http://www.stf-fasteners.co.uk

Established in 1986, STF have dominated the UK stainless steel
fasteners market for 2 decades. Part of the SRB Ltd Group of
Companies, STF operate from 50,000 sq. ft. premises in the Heart of
the West Midlands, delivering next day anywhere to mainland UK.

Over 10,000 line items of A2, A4, A4-80 and brass fasteners are fully
controlled by an integrated SAP computer system. With direct access to
all group company stock, STF’s experienced sales staff are able to
respond promptly to all customers’ enquiries and orders.

The full range of A2, A4 and A4-80 stainless steel fasteners are
stocked, including hexagon bolts, hexagon setscrews, nuts, washers,
machine screws, self tapping screws, woodscrews, socket screws,
studding, security screws, micro screws etc. both in metric and
imperial threadforms. The company also has its’ own ‘Stainless Steel
Specials’ department, which means that STF can quote for any non-
standard parts.

By 2001, a new division was established – STF EXPORTS – to combine the
export sales of STF, Icon Fasteners and Galaxy Fasteners. In 2006, STF
Marine was successfully launched supplying stainless steel marine
fittings to the industry.

STF are dedicated to providing all customers world wide with a range
of high quality stainless steel fasteners, brass fasteners, sockets
and hexagons in grades 8.8 to 14.9 and construction fasteners, all at
competitive prices, off the shelf.

http://www.stf-fasteners.co.uk

wrote:
http://www.stf-fasteners.co.uk

Established in 1986, STF have dominated the UK stainless steel
fasteners market for 2 decades. Part of the SRB Ltd Group of
Companies, STF operate from 50,000 sq. ft. premises in the Heart of
the West Midlands, delivering next day anywhere to mainland UK.
etc...

I wonder if STF Fasteners know that their web provider, eSterling, is
spamming newsgroups as part of their Internet Marketing Solution? Yep,
this is the same guy that everyone jumped on yesterday when he was
'promoting' A&N Joinery. So, perhaps emails to the companies concerned
to let them know what Mr Sanders screwing up their business and maybe
even charging them money for the privilege.

Andrew

Oh look - it's the same nitwit spammer that was spamming about his
client's DIY Joinery business earlier.....

Not really his client's fault -
after all - they're probably not aware that their consultant (approved
by Coventy & Nuneaton Businesslink) is spamming on their behalf...

Probably better to contact





or




or even fill in the form at

http://www.esterling.co.uk/contact.asp

and explain to these 'experts' why they shouldn't spamvertise on
uk-diy ......

Adrian

Are these the correct addresses ?

In article , Andrew May
writes
wrote:
http://www.stf-fasteners.co.uk

Established in 1986, STF have dominated the UK stainless steel
fasteners market for 2 decades. Part of the SRB Ltd Group of
Companies, STF operate from 50,000 sq. ft. premises in the Heart of
the West Midlands, delivering next day anywhere to mainland UK.
etc...

I wonder if STF Fasteners know that their web provider, eSterling, is
spamming newsgroups as part of their Internet Marketing Solution? Yep,
this is the same guy that everyone jumped on yesterday when he was
'promoting' A&N Joinery. So, perhaps emails to the companies concerned
to let them know what Mr Sanders screwing up their business and maybe
even charging them money for the privilege.

Static IP address makes the abuse report a nice easy cut and paste,
anyone wanting to copy and send mine is welcome:

To:
Subject: [217.41.46.253] - BT Openworld user - commercial posting abuse

[217.41.46.253] - BT Openworld user - commercial posting abuse
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:16:54 +0000 (UTC)

Hi Folks,

The BT Openworld user identified above and in the sample header and
message below is repeatedly abusing your service by posting commercial
advertising to the usenet group uk.d-i-y which has strict no commercial
advertising policy.

The advertising policy of the group may be viewed he
http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/#can

If you could discourage this user from this practice in future I would
be much obliged.

Regards,

yourname

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Newsgroups: uk.d-i-y
Subject: Stainless steel threaded fasteners
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:16:54 -0800 (PST)
Organization: http://groups.google.com
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Message-ID:
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Mime-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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16:16:54 GMT)
X-Complaints-To:
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Complaints-To:
Injection-Info: f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com; posting-
host=217.41.46.253;
posting-account=SAd9HwoAAAB3Rg-B3dMxvMi3EyhNlD23
User-Agent: G2/1.0
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Xref: core-phx-easynews uk.d-i-y:771372

http://www.stf-fasteners.co.uk

Established in 1986, STF have dominated the UK stainless steel
fasteners market for 2 decades. Part of the SRB Ltd Group of
Companies, STF operate from 50,000 sq. ft. premises in the Heart of
the West Midlands, delivering next day anywhere to mainland UK.

