but I decided to buy two of their Freeview boxes on offer this morning.
So I buys two and brings em home only to find the they won't coe out of
stand-by after a fiddle still no joy so I decides that they be faulty,taes
em back for a replacement and brings the other two home.
Same problem they won't come out of stand-by after another fiddle it would
seem you have to press the OK button and then press stand-by lol now then
the problem here is if you are in the middle of a function and want to just
shove it in stand-by mode you have to remember what the last function you
done and then press OK and press stand-by.

pffft **** that they're are going back tomorrow.

Sheeesh! me remebers again not to buy electronic ****e from Aldi.

On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 14:07:48 GMT, "George"
wrote:

but I decided to buy two of their Freeview boxes on offer this morning.
So I buys two and brings em home only to find the they won't coe out of
stand-by after a fiddle still no joy so I decides that they be faulty,taes
em back for a replacement and brings the other two home.
Same problem they won't come out of stand-by after another fiddle it would
seem you have to press the OK button and then press stand-by lol now then
the problem here is if you are in the middle of a function and want to just
shove it in stand-by mode you have to remember what the last function you
done and then press OK and press stand-by.

pffft **** that they're are going back tomorrow.

Sheeesh! me remebers again not to buy electronic ****e from Aldi.


And what exactly were you expecting for £18.99 ?

HelpMe wrote in message ...
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 14:07:48 GMT, "George"
wrote:

but I decided to buy two of their Freeview boxes on offer this morning.
So I buys two and brings em home only to find the they won't coe out of
stand-by after a fiddle still no joy so I decides that they be
faulty,taes
em back for a replacement and brings the other two home.
Same problem they won't come out of stand-by after another fiddle it
would
seem you have to press the OK button and then press stand-by lol now then
the problem here is if you are in the middle of a function and want to
just
shove it in stand-by mode you have to remember what the last function you
done and then press OK and press stand-by.

pffft **** that they're are going back tomorrow.

Sheeesh! me remebers again not to buy electronic ****e from Aldi.


And what exactly were you expecting for £18.99 ?

A freeview box that when you pressed the stand-by button it went into ON
mode and when you pressed it again it went into OFF mode.

Instead I got OK then stand-by ON and OK stand-by OFF. lol :-P

Anyway I'll go to Argos and buy two for £14 each. ;-)

In article ,
says...
A freeview box that when you pressed the stand-by button it went into ON
mode and when you pressed it again it went into OFF mode.

Neither of our last two tellys worked like that.

--
Skipweasel.
Never knowingly understood.

On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 14:20:52 +0000, HelpMe wrote:

pffft **** that they're are going back tomorrow.

Sheeesh! me remebers again not to buy electronic ****e from Aldi.


And what exactly were you expecting for £18.99 ?

Dunno, there's a lot around that price and paying more doesn't
necessarily guarantee any more logical or intuitive behaviour, or for
that matter any better build quality nowadays.

A fancier name on the stick on badge such as Quad or Warfedale, it's
safe to reckon you pay more for that, the manufacturer will have had
to buy it or pay to use it.

The Great British Public wanted cheap.

They got cheap.

DG

In message , Derek Geldard
wrote


A fancier name on the stick on badge such as Quad or Warfedale, it's
safe to reckon you pay more for that, the manufacturer will have had
to buy it or pay to use it.

Wharfedale is just a brand name owned by IAG that is put on items built
in their Shenzhen factory. The group also brands Mission, Quad and
Audiolab products.


--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

On 2007-12-23 14:07:48 +0000, "George" said:

but I decided to buy two of their Freeview boxes on offer this morning.
So I buys two and brings em home only to find the they won't coe out of
stand-by after a fiddle still no joy so I decides that they be faulty,taes
em back for a replacement and brings the other two home.
Same problem they won't come out of stand-by after another fiddle it would
seem you have to press the OK button and then press stand-by lol now then
the problem here is if you are in the middle of a function and want to just
shove it in stand-by mode you have to remember what the last function you
done and then press OK and press stand-by.

pffft **** that they're are going back tomorrow.

Sheeesh! me remebers again not to buy electronic ****e from Aldi.

Better yet, don't buy anything from Aldi.

The cost of two wasted trips, the fuel to get there (twice) and the time.

Try asking them for reimbursement for the cost of all of that in
addition to the refund of the goods so that we can find out just how
bad their customer service really is.

