Got a problem with the kitchen HW tap - it turns about I complete turn
and no water comes out. This happened all of a sudden. HW elsewhere
works fine.

I can't seem to dismantle it - I removed the screw that would appear to
attach the handle to the body but it seems stuck. It's been soaking in
WD40 for about an hour. I don't understand why it has an insert for an
allen key - I'm reluctant to apply to much force, although I have given
the whole thing a tap with a hammer. Any ideas? I need to get the handle
off the access the valve.

Plan B was to simply replace the whole tap assembly, but that's not
looking good because it appears to have been welded to the pipes:

http://patchoulian.googlepages.com/tap

Incidentally, the muck around the tap fell out when I unscrewed the collar.

Thanks, Rob

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:20:49 +0100, Rob
wrote:

Got a problem with the kitchen HW tap - it turns about I complete turn
and no water comes out. This happened all of a sudden. HW elsewhere
works fine.

I can't seem to dismantle it - I removed the screw that would appear to
attach the handle to the body but it seems stuck. It's been soaking in
WD40 for about an hour. I don't understand why it has an insert for an
allen key - I'm reluctant to apply to much force, although I have given
the whole thing a tap with a hammer. Any ideas? I need to get the handle
off the access the valve.

Plan B was to simply replace the whole tap assembly, but that's not
looking good because it appears to have been welded to the pipes:

http://patchoulian.googlepages.com/tap

Incidentally, the muck around the tap fell out when I unscrewed the collar.

Thanks, Rob

Treat yourself to a new tap. It's a monobloc . Turn the water off and
disconnect the tails underneath and remove the nut holding the tap to
the draining board/sink. When replacing you might consider flexible
tails . If you don't want to replace the tap then removing it as I
said would probably make it easier for you to take it apart when it is
off the sink .

"Rob" wrote in message
...
Got a problem with the kitchen HW tap - it turns about I complete turn and
no water comes out. This happened all of a sudden. HW elsewhere works
fine.

I can't seem to dismantle it - I removed the screw that would appear to
attach the handle to the body but it seems stuck. It's been soaking in
WD40 for about an hour. I don't understand why it has an insert for an
allen key - I'm reluctant to apply to much force, although I have given
the whole thing a tap with a hammer. Any ideas? I need to get the handle
off the access the valve.

Plan B was to simply replace the whole tap assembly, but that's not
looking good because it appears to have been welded to the pipes:

http://patchoulian.googlepages.com/tap

Incidentally, the muck around the tap fell out when I unscrewed the
collar.

Thanks, Rob

Not sure from photo that it is for an Allen Key - is the shaft hexagonal?
(and maybe tapered) Perhaps someone else has a similar design. If it is a
tapered hex shaft then a sharp hit from under the handle is needed.

Rob wrote:
Got a problem with the kitchen HW tap - it turns about I complete turn
and no water comes out. This happened all of a sudden. HW elsewhere
works fine.

I can't seem to dismantle it - I removed the screw that would appear
to attach the handle to the body but it seems stuck. It's been
soaking in WD40 for about an hour. I don't understand why it has an
insert for an allen key - I'm reluctant to apply to much force,
although I have given the whole thing a tap with a hammer. Any ideas?
I need to get the handle off the access the valve.

Plan B was to simply replace the whole tap assembly, but that's not
looking good because it appears to have been welded to the pipes:

http://patchoulian.googlepages.com/tap

Incidentally, the muck around the tap fell out when I unscrewed the
collar.

Does the collar unscrew enough for you to see a brass hexagon?



--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

Treat yourself to a new tap. It's a monobloc . Turn the water off and
disconnect the tails underneath and remove the nut holding the tap to
the draining board/sink.

IIRC the monobloc we have in our kitchen has "screw-in" tails which
are soldered lower down, so the OP may still not be able to remove
them without chopping the pipework.

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:56:37 +0100, Colin Wilson
o.uk wrote:

Treat yourself to a new tap. It's a monobloc . Turn the water off and
disconnect the tails underneath and remove the nut holding the tap to
the draining board/sink.

IIRC the monobloc we have in our kitchen has "screw-in" tails which
are soldered lower down, so the OP may still not be able to remove
them without chopping the pipework.

Yeah I know . I'm assuming he knows how to deal with that . When I
said " disconnect" I meant in any way appropriate :-)

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:56:37 +0100, Colin Wilson
o.uk wrote:

Treat yourself to a new tap. It's a monobloc . Turn the water off and
disconnect the tails underneath and remove the nut holding the tap to
the draining board/sink.