Over 10,000 line items of A2, A4, A4-80 and brass fasteners are fully
controlled by an integrated SAP computer system. With direct access to
all group company stock, STFs experienced sales staff are able to
respond promptly to all customers enquiries and orders.

The full range of A2, A4 and A4-80 stainless steel fasteners are
stocked, including hexagon bolts, hexagon setscrews, nuts, washers,
machine screws, self tapping screws, woodscrews, socket screws,
studding, security screws, micro screws etc. both in metric and
imperial threadforms. The company also has its own €˜Stainless Steel
Specials department, which means that STF can quote for any non-
standard parts.

By 2001, a new division was established €“ STF EXPORTS €“ to combine the
export sales of STF, Icon Fasteners and Galaxy Fasteners. In 2006, STF
Marine was successfully launched supplying stainless steel marine
fittings to the industry.

STF are dedicated to providing all customers world wide with a range
of high quality stainless steel fasteners, brass fasteners, sockets
and hexagons in grades 8.8 to 14.9 and construction fasteners, all at
competitive prices, off the shelf.

http://www.stf-fasteners.co.uk
/quote

--
fred
Plusnet - I hope you like vanilla

In message , Franko
writes
Are these the correct addresses ?










Have cc'ed my abuse report to various officials of STF Threading so that
they can be aware of the damage their web developer is doing to their
business.

--
Si

In message , Adrian
writes
Oh look - it's the same nitwit spammer that was spamming about his
client's DIY Joinery business earlier.....

Not really his client's fault -
after all - they're probably not aware that their consultant (approved
by Coventy & Nuneaton Businesslink) is spamming on their behalf...

Probably better to contact





or




or even fill in the form at

http://www.esterling.co.uk/contact.asp

and explain to these 'experts' why they shouldn't spamvertise on
uk-diy ......

"Your spam in uk.d-i-y guarantees that I will never purchase anything
you advertise, and I will recommend that others take the same line

**** off"


--
geoff

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
geoff wrote:

In message , Adrian
writes
Oh look - it's the same nitwit spammer that was spamming about his
client's DIY Joinery business earlier.....

Not really his client's fault -
after all - they're probably not aware that their consultant
(approved by Coventy & Nuneaton Businesslink) is spamming on their
behalf... Probably better to contact





or




or even fill in the form at

http://www.esterling.co.uk/contact.asp

and explain to these 'experts' why they shouldn't spamvertise on
uk-diy ......

"Your spam in uk.d-i-y guarantees that I will never purchase anything
you advertise, and I will recommend that others take the same line

**** off"

As far as I can see they're wholesalers anyway, so they're not likely to
want to supply half a dozen bolts and nuts to your average d-i-y-er!
--
Cheers,
Roger
______
Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly
monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks.
PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP!

HI Geoff

On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:00:40 GMT, geoff wrote:

In message , Adrian
writes
Oh look - it's the same nitwit spammer that was spamming about his
client's DIY Joinery business earlier.....

Not really his client's fault -
after all - they're probably not aware that their consultant (approved
by Coventy & Nuneaton Businesslink) is spamming on their behalf...

Probably better to contact





or




or even fill in the form at

http://www.esterling.co.uk/contact.asp

and explain to these 'experts' why they shouldn't spamvertise on
uk-diy ......

"Your spam in uk.d-i-y guarantees that I will never purchase anything
you advertise, and I will recommend that others take the same line

**** off"

Well - that's sort of the jist of what I wrote to them g
only perhaps in more diplomatic language (probably wasted on them !)

Adrian

In message , Adrian
writes
HI Geoff

On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:00:40 GMT, geoff wrote:

In message , Adrian
writes
Oh look - it's the same nitwit spammer that was spamming about his
client's DIY Joinery business earlier.....

Not really his client's fault -
after all - they're probably not aware that their consultant (approved
by Coventy & Nuneaton Businesslink) is spamming on their behalf...

Probably better to contact





or




or even fill in the form at

http://www.esterling.co.uk/contact.asp

and explain to these 'experts' why they shouldn't spamvertise on
uk-diy ......