On Dec 23, 4:20 pm, Andy Hall wrote:
On 2007-12-23 14:07:48 +0000, "George" said:

but I decided to buy two of their Freeview boxes on offer this morning.
So I buys two and brings em home only to find the they won't coe out of
stand-by after a fiddle still no joy so I decides that they be faulty,taes
em back for a replacement and brings the other two home.
Same problem they won't come out of stand-by after another fiddle it would
seem you have to press the OK button and then press stand-by lol now then
the problem here is if you are in the middle of a function and want to just
shove it in stand-by mode you have to remember what the last function you
done and then press OK and press stand-by.

pffft **** that they're are going back tomorrow.

Sheeesh! me remebers again not to buy electronic ****e from Aldi.

Better yet, don't buy anything from Aldi.

The cost of two wasted trips, the fuel to get there (twice) and the time.

Try asking them for reimbursement for the cost of all of that in
addition to the refund of the goods so that we can find out just how
bad their customer service really is.

Aldi's customer service is actually very good. I'd like to know which
store would ever pay for your fuel costs.

On 2007-12-23 16:25:49 +0000, said:

On Dec 23, 4:20 pm, Andy Hall wrote:
On 2007-12-23 14:07:48 +0000, "George" said:

but I decided to buy two of their Freeview boxes on offer this morning.
So I buys two and brings em home only to find the they won't coe out of
stand-by after a fiddle still no joy so I decides that they be faulty,taes
em back for a replacement and brings the other two home.
Same problem they won't come out of stand-by after another fiddle it would
seem you have to press the OK button and then press stand-by lol now then
the problem here is if you are in the middle of a function and want to just
shove it in stand-by mode you have to remember what the last function you
done and then press OK and press stand-by.

pffft **** that they're are going back tomorrow.

Sheeesh! me remebers again not to buy electronic ****e from Aldi.

Better yet, don't buy anything from Aldi.

The cost of two wasted trips, the fuel to get there (twice) and the time.

Try asking them for reimbursement for the cost of all of that in
addition to the refund of the goods so that we can find out just how
bad their customer service really is.

Aldi's customer service is actually very good.

Not if they don't offer reimbursement for the additional cost of
returning goods that are not fit for purpose.


I'd like to know which
store would ever pay for your fuel costs.

From the top of my head, the following, in the last few years:

Marks & Spencer. I telephoned a store to check whether they had a
specific style and size of shirt in stock. They confirmed that they
had. I arrived there and they hadn't. Result was refund of fuel
costs in cash with no purchase made.

B&Q. Second return of a Scorpion saw. Refund of fuel costs plus
voucher for the store

Virgin Megastore. Classical work consisting of two CDs purchased. The
package contained two of the no. 1 CD rather than one of each. Fuel
costs refunded, CD replaced, voucher for two additional CDs.

John Lewis. Ceiling fan purchased. Same item found at local store for
lower price. Difference refunded, fuel cost, voucher for the store
and another for lunch in store restaurant.

Safeway (before acquisition by Morrisons). Defective food product.
Product refunded. Fuel refunded. Reimbursement for Sunday lunch at
local restaurant. Their alternative would have been a discussion
with Trading Standards and an almost certain prosecution.

Marks and Spencer. Unable to meet delivery commitment. Free
delivery and substantial discount.


These are among the many reasons why I won't buy from places like Aldi,
Lidl, Netto, Makro,....

"Andy Hall" wrote in message

Not if they don't offer reimbursement for the additional cost of
returning goods that are not fit for purpose.


I'd like to know which
store would ever pay for your fuel costs.

From the top of my head, the following, in the last few years:

Marks & Spencer. I telephoned a store to check whether they had a
specific style and size of shirt in stock. They confirmed that they
had. I arrived there and they hadn't. Result was refund of fuel
costs in cash with no purchase made.

B&Q. Second return of a Scorpion saw. Refund of fuel costs plus
voucher for the store

Virgin Megastore. Classical work consisting of two CDs purchased. The
package contained two of the no. 1 CD rather than one of each. Fuel
costs refunded, CD replaced, voucher for two additional CDs.

John Lewis. Ceiling fan purchased. Same item found at local store for
lower price. Difference refunded, fuel cost, voucher for the store
and another for lunch in store restaurant.