IIRC the monobloc we have in our kitchen has "screw-in" tails which
are soldered lower down, so the OP may still not be able to remove
them without chopping the pipework.

To me that is just a silly way to connect copper tails and gives no
consideration to a need to remove it in the future .There is
absolutely no way the a tap connected in that way can be removed
easily . Instead of a soldered joint a comp'n should be used

The Medway Handyman wrote:
Rob wrote:
Got a problem with the kitchen HW tap - it turns about I complete turn
and no water comes out. This happened all of a sudden. HW elsewhere
works fine.

I can't seem to dismantle it - I removed the screw that would appear
to attach the handle to the body but it seems stuck. It's been
soaking in WD40 for about an hour. I don't understand why it has an
insert for an allen key - I'm reluctant to apply to much force,
although I have given the whole thing a tap with a hammer. Any ideas?
I need to get the handle off the access the valve.

Plan B was to simply replace the whole tap assembly, but that's not
looking good because it appears to have been welded to the pipes:

http://patchoulian.googlepages.com/tap

Incidentally, the muck around the tap fell out when I unscrewed the
collar.

Does the collar unscrew enough for you to see a brass hexagon?



Yes - a brass nut. But I don't think I've got a spanner slim enough.

Thanks for the other suggestions - but chopping pipe ain't going to
happen! I was hoping it would just be a washer/new valve maybe - and I
would have fitted a new tap assembly if it'd been easy.

The kitchen is due to replaced a round xmas, so I didn't want to spend
too much time/money.

Rob

John wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
...
Got a problem with the kitchen HW tap - it turns about I complete turn and
no water comes out. This happened all of a sudden. HW elsewhere works
fine.

I can't seem to dismantle it - I removed the screw that would appear to
attach the handle to the body but it seems stuck. It's been soaking in
WD40 for about an hour. I don't understand why it has an insert for an
allen key - I'm reluctant to apply to much force, although I have given
the whole thing a tap with a hammer. Any ideas? I need to get the handle
off the access the valve.

Plan B was to simply replace the whole tap assembly, but that's not
looking good because it appears to have been welded to the pipes:

http://patchoulian.googlepages.com/tap

Incidentally, the muck around the tap fell out when I unscrewed the
collar.

Thanks, Rob

Not sure from photo that it is for an Allen Key - is the shaft hexagonal?
(and maybe tapered) Perhaps someone else has a similar design. If it is a
tapered hex shaft then a sharp hit from under the handle is needed.


Yes - it is a hexagon, and it looks slightly tapered. It does seem to be
pretty solidly in place.

Rob

Rob wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Rob wrote:
Got a problem with the kitchen HW tap - it turns about I complete
turn and no water comes out. This happened all of a sudden. HW
elsewhere works fine.

I can't seem to dismantle it - I removed the screw that would appear
to attach the handle to the body but it seems stuck. It's been
soaking in WD40 for about an hour. I don't understand why it has an
insert for an allen key - I'm reluctant to apply to much force,
although I have given the whole thing a tap with a hammer. Any
ideas? I need to get the handle off the access the valve.

Plan B was to simply replace the whole tap assembly, but that's not
looking good because it appears to have been welded to the pipes:

http://patchoulian.googlepages.com/tap

Incidentally, the muck around the tap fell out when I unscrewed the
collar.

Does the collar unscrew enough for you to see a brass hexagon?



Yes - a brass nut. But I don't think I've got a spanner slim enough.

Thats what these are for
http://www.wickes.co.uk/Plumbing-Too...er/invt/420064

It doesn't work on backnuts as per my review, but one of the side apertures
should get in. Worth a try at £6:99.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

Rob wrote:

Got a problem with the kitchen HW tap - it turns about I complete turn
and no water comes out. This happened all of a sudden. HW elsewhere
works fine.

I can't seem to dismantle it - I removed the screw that would appear to
attach the handle to the body but it seems stuck. It's been soaking in
WD40 for about an hour. I don't understand why it has an insert for an
allen key - I'm reluctant to apply to much force, although I have given
the whole thing a tap with a hammer. Any ideas? I need to get the handle
off the access the valve.

