Are these OK for batroom use? My Mums bathroom is very cold at the moment
(obviously). She is toying with the idea of a De Longhi radiator with a
hole drilled through the wall and plugged into a socket on the landing. If
I cut the plug off and drill a hole for the cable and re attach the plug
will it be safe using the rad in this situation. I was thinking of
shortening the cable so there would be no chance of it finding it's way into
the bath.

Cheers

John

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Are these OK for batroom use? My Mums bathroom is very cold at the moment
(obviously). She is toying with the idea of a De Longhi radiator with a
hole drilled through the wall and plugged into a socket on the landing.
If I cut the plug off and drill a hole for the cable and re attach the
plug will it be safe using the rad in this situation. I was thinking of
shortening the cable so there would be no chance of it finding it's way
into the bath.



A few years ago my parents had a similar problem and mounted a Dimplex
radiant bar type heater with a pull switch high up on the wall to reflect
the heat down. You can also get the blower type heaters, intended for
bathroom use, that fit in the same way.
--
Keith Willcocks
(If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!)

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from "John" contains these words:

Are these OK for batroom use? My Mums bathroom is very cold at the moment
(obviously). She is toying with the idea of a De Longhi radiator with a
hole drilled through the wall and plugged into a socket on the landing. If
I cut the plug off and drill a hole for the cable and re attach the plug
will it be safe using the rad in this situation. I was thinking of
shortening the cable so there would be no chance of it finding it's
way into
the bath.


No, they're not generally OK unless there's no switch or other control
on the radiator. If they had no switch or other control they might be
regarded as OK to fix permanently to the wall and supply via a fused
spur unit.

However, the answer's much simpler. There are heated electric towel
rails built on the same principle, some with a radiant panel in them, to
serve the purpose in bathrooms. Supply it via a fused spur unit. There
you are, designed for the job!

http://www.towelrads.com/product.php?catID=1
http://www.heatandplumb.com/acatalog...t_brochure.pdf
http://www.heatandplumb.com/acatalog...20mm_High.html
http://www.grantandstone.co.uk/heati...owel-rails.htm
http://www.heatandplumb.com/acatalog...mer_E0350.html

However, for quick and easy comfort, why not try a heat and light
fitting? The comfort effect is far in excess of what you'd expect from
the wattage rating, because it's radiant heat. The cost is low -- a
decent one should be around £30 from Argos or wherever.

"John" wrote in message
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Are these OK for batroom use? My Mums bathroom is very cold at the moment
(obviously). She is toying with the idea of a De Longhi radiator with a
hole drilled through the wall and plugged into a socket on the landing.
If I cut the plug off and drill a hole for the cable and re attach the
plug will it be safe using the rad in this situation. I was thinking of
shortening the cable so there would be no chance of it finding it's way
into the bath.

Cheers

John

Am wondering if the rad has any electric switchgear (ON/OFF thermostat etc)
that may be used by a wet person from a bath??

Bad idea that.

Lol

"John" wrote:
Are these OK for batroom use? My Mums bathroom is very cold at the moment
(obviously). She is toying with the idea of a De Longhi radiator with a
hole drilled through the wall and plugged into a socket on the landing.
If I cut the plug off and drill a hole for the cable and re attach the
plug will it be safe using the rad in this situation. I was thinking of
shortening the cable so there would be no chance of it finding it's way
into the bath.

Cheers

John

Personally I would only fit a heater that was designed for bathroom use, and
I don't know whether this applies to the De Longhi. Have you thought about
installing a bathroom ceiling heat and light unit? You just replace the
existing ceiling light with one of these:
http://www.ryness.co.uk/ProductDetai...ProductID=1115

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"John" wrote:
Are these OK for batroom use? My Mums bathroom is very cold at the moment
(obviously). She is toying with the idea of a De Longhi radiator with a
hole drilled through the wall and plugged into a socket on the landing.
If I cut the plug off and drill a hole for the cable and re attach the
plug will it be safe using the rad in this situation. I was thinking of
shortening the cable so there would be no chance of it finding it's way
into the bath.

Personally I would only fit a heater that was designed for bathroom use, and
I don't know whether this applies to the De Longhi. Have you thought about
installing a bathroom ceiling heat and light unit? You just replace the
existing ceiling light with one of these:
http://www.ryness.co.uk/ProductDetai...ProductID=1115

Gosh -- it's 40 years since I've seen one of those.
The one in the picture looks like it would fail a PAT test
as you can touch the silica glass element tube (which counts
as a live part for PAT test purposes) through the grill, so
it's not IP2X.

Personally, I like wall mounted fan heaters for bathrooms.
Trouble is that pressure to reduce prices means they all
seem to be fitted with crap quality pull-cord switches.
I would be tempted to fit a separate pullcord switch to
control the heater (a shower pullcord switch would be fine).

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"DIY" writes:
"John" wrote:
Are these OK for batroom use? My Mums bathroom is very cold at the
moment
(obviously). She is toying with the idea of a De Longhi radiator with a
hole drilled through the wall and plugged into a socket on the landing.
If I cut the plug off and drill a hole for the cable and re attach the
plug will it be safe using the rad in this situation. I was thinking of
shortening the cable so there would be no chance of it finding it's way
into the bath.

Personally I would only fit a heater that was designed for bathroom use,
and
I don't know whether this applies to the De Longhi. Have you thought
about
installing a bathroom ceiling heat and light unit? You just replace the
existing ceiling light with one of these:
http://www.ryness.co.uk/ProductDetai...ProductID=1115

Gosh -- it's 40 years since I've seen one of those.
The one in the picture looks like it would fail a PAT test
as you can touch the silica glass element tube (which counts
as a live part for PAT test purposes) through the grill, so
it's not IP2X.

I would also not want to add another 750W to an unknown lighting circuit.

Personally, I like wall mounted fan heaters for bathrooms.
Trouble is that pressure to reduce prices means they all
seem to be fitted with crap quality pull-cord switches.
I would be tempted to fit a separate pullcord switch to
control the heater (a shower pullcord switch would be fine).

I prefer these switches

http://www.allaboutelectrics.co.uk/doc/12/vid/1555/CRABTREE_16A_CEILING_PULL_SWITCH.html

as the are not as big/ugly as a shower pull switch.

Adam

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I would also not want to add another 750W to an unknown lighting circuit.

You don't need to -- a heat and light bulb will only be rated at about
250 watts and can be remarkably effective.

In any case, the suggestion was to take power from the ring circuit. In
which case

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/SHHL1.html

might be a very interesting investment.

However, I think keeping the temperature up all the time is appropriate
in a bathroom, to avoid condensation when a bath is run.

There are special rules in the UK for electrical equipment to be installed
in bathrooms.
The requirements depend on where in the bathroom the equipment is placed
relative to the bath or shower, see BS 7671 section 601 which you should be
able to access at the local library.
There is also a requirement that the equipment should only be installed by
an Part P-certified electrician.

In general I would recommend that you only install a heater designed
specifically for bathroom use. Try doing a Goggle UK search there are lots
available.

I hope this helps

BillB

Yorkshire lad in exile.