Safeway (before acquisition by Morrisons). Defective food product.
Product refunded. Fuel refunded. Reimbursement for Sunday lunch at
local restaurant. Their alternative would have been a discussion
with Trading Standards and an almost certain prosecution.

Marks and Spencer. Unable to meet delivery commitment. Free
delivery and substantial discount.


These are among the many reasons why I won't buy from places like Aldi,
Lidl, Netto, Makro,....






And all said stores have marked your cards as an INVALID customer ie don't
serve this guy anymore. :-)
MrHall most people would be too embarassed tomake a scene in public.
I bet the wife hates going shopping with you?

On 2007-12-23 18:21:57 +0000, "George" said:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message

Not if they don't offer reimbursement for the additional cost of
returning goods that are not fit for purpose.


I'd like to know which
store would ever pay for your fuel costs.

From the top of my head, the following, in the last few years:

Marks & Spencer. I telephoned a store to check whether they had a
specific style and size of shirt in stock. They confirmed that they
had. I arrived there and they hadn't. Result was refund of fuel
costs in cash with no purchase made.

B&Q. Second return of a Scorpion saw. Refund of fuel costs plus
voucher for the store

Virgin Megastore. Classical work consisting of two CDs purchased. The
package contained two of the no. 1 CD rather than one of each. Fuel
costs refunded, CD replaced, voucher for two additional CDs.

John Lewis. Ceiling fan purchased. Same item found at local store for
lower price. Difference refunded, fuel cost, voucher for the store
and another for lunch in store restaurant.

Safeway (before acquisition by Morrisons). Defective food product.
Product refunded. Fuel refunded. Reimbursement for Sunday lunch at
local restaurant. Their alternative would have been a discussion
with Trading Standards and an almost certain prosecution.

Marks and Spencer. Unable to meet delivery commitment. Free
delivery and substantial discount.


These are among the many reasons why I won't buy from places like Aldi,
Lidl, Netto, Makro,....






And all said stores have marked your cards as an INVALID customer ie don't
serve this guy anymore. :-)

Nope. I've purchased from all of them both before and after these events.


MrHall most people would be too embarassed tomake a scene in public.

There is no need to make a scene. One can be quietly assertive with
the store manager. That is the simple route to a satisfactory
outcome.

It is exactly because people are willing to accept poor service without
asking for recompense that service doesn't improve.

This is one of the worst aspects of British culture and mindset. For
some reason, some supplers seem to think that providing good service is
beneath them (perhaps it's a residue from generations of domestic
service) and that not doing what you say that you will do is acceptable.

The assumption is that they will get away with it because British
people culturally won't complain.

It isn't acceptable.

In many other countries, these cultural hangups don't exist to anything
like the same degree. For example, in the Nordic countries, providing
good service is considered to be doing one's job properly and
professionally and it is not demeaning. By and large this results in
a lack of a need to complain about poor service.

Charging a low price isn't an excuse either, unless one specifically
states that good service is excluded. Of course that could be seen
as a way of trying to wriggle out of statutory commitments so is seldom
used.

I have a very simple attitude to service associated with the buying and
selling of goods and services. State clearly what you are going to do
and then meet or exceed it. Price the goods or services to achieve
that. Expect that if you fall short of the commitment that you will
have to adjust the price that the customer pays overall to address the
shortfall. If that involves paying for his out of pocket expenses then
so be it.

This way if the service falls short, there will be attention to making
it better in the future, and if it exceeds expectation, one gets repeat
business and recommendation. That is a very inexpensive way of
retaining customers and developing new business.

Contrast this with the approach of mainly meeting commitments and
frequently falling short. Some people won't bother to return the
goods but won't purchase from the supplier in future. Others will
return the goods for refund and expect nothing more but continue to
shop in the store. They are doing themselves, the supplier and other
customers a disservice.

George wrote in message
.uk...

"Andy Hall" wrote in message

Not if they don't offer reimbursement for the additional cost of
returning goods that are not fit for purpose.

MrHall most people would be too embarassed tomake a scene in public.
I bet the wife hates going shopping with you?

No she was returned to the in-laws, but they did pay for the fuel costs
involved.



-

In message 476ea4a5@qaanaaq, Andy Hall wrote


These are among the many reasons why I won't buy from places like Aldi,
Lidl, Netto, Makro,....

The other stores can afford to give you back more of your money because
you purchased at twice the price in the first place.

