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Stop Cock Up
Its been a funny old day.............
Simple small plumbing job for a regular customer, 10 year old detached house. Not done any plumbing work there before however. Could not find any internal stopcock anywhere. Looked in all the obvious places, asked the neighbours where theirs were, customer didn't know. No problem. I'll turn of the water outside. Customer happy with that. Found a metal access cover, lifted it to find 4 x meters & 4 x plastic stopcocks - not a label in sight, chamber about 22" deep, just about able to reach them when kneeling directly over the chamber. Cunning plan. Got the customer to stand by his kitchen cold tap, went outside & called him on the mobile. Turned off stopcock one. No joy. Opened it again. Stopcock two, shut off, no difference. Opened it again and to my surprise a jet of extremely cold water at surprisingly high pressure made contact with most of my upper body. Second surprise was to find the top part of the bloody stopcock in my hand. It hadn't broken, simply come undone, not a dissimilar arrangement to a normal tap jumper. The chamber rapidly filled with water, overflowed and soaked my knees & lower legs, thus completing the job of 100% saturating a handyman. Huge quantities of water are now flowing down Robin Hood Drive. I spent the next 35 mins trying to get the bugger back into place. Local kids found this great fun, jumping it & out of the rapidly flowing torrent. Eventually gave up, having lost all feeling in my right arm due to the freezing water. Customer was surprisingly calm. I got him to call the water company & spent the next half an hour sitting in the van, engine running & heating on full blast, wondering just how much this was going to cost me, and how it would affect my public liability insurance premium. I did dry out quite a lot though. Water board bloke turned up & spent 20 mins trying to get the stopcock screwed back in. He couldn't manage it either. I felt better. Eventually he removed the water meter thus lowering the pressure significantly & managed to screw it back in, muttering & cursing about 'poxy plastic stopcocks, always doing this'. He then checked the other three & found two of them (the two I hadn't yet touched) hadn't been tightened up properly either. He used a giant basin wrench type thing to tighten them up. He put his tools away & returned from the van. I expected a large bill. To my surprise & delight he profusely apologised for the inconvenience caused by the poor installation! Result! Never boring this handyman malarkey......... -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
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The Medway Handyman wrote:
Its been a funny old day............. Simple small plumbing job for a regular customer, 10 year old detached house. Not done any plumbing work there before however. Could not find any internal stopcock anywhere. Looked in all the obvious places, asked the neighbours where theirs were, customer didn't know. No problem. I'll turn of the water outside. Customer happy with that. Found a metal access cover, lifted it to find 4 x meters & 4 x plastic stopcocks - not a label in sight, chamber about 22" deep, just about able to reach them when kneeling directly over the chamber. Cunning plan. Got the customer to stand by his kitchen cold tap, went outside & called him on the mobile. Turned off stopcock one. No joy. Opened it again. Stopcock two, shut off, no difference. Opened it again and to my surprise a jet of extremely cold water at surprisingly high pressure made contact with most of my upper body. Second surprise was to find the top part of the bloody stopcock in my hand. It hadn't broken, simply come undone, not a dissimilar arrangement to a normal tap jumper. The chamber rapidly filled with water, overflowed and soaked my knees & lower legs, thus completing the job of 100% saturating a handyman. Huge quantities of water are now flowing down Robin Hood Drive. I spent the next 35 mins trying to get the bugger back into place. Local kids found this great fun, jumping it & out of the rapidly flowing torrent. Eventually gave up, having lost all feeling in my right arm due to the freezing water. Customer was surprisingly calm. I got him to call the water company & spent the next half an hour sitting in the van, engine running & heating on full blast, wondering just how much this was going to cost me, and how it would affect my public liability insurance premium. I did dry out quite a lot though. Water board bloke turned up & spent 20 mins trying to get the stopcock screwed back in. He couldn't manage it either. I felt better. Eventually he removed the water meter thus lowering the pressure significantly & managed to screw it back in, muttering & cursing about 'poxy plastic stopcocks, always doing this'. He then checked the other three & found two of them (the two I hadn't yet touched) hadn't been tightened up properly either. He used a giant basin wrench type thing to tighten them up. He put his tools away & returned from the van. I expected a large bill. To my surprise & delight he profusely apologised for the inconvenience caused by the poor installation! Result! Never boring this handyman malarkey......... You often find that as a 'workman' rather than a member of the public, the services people will rarely make things difficult - We chopped a gas main in half with a mini digger last year, luckilly the main was down for being removed anyway as it was a shop and the owner didn't want the hassle of having gas in the flat upstairs neither. Transco came out and put it down to a 'gardening accident' resulting in no charge....I've witnessed similar mishaps relating to ancient electric mains, mostly in pubs but occasionally houses and in these cases too there has never been any charges. |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message Never boring this handyman malarkey......... -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 So you couldn't see the main pipes entering the house anywhere? Begining of last year a neighbour phoned me up and asked could I come round straight away as she said the CW pipe has fractured? by the washing machine. Went round and I traced the main incoming pipe from the cellar up to where it entered the kitchen but I could not find the stop cock. Turns out her ex had moved it from the cellar and cut into the pipe behind the sink units but the unit had to be moved to gain access,doh! |
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In message , The Medway
Handyman writes Its been a funny old day............. Simple small plumbing job for a regular customer, 10 year old detached house. Not done any plumbing work there before however. Could not find any internal stopcock anywhere. Looked in all the obvious places, asked the neighbours where theirs were, customer didn't know. No problem. I'll turn of the water outside. Customer happy with that. Found a metal access cover, lifted it to find 4 x meters & 4 x plastic stopcocks - not a label in sight, chamber about 22" deep, just about able to reach them when kneeling directly over the chamber. Cunning plan. Got the customer to stand by his kitchen cold tap, went outside & called him on the mobile. Turned off stopcock one. No joy. Opened it again. Stopcock two, shut off, no difference. Opened it again and to my surprise a jet of extremely cold water at surprisingly high pressure made contact with most of my upper body. Second surprise was to find the top part of the bloody stopcock in my hand. It hadn't broken, simply come undone, not a dissimilar arrangement to a normal tap jumper. "You're the Drivel in disguise, Oh yes you are You're the Drivel in disguise ..." -- geoff |
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:41:36 GMT
"The Medway Handyman" wrote: Its been a funny old day............. Snip He put his tools away & returned from the van. I expected a large bill. To my surprise & delight he profusely apologised for the inconvenience caused by the poor installation! Result! Never boring this handyman malarkey......... and the moral of this story is: Don't let BT into the plumbing industry or you'll have £120 call out fees in no time! R. |
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from TheOldFellow contains these words: and the moral of this story is: Don't let BT into the plumbing industry or you'll have £120 call out fees in no time! They didn't used to charge private customers. Some time ago (10 years plus I should think) a tree surgeon was pruning my neighbours large sycamore which overshadowed my drive and managed to take out my telephone line with one of his off cuts. He rang BT pretending to be me (on that grounds they would have charged him) and they replaced the line for free. Line has since been replaced for free again after the crane on a BM wagon snagged it. Line is now above minimum height rather than below it. Last year my brother in law managed to cut through a line when trimming the hedge ad the fee was over £200. Struck me that as he had been standing on the ground as he waved his hedge cutter about he had a good case for protesting the fee but he didn't want too argue. -- Roger Chapman |
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