"Your spam in uk.d-i-y guarantees that I will never purchase anything
you advertise, and I will recommend that others take the same line

**** off"

Well - that's sort of the jist of what I wrote to them g
only perhaps in more diplomatic language (probably wasted on them !)

I don't know WHAT you mean

I'm famous for my "diplomatic"

err ...

--
geoff

Hello,

I'd like to apologise for "spamming" on your forum. I recently posted
an add on behalf of a client, which was against Usenet rules.

Taking this into account, I can understand how genuine users of usenet
will be offended by all the spamming which takes place, and would like
to offer my sincere apologies.

It was no fault of the client, and I would be more than happy if any
offended users would like to forward their issues to me, which I will
be happy to address and respond to personally.

My actions were clearly intruding, and I can assure all users that it
will not be happening again.

Kindest regards,

Martin Sanders

On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 03:41:54 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Hello,

I'd like to apologise for "spamming" on your forum. I recently posted
an add on behalf of a client, which was against Usenet rules.

Taking this into account, I can understand how genuine users of usenet
will be offended by all the spamming which takes place, and would like
to offer my sincere apologies.

It was no fault of the client, and I would be more than happy if any
offended users would like to forward their issues to me, which I will
be happy to address and respond to personally.

My actions were clearly intruding, and I can assure all users that it
will not be happening again.

Kindest regards,

Martin Sanders

And you didn't realise that you were 'intruding' ..?

Maybe you should read your own website - under 'Glossary of Terms'
it says

=============

Spam Very controversial. Refers to the act of posting the same
message to several inappropriate newsgroups or, more commonly, mass
mailing unsolicited email messages.

=============

If I, as one of your clients, had paid you between 75 pounds and 465
pounds per month for your advertised service .........

quote
This is where eSterling differs, our Microsoft Approved technical
specialists are constantly looking for ways to improve our knowledge
of eMarketing, with eSterling Ltd you are in safe hands.
unquote

.......then I'd be massively pi**ed off if you thought it was
appropriate to spam my website across the newsgroups - after all - you
are supposed to be the experts.

Talk about the blind leading the blind !

Adrian

In article
,
writes
Hello,

I'd like to apologise for "spamming" on your forum. I recently posted
an add on behalf of a client, which was against Usenet rules.

Taking this into account, I can understand how genuine users of usenet
will be offended by all the spamming which takes place, and would like
to offer my sincere apologies.

It was no fault of the client, and I would be more than happy if any
offended users would like to forward their issues to me, which I will
be happy to address and respond to personally.

My actions were clearly intruding, and I can assure all users that it
will not be happening again.

If you don't understand that usenet = no ads unless there is an
'.ad.'/'adverts' in the group name then perhaps you are in the wrong
business.

Thanks for the apology, accepted if you would be good enough to tell us
if BT contacted you following an abuse report, I've previously regarded
them as the chocolate fireguard of abuse management so it would be nice
to get an update on their current performance.
--
fred
Plusnet - I hope you like vanilla

In article , geoff
writes
In message , Adrian
writes

Well - that's sort of the jist of what I wrote to them g
only perhaps in more diplomatic language (probably wasted on them !)

I don't know WHAT you mean

I'm famous for my "diplomatic"

err ...

I thing you're mixing up diplomacy and diplomatic immunity ;-)
--
fred
Plusnet - I hope you like vanilla

wrote:
http://www.stf-fasteners.co.uk

To
Cc:

Subject: Spam Advertising By Your Firm

Hi -

You may be aware that adverts for your company are being posted to internet
discussion groups by someone called .

You may not be aware that these groups have a firmly-held prohibition upon
commercial advertising, and there is a lot of ill-feeling towards people who
defy that convention.

Your agent has chosen to post one such message into a group called uk-diy,
and thus antagonised a significant element of your market. I suspect this
will not be the only complaint you receive.

Please don't do it again.

Thanks -

Steve Walker

On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:10:54 -0000, "Steve Walker"
wrote:

wrote:
http://www.stf-fasteners.co.uk

To
Cc:

Subject: Spam Advertising By Your Firm

Hi -

You may be aware that adverts for your company are being posted to internet
discussion groups by someone called .

You may not be aware that these groups have a firmly-held prohibition upon
commercial advertising, and there is a lot of ill-feeling towards people who
defy that convention.

Your agent has chosen to post one such message into a group called uk-diy,
and thus antagonised a significant element of your market. I suspect this
will not be the only complaint you receive.

Please don't do it again.

Thanks -

Steve Walker


Why did you say "Please don't do it again" . It wasn't the company who
was "doing it"