--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

On 2007-12-23 18:39:15 +0000, Alan said:

In message 476ea4a5@qaanaaq, Andy Hall wrote


These are among the many reasons why I won't buy from places like Aldi,
Lidl, Netto, Makro,....

The other stores can afford to give you back more of your money because
you purchased at twice the price in the first place.

Incorrect.

However, what is the point in going through the exercise of buying some
dodgy item, only to discover that it is not fit for purpose and wasting
the time and fuel on two trips?



'Its unwise to pay too much. But its worse to pay too little.

When you pay too much, you lose a little money, that is all.

When you pay too little you sometimes lose everything, because the
thing you bought was incapable of
doing the thing it was bought to do.

The common law of business balances prohibits paying a little and
getting a lot. It cant be done. If you deal
with the lowest bidder it is well to add something for the risk you run.

And if you do that, you will have enough to pay for something better.

There is hardly anything in the world that someone cant make a little
worse and sell a little cheaper€”and people who consider price alone are
this mans lawful prey.'


John Ruskin (1819-1900)


I somehow doubt that John Ruskin shopped in Aldi either.

"Andy Hall" wrote in message news:476ea4a5@qaanaaq...
On 2007-12-23 16:25:49 +0000, said:

On Dec 23, 4:20 pm, Andy Hall wrote:
On 2007-12-23 14:07:48 +0000, "George" said:

but I decided to buy two of their Freeview boxes on offer this morning.
So I buys two and brings em home only to find the they won't coe out of
stand-by after a fiddle still no joy so I decides that they be
faulty,taes
em back for a replacement and brings the other two home.
Same problem they won't come out of stand-by after another fiddle it
would
seem you have to press the OK button and then press stand-by lol now
then
the problem here is if you are in the middle of a function and want to
just
shove it in stand-by mode you have to remember what the last function
you
done and then press OK and press stand-by.

pffft **** that they're are going back tomorrow.

Sheeesh! me remebers again not to buy electronic ****e from Aldi.

Better yet, don't buy anything from Aldi.

The cost of two wasted trips, the fuel to get there (twice) and the
time.

Try asking them for reimbursement for the cost of all of that in
addition to the refund of the goods so that we can find out just how
bad their customer service really is.

Aldi's customer service is actually very good.

Not if they don't offer reimbursement for the additional cost of returning
goods that are not fit for purpose.

Where are the goods that are unfit for purpose?
Its a freeview box that has a safety feature to stop you turning it on and
off by mistake.
Just because someone doesn't read the manual doesn't make it unfit.
The OP is lucky Aldi didn't tell him to bogoff after returning a second set
of working products.

On 2007-12-23 20:14:44 +0000, "dennis@home"
said:



"Andy Hall" wrote in message news:476ea4a5@qaanaaq...
On 2007-12-23 16:25:49 +0000, said:

On Dec 23, 4:20 pm, Andy Hall wrote:
On 2007-12-23 14:07:48 +0000, "George" said:

but I decided to buy two of their Freeview boxes on offer this morning.
So I buys two and brings em home only to find the they won't coe out of
stand-by after a fiddle still no joy so I decides that they be faulty,taes
em back for a replacement and brings the other two home.
Same problem they won't come out of stand-by after another fiddle it would
seem you have to press the OK button and then press stand-by lol now then
the problem here is if you are in the middle of a function and want to just
shove it in stand-by mode you have to remember what the last function you
done and then press OK and press stand-by.

pffft **** that they're are going back tomorrow.

Sheeesh! me remebers again not to buy electronic ****e from Aldi.

Better yet, don't buy anything from Aldi.

The cost of two wasted trips, the fuel to get there (twice) and the time.

Try asking them for reimbursement for the cost of all of that in
addition to the refund of the goods so that we can find out just how
bad their customer service really is.

Aldi's customer service is actually very good.

Not if they don't offer reimbursement for the additional cost of
returning goods that are not fit for purpose.

Where are the goods that are unfit for purpose?
Its a freeview box that has a safety feature to stop you turning it on
and off by mistake.
Just because someone doesn't read the manual doesn't make it unfit.
The OP is lucky Aldi didn't tell him to bogoff after returning a second
set of working products.




If something that should be simple to operate is unnecessarily
complicated for no good reason, then it isn't fit for purpose.

Having said that, I would have researched the purchase first and in any
case wouldn't have bought from one of these places.

