I'm trying to make a wiring diagram of the existing wires in this house:
there are many unknown wires!

Are there any standards on the web somewhere,
I want it to be understandable by professional electricians..

I was going to use L for lights and F for fuses
but Sockets and Switches both begin with S....

I think using colour will be so much better than black and white,
but how to represent when wires go up and along then down again
3 dimensional wiring on 2 dimensional paper?

[george]

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George (dicegeorge) wrote:

I'm trying to make a wiring diagram of the existing wires in this
house: there are many unknown wires!

Are there any standards on the web somewhere,
I want it to be understandable by professional electricians..

I was going to use L for lights and F for fuses
but Sockets and Switches both begin with S....

I think using colour will be so much better than black and white,
but how to represent when wires go up and along then down again
3 dimensional wiring on 2 dimensional paper?

[george]


I wouldn't bother! I think, from what you've written, a professional
electrician will be able to work out what's what far better than you can -
without a diagram.
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George (dicegeorge) wrote:

I was going to use L for lights and F for fuses
but Sockets and Switches both begin with S....

Standard designations are SKT for socket, SW for switch, FS for fuse, LP
for lamp.

but how to represent when wires go up and along then down again
3 dimensional wiring on 2 dimensional paper?

Isometric projection.

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Andy

Thanks Owain and Andy

I'm looking at http://www.blender.org/
for my 3D CAD model of the house
but it could take a few years to learn how to use it!

For wiring diagrams your idea of a floorpan
with the 4 sides going off each side
like a cutout cardboard model folded flat
seems the one to go for - why didnt i think of that?

For softweare for 2D plans I use Microsoft Paint,
a fantastic little program,
http://gprime.net/video.php/mspaintcar


I need something which i can copy and print,
and scribble changes onto
and which the professional electricians will understand
when they come to do Part P work like testing and changing Consumer Units...

however I will be labeling wires,
replacing broken sockets and mice-chewn wires,
and inserting plastic or metal conduits
hidden in the plaster and woodwork etc etc

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[george]

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"Owain" wrote in message
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George (dicegeorge) wrote:
but how to represent when wires go up and along then down again
3 dimensional wiring on 2 dimensional paper?

Use 3 dimensional paper. Ie for each room have the floor plan surrounded
by elevations for each of the walls.

Or just draw a little circle on the plan to show drops/risers. Put an up
or down arrow adjacent and note the height of each horizontal run.

Or use 3D CAD software.

Owain

In message , "George (dicegeorge)"
writes
Thanks Owain and Andy

I'm looking at http://www.blender.org/
for my 3D CAD model of the house
but it could take a few years to learn how to use it!

how about

http://sketchup.google.com/



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geoff

yes geoff,
i've looked at sketchup,
in fact i bought a book on it and a book on blender
but i only want to learn one 3d program
they move in 3 dimensions in different ways..

Blender is more powerful,
it can do animations too,
and it works on linux windows and macs
and is open source,
so,
unless convinced otherwise
blender is the one to learn...

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"geoff" wrote in message
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In message , "George (dicegeorge)"
writes
Thanks Owain and Andy

I'm looking at http://www.blender.org/
for my 3D CAD model of the house
but it could take a few years to learn how to use it!

how about

http://sketchup.google.com/



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geoff

On 29/03/2008 21:23, George (dicegeorge) wrote:

i've looked at sketchup,
Blender is more powerful,

IME sketchup is intuitive and blender is a bitch to learn.