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Power washers, I didn't know that
I expect everyone else did. I decided to use water from my butt to wash
the car using a power washer. When I had finished I was amazed at how little water has been used, in my ignorance I thought they would use more than just a hose, but in fact use far less. |
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"Broadback" wrote in message ... I expect everyone else did. I decided to use water from my butt to wash the car using a power washer. When I had finished I was amazed at how little water has been used, in my ignorance I thought they would use more than just a hose, but in fact use far less. Doesn't your arse get sore shoving a pipe up it all the time? ;-) |
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"Broadback" wrote in message ... I expect everyone else did. I decided to use water from my butt to wash the car using a power washer. When I had finished I was amazed at how little water has been used, in my ignorance I thought they would use more than just a hose, but in fact use far less. I didn't know either until we used ours for the first time. There's no reason we should know :-) Mary |
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On 09/05/2008 09:35 Broadback wrote:
I decided to use water from my butt to wash the car using a power washer. Careful with the tyres. There was some evidence produced last year(?) that side walls can be damaged. -- F |
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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message t... "Broadback" wrote in message ... I expect everyone else did. I decided to use water from my butt to wash the car using a power washer. When I had finished I was amazed at how little water has been used, in my ignorance I thought they would use more than just a hose, but in fact use far less. I didn't know either until we used ours for the first time. There's no reason we should know :-) Mary It is obvious, just look at the size of the puddles. It falls into the same category as dishwashers use more water than hand washing and windmills save energy, myths. |
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In article lO6dnXXC3JTeh7nVnZ2dnUVZ8sLinZ2d@plusnet,
F news@nowhere writes: On 09/05/2008 09:35 Broadback wrote: I decided to use water from my butt to wash the car using a power washer. Careful with the tyres. There was some evidence produced last year(?) that side walls can be damaged. They can also take off paint if you go for the narrowest jet. This was a particularly bad problem with some of the first water-based car paints (don't know if they've solved it since). I always fan the jet to some degree when washing the car. Mainly I'm using it as a pump to pump water from the water butt, rather than as a high pressure washer. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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Broadback wrote:
I expect everyone else did. I decided to use water from my butt to wash the car using a power washer. When I had finished I was amazed at how little water has been used, in my ignorance I thought they would use more than just a hose, but in fact use far less. I did already know but it never ceases to make my blood boil when, after 3 days of sunshine the water companies start bleating about water shortages and ban the use of pressure washers. John |
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"dennis@home" wrote in message ... "Mary Fisher" wrote in message t... "Broadback" wrote in message ... I expect everyone else did. I decided to use water from my butt to wash the car using a power washer. When I had finished I was amazed at how little water has been used, in my ignorance I thought they would use more than just a hose, but in fact use far less. I didn't know either until we used ours for the first time. There's no reason we should know :-) Mary It is obvious, just look at the size of the puddles. It falls into the same category as dishwashers use more water than hand washing and windmills save energy, myths. I don't understand what you said but don't bother explaining. |
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"John" replyingroup@notemail wrote in message ... Broadback wrote: I expect everyone else did. I decided to use water from my butt to wash the car using a power washer. When I had finished I was amazed at how little water has been used, in my ignorance I thought they would use more than just a hose, but in fact use far less. I did already know but it never ceases to make my blood boil How are you still alive? |
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On Fri, 09 May 2008 10:32:45 +0100, F news@nowhere wrote:
On 09/05/2008 09:35 Broadback wrote: I decided to use water from my butt to wash the car using a power washer. Careful with the tyres. There was some evidence produced last year(?) that side walls can be damaged. And don't blast out all the lubricants from the bearings! -- (\__/) M. (='.'=) Owing to the amount of spam posted via googlegroups and (")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking most articles posted from there. If you wish your postings to be seen by everyone you will need use a different method of posting. See http://improve-usenet.org |
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Mary Fisher wrote:
"John" replyingroup@notemail wrote in message ... Broadback wrote: I expect everyone else did. I decided to use water from my butt to wash the car using a power washer. When I had finished I was amazed at how little water has been used, in my ignorance I thought they would use more than just a hose, but in fact use far less. I did already know but it never ceases to make my blood boil How are you still alive? Cos I'm a roughie-toughie northern lad and not a southern-softie ) |
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"John" replyingroup@notemail wrote in message ... Mary Fisher wrote: "John" replyingroup@notemail wrote in message ... Broadback wrote: I expect everyone else did. I decided to use water from my butt to wash the car using a power washer. When I had finished I was amazed at how little water has been used, in my ignorance I thought they would use more than just a hose, but in fact use far less. I did already know but it never ceases to make my blood boil How are you still alive? Cos I'm a roughie-toughie northern lad and not a southern-softie ) Um. I'm a northern lass ... |
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Mark wrote: On Fri, 09 May 2008 10:32:45 +0100, F news@nowhere wrote: On 09/05/2008 09:35 Broadback wrote: I decided to use water from my butt to wash the car using a power washer. Careful with the tyres. There was some evidence produced last year(?) that side walls can be damaged. And don't blast out all the lubricants from the bearings! Urban myth - totally impossible. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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"The Medway Handyman" gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying: And don't blast out all the lubricants from the bearings! Urban myth - totally impossible. Oh, I beg to differ... Wheel bearings are a consumable on the 4x4 2cv conversions, because they're just not sealed against water sufficiently. No non-4x4's bearings will be designed for that kind of water ingress. Whether it's EASY to get that much water to the bearings is another question - but I really wouldn't put it past some ham-fister numpty with a B&Q Karcher to manage. |