"dennis@home" wrote in message

Where are the goods that are unfit for purpose?
Its a freeview box that has a safety feature to stop you turning it on and
off by mistake.
Just because someone doesn't read the manual doesn't make it unfit.
The OP is lucky Aldi didn't tell him to bogoff after returning a second
set
of working products.





Hello Dennis the menace out of all the electrical consumer units I have in
relation to visual and hearing entertainment not one of them feature a
second button to turn the units from on to off & vice versa.
This thing has been programmed incorrectly,I shouldn't have to fiddle about
with a second button just to switch it off to stand-by mode.

As for the manual you don't need one to switch an item on&off as the button
marked in red should be self explanitory unless YOU need one that is?

Andy Hall wrote:

These are among the many reasons why I won't buy from places like Aldi,
Lidl, Netto, Makro,....

Not tried the others, but Makro seem ok on returns... especially when
you consider that their positioning as a wholesaler means purchases are
B2B and hence devoid of normal consumer protection.


--
Cheers,

John.

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"Andy Hall" wrote in message

Sheeesh! me remebers again not to buy electronic ****e from Aldi.

Better yet, don't buy anything from Aldi.


Nah! some of their tools are o for the price.

The cost of two wasted trips, the fuel to get there (twice) and the time.


MrHall I'm not lazy ie sometimes I do use my legs for excercise, as Aldi is
only a couple of hundred yards away from my home.

Try asking them for reimbursement for the cost of all of that in
addition to the refund of the goods so that we can find out just how
bad their customer service really is.




They don't argue about refunding the money back on the purchased goods.

On 2007-12-23 16:27:45 +0000, "George" said:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message

Sheeesh! me remebers again not to buy electronic ****e from Aldi.

Better yet, don't buy anything from Aldi.


Nah! some of their tools are o for the price.

"For the price" being the operative phrase.



The cost of two wasted trips, the fuel to get there (twice) and the time.


MrHall I'm not lazy ie sometimes I do use my legs for excercise, as Aldi is
only a couple of hundred yards away from my home.

How far away are the proper shops?


Try asking them for reimbursement for the cost of all of that in
addition to the refund of the goods so that we can find out just how
bad their customer service really is.




They don't argue about refunding the money back on the purchased goods.

How about for the time taken and th inconvenience? I thought not.

In article 476e8ab8@qaanaaq,
Andy Hall wrote:
Better yet, don't buy anything from Aldi.

The cost of two wasted trips, the fuel to get there (twice) and the time.

Try asking them for reimbursement for the cost of all of that in
addition to the refund of the goods so that we can find out just how
bad their customer service really is.

Tell me which firms you use that refund the cost of fuel to get there when
you need to after you find a faulty product. And a cop out saying you
wouldn't buy from a firm that supplies faulty products won't wash.

--
*Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 2007-12-24 09:50:34 +0000, "Dave Plowman (News)"
said:

In article 476e8ab8@qaanaaq,
Andy Hall wrote:
Better yet, don't buy anything from Aldi.

The cost of two wasted trips, the fuel to get there (twice) and the time.

Try asking them for reimbursement for the cost of all of that in
addition to the refund of the goods so that we can find out just how
bad their customer service really is.

Tell me which firms you use that refund the cost of fuel to get there when
you need to after you find a faulty product. And a cop out saying you
wouldn't buy from a firm that supplies faulty products won't wash.

Of course. See other post. The list includes:

- B&Q

- Marks & Spencer

- John Lewis

- Virgin Megastore

- Safeway

Andy Hall wrote:
On 2007-12-24 09:50:34 +0000, "Dave Plowman (News)"
said:

In article 476e8ab8@qaanaaq,
Andy Hall wrote:
Better yet, don't buy anything from Aldi.

The cost of two wasted trips, the fuel to get there (twice) and the
time.

Try asking them for reimbursement for the cost of all of that in
addition to the refund of the goods so that we can find out just how
bad their customer service really is.

Tell me which firms you use that refund the cost of fuel to get there
when
you need to after you find a faulty product. And a cop out saying you
wouldn't buy from a firm that supplies faulty products won't wash.

Of course. See other post. The list includes:

- B&Q

- Marks & Spencer

- John Lewis

- Virgin Megastore

- Safeway



I am curious to know why you won't buy from Aldi on the grounds that
they're a food store and should stick to what they know. M&S will sell
anything they can make a fast buck out of.

