of them off? Thanks to any replies.

Jon

You'd need cold feed and drainage connected. 2 in 1 machines tend to
take less clothes.
Much better imho:http://www.wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index....=Clothes_Dryer

NT

In the DIY wiki article it says: "The John Lewis heat pump tumble
dryer claims 2.1kWh per 5kg cycle." There's a link to the John Lewis
website, but it's broken, and the search engine is useless. Anyone
know exactly which model this is?

BigWallop wrote:
"uncertainsmile" wrote in message
...
Hi could someone please tell me if I run a washer/dryer as a dryer
only, do I still need both hot and cold connections to the rear? Can I
take both of them off? Thanks to any replies.

Jon


Very inefficient. Very expensive in running costs. The small heater
elements in all washer dryers don't last very long. The whole machine,
because they are un-vented, clogs with fluff unless you have a water spray
to clear the air cavity out.

A washer dryer has to be connected to at least the cold water system so that
the air cavity is flushed and pumped out on a regular basis. When the dryer
is doing its thing, it makes the clothes give off fluff at an amazing rate,
just like a normal tumble dryer, but the washer dryer doesn't have a big
vent hole which clears the fluff into the area you have the vent pointed at.
The machine actually uses a spray action to clear the air of fluff so it
doesn't clog up. The water washes the fluff down into a sump bottle and is
then pumped out as a sludge of water and fluff, down the drain.

Just using the machine as a dryer will cost a fortune because the element is
so small and the drying action on the tumble cycle is very poor. It takes
twice as long to tumble dry a full load of clothes than in a standard tumble
dryer, and so costs twice as much in running costs.

how does half the power for twice as long equal twice the run cost?

To me, it is not a thing I would recommend anyone to use, or even buy in the
first place for that matter. If you want or need a washer dryer system, buy
separate units and stack them together in a corner of the room. Throw the
vent hose out of a window when you use the dryer. It's a lot more
economical.

Not at all - but yes, theyre a poor relative.


NT

Martin Pentreath writes:

On 7 Dec, 01:41, wrote:
uncertainsmile wrote:
Hi could someone please tell me if I run a washer/dryer as a dryer
only, do I still need both hot and cold connections to the rear? Can I
take both of them off? Thanks to any replies.

Jon

You'd need cold feed and drainage connected. 2 in 1 machines tend to
take less clothes.
Much better imho:http://www.wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index....=Clothes_Dryer

NT

In the DIY wiki article it says: "The John Lewis heat pump tumble
dryer claims 2.1kWh per 5kg cycle." There's a link to the John Lewis
website, but it's broken, and the search engine is useless. Anyone
know exactly which model this is?

I don't, but selecting options to get to John Lewis brand
tumble dryers turns up only three models, only two of which
are condensing. This one
http://www.johnlewis.com/230475118/Product.aspx is
reckoned to do 7kg with 2.4kWh, so I'd guess they've changed
the models. Look at the price though!

--
Jón Fairbairn
http://www.chaos.org.uk/~jf/Stuff-I-dont-want.html (updated 2008-04-26)