Hi
Our cistern is just a few years old and the working parts are all
white plastic. The float rises and falls on a central column of white
plastic. I presume deposits from hard water are increasing friction.

I have so far just cleaned the column by rubbing my fingers along the
surfaces. But what else can I do lubrication?

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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:27:20 -0800 (PST), zzapper
wrote:

Hi
Our cistern is just a few years old and the working parts are all
white plastic. The float rises and falls on a central column of white
plastic. I presume deposits from hard water are increasing friction.

I have so far just cleaned the column by rubbing my fingers along the
surfaces. But what else can I do lubrication?

Not sure what you mean by " rises and falls on a central column of
white plastic " Floats "pivot" on an attachment so i don't see how
cleaning the column will help.
What happens if you empty the cistern and lift the float ...does it
rise and fall freely when you let go .I'm guessing not by subject line
.. If not then you need to attend to where it pivots as that will be
where the problem lies . It's probably more important that it comes
back up when the water level reaches the float but it should move
freely.

Has the inlet valve been replaced at all?

Does it look like this?
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/55211/...-Torbeck-Valve

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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:27:20 -0800 (PST), zzapper
wrote:

Hi
Our cistern is just a few years old and the working parts are all
white plastic. The float rises and falls on a central column of white
plastic. I presume deposits from hard water are increasing friction.

I have so far just cleaned the column by rubbing my fingers along the
surfaces. But what else can I do lubrication?

Not sure what you mean by " rises and falls on a central column of
white plastic " Floats "pivot" on an attachment so i don't see how
cleaning the column will help.
What happens if you empty the cistern and lift the float ...does it
rise and fall freely when you let go .I'm guessing not by subject line
. If not then you need to attend to where it pivots as that will be
where the problem lies . It's probably more important that it comes
back up when the water level reaches the float but it should move
freely.

Has the inlet valve been replaced at all?

Does it look like this?
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/55211/...-Torbeck-Valve




More like a Fluidmaster.

On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:55:57 -0000, "John"
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:27:20 -0800 (PST), zzapper
wrote:

Hi
Our cistern is just a few years old and the working parts are all
white plastic. The float rises and falls on a central column of white
plastic. I presume deposits from hard water are increasing friction.

I have so far just cleaned the column by rubbing my fingers along the
surfaces. But what else can I do lubrication?

Not sure what you mean by " rises and falls on a central column of
white plastic " Floats "pivot" on an attachment so i don't see how
cleaning the column will help.
What happens if you empty the cistern and lift the float ...does it
rise and fall freely when you let go .I'm guessing not by subject line
. If not then you need to attend to where it pivots as that will be
where the problem lies . It's probably more important that it comes
back up when the water level reaches the float but it should move
freely.

Has the inlet valve been replaced at all?

Does it look like this?
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/55211/...-Torbeck-Valve




More like a Fluidmaster.

Can't say I had heard of them .What's the advantage of them ? looks
too complicated .I'll settle for the Torbeck one I have .

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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:55:57 -0000, "John"
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:27:20 -0800 (PST), zzapper
wrote:

Hi
Our cistern is just a few years old and the working parts are all
white plastic. The float rises and falls on a central column of white
plastic. I presume deposits from hard water are increasing friction.

I have so far just cleaned the column by rubbing my fingers along the
surfaces. But what else can I do lubrication?

Not sure what you mean by " rises and falls on a central column of
white plastic " Floats "pivot" on an attachment so i don't see how
cleaning the column will help.
What happens if you empty the cistern and lift the float ...does it
rise and fall freely when you let go .I'm guessing not by subject line
. If not then you need to attend to where it pivots as that will be
where the problem lies . It's probably more important that it comes
back up when the water level reaches the float but it should move
freely.

Has the inlet valve been replaced at all?

Does it look like this?
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/55211/...-Torbeck-Valve




More like a Fluidmaster.

Can't say I had heard of them .What's the advantage of them ? looks
too complicated .I'll settle for the Torbeck one I have .

The Fluidmaster has a float that surrounds the column:

http://www.wickes.co.uk/invt/420072

On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 10:54:19 -0000, "John"
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:55:57 -0000, "John"
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:27:20 -0800 (PST), zzapper
wrote:

Hi
Our cistern is just a few years old and the working parts are all
white plastic. The float rises and falls on a central column of white
plastic. I presume deposits from hard water are increasing friction.

I have so far just cleaned the column by rubbing my fingers along the
surfaces. But what else can I do lubrication?

Not sure what you mean by " rises and falls on a central column of
white plastic " Floats "pivot" on an attachment so i don't see how
cleaning the column will help.
What happens if you empty the cistern and lift the float ...does it
rise and fall freely when you let go .I'm guessing not by subject line
. If not then you need to attend to where it pivots as that will be
where the problem lies . It's probably more important that it comes
back up when the water level reaches the float but it should move
freely.

Has the inlet valve been replaced at all?