On 2007-12-24 14:00:49 +0000, Stuart Noble
said:

Andy Hall wrote:
On 2007-12-24 09:50:34 +0000, "Dave Plowman (News)"
said:

In article 476e8ab8@qaanaaq,
Andy Hall wrote:
Better yet, don't buy anything from Aldi.

The cost of two wasted trips, the fuel to get there (twice) and the time.

Try asking them for reimbursement for the cost of all of that in
addition to the refund of the goods so that we can find out just how
bad their customer service really is.

Tell me which firms you use that refund the cost of fuel to get there when
you need to after you find a faulty product. And a cop out saying you
wouldn't buy from a firm that supplies faulty products won't wash.

Of course. See other post. The list includes:

- B&Q

- Marks & Spencer

- John Lewis

- Virgin Megastore

- Safeway



I am curious to know why you won't buy from Aldi on the grounds that
they're a food store and should stick to what they know. M&S will sell
anything they can make a fast buck out of.

M&S have sold clothes and food ever since I can remember, and I will
buy either of those from them. In general their products are of good
quality and their customer service ethic can't be faulted, IME. I
would not buy electrical goods, domestic appliances or financial
products from them. Excessive diversification does not take customer
service in the correct direction.

I won't buy from Aldi for a variety of reasons mentioned previously,
including that they are a (poor quality) grocery warehouse. I don't
like to buy food in a warehouse.

On Dec 23, 2:07 pm, "George" wrote:
but I decided to buy two of their Freeview boxes on offer this morning.
So I buys two and brings em home only to find the they won't coe out of
stand-by after a fiddle still no joy so I decides that they be faulty,taes
em back for a replacement and brings the other two home.
Same problem they won't come out of stand-by after another fiddle it would
seem you have to press the OK button and then press stand-by lol now then
the problem here is if you are in the middle of a function and want to just
shove it in stand-by mode you have to remember what the last function you
done and then press OK and press stand-by.

pffft **** that they're are going back tomorrow.

Sheeesh! me remebers again not to buy electronic ****e from Aldi.

I honestly can't make head or tail of what you've actually said. Did
you actually bother to read the instructions or do the typical bloke
thing of thinking you know best?

Aldi electronic stuff is no worse than most. I've got a Nokia digital
receiver here which is a pile of pants - takes ages to respond to
remote commands and then locks up every other day.
Seems we have to get used to modern technology being full of bugs. A
compromise I suppose for the fact that we're paying a fraction of the
prices 20 years ago.

wrote in message

I honestly can't make head or tail of what you've actually said. Did
you actually bother to read the instructions or do the typical bloke
thing of thinking you know best?


quite simple really.

A stand-by button is for the purpose of switching an item on&off.
This one you have press a button marked 'OK' before pressing stand-by
button,rather defeats the object of stand-by don't you think?

On Dec 23, 4:32 pm, "George" wrote:
wrote in message

I honestly can't make head or tail of what you've actually said. Did
you actually bother to read the instructions or do the typical bloke
thing of thinking you know best?

quite simple really.

A stand-by button is for the purpose of switching an item on&off.
This one you have press a button marked 'OK' before pressing stand-by
button,rather defeats the object of stand-by don't you think?

Most modern receivers don't rely on just pressing the stand by button
to turn it on. It's normally done by pressing one of the channel
buttons. Try that instead. To turn off, the standby button should work
by itself.

wrote in message

Most modern receivers don't rely on just pressing the stand by button
to turn it on. It's normally done by pressing one of the channel
buttons. Try that instead. To turn off, the standby button should work
by itself.

Nah! I'll take it back instead.

ps that doesn't work neither as its what I try anyway, hence the word
'fiddle' in my original post.

George wrote:
wrote in message
Most modern receivers don't rely on just pressing the stand by button
to turn it on. It's normally done by pressing one of the channel
buttons. Try that instead. To turn off, the standby button should work
by itself.

Nah! I'll take it back instead.

ps that doesn't work neither as its what I try anyway, hence the word
'fiddle' in my original post.



ASDA Freeview box works just fine. If it doesn't within 12 months, I get
a refund. Then I might press for a free pork pie

In article ,
says...
A stand-by button is for the purpose of switching an item on&off.
This one you have press a button marked 'OK' before pressing stand-by
button,rather defeats the object of stand-by don't you think?

Not really, no. Makes it very slightly more complicated, but hardly
brain taxing.

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Never knowingly understood.