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Broadback wrote: I expect everyone else did. I decided to use water from my butt to wash the car using a power washer. When I had finished I was amazed at how little water has been used, in my ignorance I thought they would use more than just a hose, but in fact use far less. That is the raison detre of a pressure washer. They were invented & developed in Denmark & Germany where water was & still is an expensive comodity. The original sales argument was 'clean with less water', not 'clean faster/better'. When supplied by the mains it can't use more water - it can only use up to the maximum flow of the mains supply - typically HPC's use 80% less water per task. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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"Adrian" wrote in message ... "The Medway Handyman" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: And don't blast out all the lubricants from the bearings! Urban myth - totally impossible. Oh, I beg to differ... Wheel bearings are a consumable on the 4x4 2cv conversions, because they're just not sealed against water sufficiently. No non-4x4's bearings will be designed for that kind of water ingress. Whether it's EASY to get that much water to the bearings is another question - but I really wouldn't put it past some ham-fister numpty with a B&Q Karcher to manage. He'd have to be really determined. Mary |
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The Medway Handyman explained :
When supplied by the mains it can't use more water - it can only use up to the maximum flow of the mains supply - typically HPC's use 80% less water per task. Oh yes it can.... The mains water pressure is 'pushing' against the atmosphere reducing it's flow rate. Remove the atmospheric pressure (suck) and much more water will flow. That is how a fire engine gets much more water out of a hydrant, than you would expect. -- Regards, Harry (M1BYT) (L) http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk |
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Adrian wrote: "The Medway Handyman" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: And don't blast out all the lubricants from the bearings! Urban myth - totally impossible. Oh, I beg to differ... Wheel bearings are a consumable on the 4x4 2cv conversions, because they're just not sealed against water sufficiently. No non-4x4's bearings will be designed for that kind of water ingress. Whether it's EASY to get that much water to the bearings is another question - but I really wouldn't put it past some ham-fister numpty with a B&Q Karcher to manage. The myth started years ago with the original steam cleaning machine like the Wickham Handy Dandy. These things had no pressure pump as such, just a pump that took water from a tank into a diesel/paraffin fired coil type heat exchanger. The pressure was developed by the water turning into steam & leaving through a nozzle. These things had no trigger guns to shut them off and no auto ignition - a paraffin soaked rag on a stick lit the boiler. The enourmous temperatures generated would melt grease out of bearing quite easily and could strip/flatten paint. I doubt you could force a significant amount of lubricant out of a bearing with a 'peanut performance' DIY cold machine if you tried. I spent 30 years selling machines that had 3 to 10 times the performance of a DIY machine & never came across a single example of this, nor did I ever hear of a reported case. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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The Medway Handyman wrote: The myth started years ago with the original steam cleaning machine like the Wickham Handy Dandy. These things had no pressure pump as such, just a pump that took water from a tank into a diesel/paraffin fired coil type heat exchanger. The pressure was developed by the water turning into steam & leaving through a nozzle. These things had no trigger guns to shut them off and no auto ignition - a paraffin soaked rag on a stick lit the boiler. The enourmous temperatures generated would melt grease out of bearing quite easily and could strip/flatten paint. Great pictures of a 'Handy Dandy' here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-CIRCA-...QQcmdZViewItem This is how presure washers started folks :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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"The Medway Handyman" gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying: I doubt you could force a significant amount of lubricant out of a bearing with a 'peanut performance' DIY cold machine if you tried. No, but you could easily force water in. |
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Adrian wrote: "The Medway Handyman" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: I doubt you could force a significant amount of lubricant out of a bearing with a 'peanut performance' DIY cold machine if you tried. No, but you could easily force water in. I suppose you could if you left the pencil jet in the same place for half an hour, but in the 2 - 3 mins it takes to wash a wheel, 80% of which time the fan jet isn't near the bearing anyway..... -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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Mary Fisher wrote:
"dennis@home" wrote in message ... "Mary Fisher" wrote in message t... "Broadback" wrote in message ... I expect everyone else did. I decided to use water from my butt to wash the car using a power washer. When I had finished I was amazed at how little water has been used, in my ignorance I thought they would use more than just a hose, but in fact use far less. I didn't know either until we used ours for the first time. There's no reason we should know :-) Mary It is obvious, just look at the size of the puddles. It falls into the same category as dishwashers use more water than hand washing and windmills save energy, myths. I don't understand what you said but don't bother explaining. In which case I don't understand why you bothered replying ;-) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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Power washers, I didn't know that
"The Medway Handyman" gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying: I doubt you could force a significant amount of lubricant out of a bearing with a 'peanut performance' DIY cold machine if you tried. No, but you could easily force water in. I suppose you could if you left the pencil jet in the same place for half an hour, but in the 2 - 3 mins it takes to wash a wheel, 80% of which time the fan jet isn't near the bearing anyway..... Like I said - whether it's feasible is another question entirely. |
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