Does it look like this?
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/55211/...-Torbeck-Valve




More like a Fluidmaster.

Can't say I had heard of them .What's the advantage of them ? looks
too complicated .I'll settle for the Torbeck one I have .

The Fluidmaster has a float that surrounds the column:

http://www.wickes.co.uk/invt/420072

Yeah I looked up to see how they work but what's the advantage of
them?

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On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 10:54:19 -0000, "John"
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:55:57 -0000, "John"
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:27:20 -0800 (PST), zzapper
wrote:

Hi
Our cistern is just a few years old and the working parts are all
white plastic. The float rises and falls on a central column of white
plastic. I presume deposits from hard water are increasing friction.

I have so far just cleaned the column by rubbing my fingers along the
surfaces. But what else can I do lubrication?

Not sure what you mean by " rises and falls on a central column of
white plastic " Floats "pivot" on an attachment so i don't see how
cleaning the column will help.
What happens if you empty the cistern and lift the float ...does it
rise and fall freely when you let go .I'm guessing not by subject line
. If not then you need to attend to where it pivots as that will be
where the problem lies . It's probably more important that it comes
back up when the water level reaches the float but it should move
freely.

Has the inlet valve been replaced at all?

Does it look like this?
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/55211/...-Torbeck-Valve




More like a Fluidmaster.

Can't say I had heard of them .What's the advantage of them ? looks
too complicated .I'll settle for the Torbeck one I have .

The Fluidmaster has a float that surrounds the column:

http://www.wickes.co.uk/invt/420072

Yeah I looked up to see how they work but what's the advantage of
them?

Dunno - It suited the space in the corner of the cistern It claimed to be
quiet (it is) and perhaps I read a recommendation on this group just before
I bought it.

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On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 10:54:19 -0000, "John"
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:55:57 -0000, "John"
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:27:20 -0800 (PST), zzapper
wrote:

Hi
Our cistern is just a few years old and the working parts are all
white plastic. The float rises and falls on a central column of white
plastic. I presume deposits from hard water are increasing friction.

I have so far just cleaned the column by rubbing my fingers along the
surfaces. But what else can I do lubrication?

Not sure what you mean by " rises and falls on a central column of
white plastic " Floats "pivot" on an attachment so i don't see how
cleaning the column will help.
What happens if you empty the cistern and lift the float ...does it
rise and fall freely when you let go .I'm guessing not by subject line
. If not then you need to attend to where it pivots as that will be
where the problem lies . It's probably more important that it comes
back up when the water level reaches the float but it should move
freely.

Has the inlet valve been replaced at all?

Does it look like this?
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/55211/...-Torbeck-Valve




More like a Fluidmaster.

Can't say I had heard of them .What's the advantage of them ? looks
too complicated .I'll settle for the Torbeck one I have .

The Fluidmaster has a float that surrounds the column:

http://www.wickes.co.uk/invt/420072

Yeah I looked up to see how they work but what's the advantage of
them?

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One possibility is that the standard lever arm + ball valve can foul the
flapper type of syphon if fitted. It makes sense to fit both parts of the
'Fluidmaster' arrangement to avoid the potential problem.

Cic.

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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:55:57 -0000, "John"
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:27:20 -0800 (PST), zzapper
wrote:

Hi
Our cistern is just a few years old and the working parts are all
white plastic. The float rises and falls on a central column of white
plastic. I presume deposits from hard water are increasing friction.

I have so far just cleaned the column by rubbing my fingers along the
surfaces. But what else can I do lubrication?

Not sure what you mean by " rises and falls on a central column of
white plastic " *Floats "pivot" on an attachment *so i don't see how
cleaning the column will help.
What happens if you empty the cistern and lift the float ...does it
rise and fall freely when you let go .I'm guessing not by subject line
. If not then you need to attend to where it pivots as that will be
where the problem lies . It's probably more important that it comes
back up when the water level reaches the float but it should move
freely.

Has the inlet valve been replaced at all?

Does it look like this?
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/55211/...tings/Adjustab....

More like a Fluidmaster.

Can't say I had heard of them .What's the advantage of them ? looks
too *complicated .I'll settle for the Torbeck one I have .

The Fluidmaster has a float that surrounds the column:

http://www.wickes.co.uk/invt/420072

Sorry couldnt get back to Newsgroup until now.
Yes it looks similar to your link. The trouble with this design is
that there is a large friction area for limescale especially the inner
surface of the float. Is there a cleaning product?

Dave

The Fluidmaster has a float that surrounds the column:

http://www.wickes.co.uk/invt/420072

Sorry couldnt get back to Newsgroup until now.
Yes it looks similar to your link. The trouble with this design is
that there is a large friction area for limescale especially the inner
surface of the float. Is there a cleaning product?

Dave

I haven't had a problem yet. Is yours perhaps not truly vertical? However -
I notice my float tilts slightly as it gets near to filling. Try a little
washing up liquid (and enjoy foaming flushes) - it can tend to lubricate
things a bit.