Right, I changed the taps on exactly the same mixer yesterday.
It looks like you have taken out the screw that holds the tap handle on
- yes?
Now the tap handle shoudl pull off, if not, it will be slightly
corroded, and will need a bit of tapping to release it.
Once that is off, there is a 3/4-1" brass nut shaped collar. Undo this,
and the whole tap will come out from the body.(obviously make sure the
water has been turned off at this point)
Once it is off, you will likely find that the large screw inside the
body is worn so much, that it does not rise when the tap handle is
turned.
If so, then buy a pair of these from Screwfix:
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/11577

They are a straight screw in, and should work without a fault.
No need to remove the mixer body at all, and fixed with 2 new taps for
£10.
(that'll be a £30 consultation charge please!)
Alan.
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A.Lee wrote:
Rob wrote:

Got a problem with the kitchen HW tap - it turns about I complete turn
and no water comes out. This happened all of a sudden. HW elsewhere
works fine.

I can't seem to dismantle it - I removed the screw that would appear to
attach the handle to the body but it seems stuck. It's been soaking in
WD40 for about an hour. I don't understand why it has an insert for an
allen key - I'm reluctant to apply to much force, although I have given
the whole thing a tap with a hammer. Any ideas? I need to get the handle
off the access the valve.

Right, I changed the taps on exactly the same mixer yesterday.
It looks like you have taken out the screw that holds the tap handle on
- yes?
Now the tap handle shoudl pull off, if not, it will be slightly
corroded, and will need a bit of tapping to release it.
Once that is off, there is a 3/4-1" brass nut shaped collar. Undo this,
and the whole tap will come out from the body.(obviously make sure the
water has been turned off at this point)
Once it is off, you will likely find that the large screw inside the
body is worn so much, that it does not rise when the tap handle is
turned.
If so, then buy a pair of these from Screwfix:
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/11577

They are a straight screw in, and should work without a fault.
No need to remove the mixer body at all, and fixed with 2 new taps for
£10.
(that'll be a £30 consultation charge please!)
Alan.

Splendid, thanks! I'm not sure if the tap will come off, but i'll give
it another go/try the tool suggested by TMH.

We'll see if you've earned your money when/if it works :-)

Rob

Rob wrote:
Got a problem with the kitchen HW tap - it turns about I complete turn
and no water comes out. This happened all of a sudden. HW elsewhere
works fine.

I can't seem to dismantle it - I removed the screw that would appear to
attach the handle to the body but it seems stuck. It's been soaking in
WD40 for about an hour. I don't understand why it has an insert for an
allen key - I'm reluctant to apply to much force, although I have given
the whole thing a tap with a hammer. Any ideas? I need to get the handle
off the access the valve.

Plan B was to simply replace the whole tap assembly, but that's not
looking good because it appears to have been welded to the pipes:

http://patchoulian.googlepages.com/tap

Incidentally, the muck around the tap fell out when I unscrewed the collar.

Thanks, Rob

All done. The handwheel was locked solid to the valve, and the Wickes
multispanner couldn't be used - the 17mm spanner is in the middle of the
tool making it necessary to have about 20cm of clearance. I can see it
being useful at some point, so no regrets. I'd guess some sort of puller
tool would be needed. So I sawed the taps off, removed the collars,
unscrewed the old valves, replaced with new. 20 minutes all in, once I'd
decided to saw.

As an aside, the tap kit is not listed in the Scewfix paper catalogue -
they told me that they're rationalising their range.

Thanks to everyone for the advice.

Rob

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:20:26 +0100, Rob
wrote:

Rob wrote:
Got a problem with the kitchen HW tap - it turns about I complete turn
and no water comes out. This happened all of a sudden. HW elsewhere
works fine.

I can't seem to dismantle it - I removed the screw that would appear to
attach the handle to the body but it seems stuck. It's been soaking in
WD40 for about an hour. I don't understand why it has an insert for an
allen key - I'm reluctant to apply to much force, although I have given
the whole thing a tap with a hammer. Any ideas? I need to get the handle
off the access the valve.

Plan B was to simply replace the whole tap assembly, but that's not
looking good because it appears to have been welded to the pipes:

http://patchoulian.googlepages.com/tap

Incidentally, the muck around the tap fell out when I unscrewed the collar.

Thanks, Rob

All done. The handwheel was locked solid to the valve, and the Wickes
multispanner couldn't be used - the 17mm spanner is in the middle of the
tool making it necessary to have about 20cm of clearance. I can see it
being useful at some point, so no regrets. I'd guess some sort of puller
tool would be needed. So I sawed the taps off, removed the collars,
unscrewed the old valves, replaced with new. 20 minutes all in, once I'd
decided to saw.

As an aside, the tap kit is not listed in the Scewfix paper catalogue -
they told me that they're rationalising their range.

Thanks to everyone for the advice.

Rob

I still say you should have replaced the whole lot...LOL