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Scaffold/access towers - follow-up
I ordered a tower last Friday, from he
http://www.ladders-999.co.uk/towers_domestic.htm £260 for 12'6" platform, 2 outrigger stabilisers, and adjustable feet for all 4 legs. A real bargain. It arrived Tuesday, and I was soon unwrapping it and assembling it. Basic but well worth the price. It is a bit unsteady until both cross bars have been fitted, then with the outriggers fitted, and levelled up, it was very stable. There were 2 slightly tight sections, but otherwise it slotted together without a fault. I bought 5 5' scaffold boards from a local supplier - £18, and screwed in sections of 3x2 wood on the bottom to stop them moving about when placed on the platform. I didnt need the extra 2'6" section to get good access to the guttering, but with that fitted, it gives a better protection against falling over the edge! If you are in the market for one, I dont think you can get better for occasional use. Alan. -- To reply by e-mail, change the ' + ' to 'plus'. |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:24:36 +0100, A.Lee wrote:
I ordered a tower last Friday, from he http://www.ladders-999.co.uk/towers_domestic.htm £260 for 12'6" platform, 2 outrigger stabilisers, and adjustable feet for all 4 legs. A real bargain. It arrived Tuesday, and I was soon unwrapping it and assembling it. Basic but well worth the price. It is a bit unsteady until both cross bars have been fitted, then with the outriggers fitted, and levelled up, it was very stable. There were 2 slightly tight sections, but otherwise it slotted together without a fault. I bought 5 5' scaffold boards from a local supplier - £18, and screwed in sections of 3x2 wood on the bottom to stop them moving about when placed on the platform. I didnt need the extra 2'6" section to get good access to the guttering, but with that fitted, it gives a better protection against falling over the edge! If you are in the market for one, I dont think you can get better for occasional use. Alan. ================================== I notice that they provide a method of creating a cantilevered configuration. In my view this looks rather unsafe and likely to damage the roof on which it rests. This is how my tower with cantilevered section looked recently when working over part of a neighbour's house. http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...s/DSCI0009.jpg I have used the same configuration at a reach of nearly 10' but in that case I used the 45 degree supports on 18mm boards on the roof itself to spread the weight a little. No damage ensued. Cic. -- =================================== Using Ubuntu Linux Windows shown the door =================================== |
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A.Lee coughed up some electrons that declared:
I ordered a tower last Friday, from he http://www.ladders-999.co.uk/towers_domestic.htm I'm very taken by the telescopic ladders they also sell: http://www.ladders-999.co.uk//ladders_telescopic.htm Anyone tried these? Tim |
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"Cicero" wrote in message news On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:24:36 +0100, A.Lee wrote: I ordered a tower last Friday, from he http://www.ladders-999.co.uk/towers_domestic.htm £260 for 12'6" platform, 2 outrigger stabilisers, and adjustable feet for all 4 legs. A real bargain. If you are in the market for one, I dont think you can get better for occasional use. Alan. ================================== I notice that they provide a method of creating a cantilevered configuration. In my view this looks rather unsafe and likely to damage the roof on which it rests. This is how my tower with cantilevered section looked recently when working over part of a neighbour's house. http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...s/DSCI0009.jpg I have used the same configuration at a reach of nearly 10' but in that case I used the 45 degree supports on 18mm boards on the roof itself to spread the weight a little. No damage ensued. I'm currently thinking about getting an aluminium one, for easier handling. Perhaps a used "pro" model rather than a new DIY one. Any views? |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:14:40 +0100, Newshound wrote:
"Cicero" wrote in message news On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:24:36 +0100, A.Lee wrote: I ordered a tower last Friday, from he http://www.ladders-999.co.uk/towers_domestic.htm £260 for 12'6" platform, 2 outrigger stabilisers, and adjustable feet for all 4 legs. A real bargain. If you are in the market for one, I dont think you can get better for occasional use. Alan. ================================== I notice that they provide a method of creating a cantilevered configuration. In my view this looks rather unsafe and likely to damage the roof on which it rests. This is how my tower with cantilevered section looked recently when working over part of a neighbour's house. http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...s/DSCI0009.jpg I have used the same configuration at a reach of nearly 10' but in that case I used the 45 degree supports on 18mm boards on the roof itself to spread the weight a little. No damage ensued. I'm currently thinking about getting an aluminium one, for easier handling. Perhaps a used "pro" model rather than a new DIY one. Any views? ================================== I doubt if there's any real difference in weight between an aluminium tower and the average DIY steel tower. I have a two 6' x 4' towers and I can easily lift one of the 6' x 3' sections to head height for erection. If you're considering buying a second hand 'pro' tower consider why it's being sold - maybe damaged in some way. Cic. -- =================================== Using Ubuntu Linux Windows shown the door =================================== |
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"Tim Southerwood" wrote in message ... snip I'm very taken by the telescopic ladders they also sell: http://www.ladders-999.co.uk//ladders_telescopic.htm Anyone tried these? Yes; I purchased one of these 3.3 m telescopic ladders- it does what it says on the tin! I particular like it for working on the stairs reaching to the ceiling and picture rails etc above the stairwell. I can carry it round corners and up the stairs collapsed down and then extend it upwards towards the ceilings. - no messing about with other ladders and boards. Collapsed it stows away on top of an upright freezer. {Why do the adverts for similar devices always claim that it'll fit under the bed and/or into a closet?] -- Brian |
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Brian Sharrock coughed up some electrons that declared:
"Tim Southerwood" wrote in message ... snip I'm very taken by the telescopic ladders they also sell: http://www.ladders-999.co.uk//ladders_telescopic.htm Anyone tried these? Yes; I purchased one of these 3.3 m telescopic ladders- it does what it says on the tin! I particular like it for working on the stairs reaching to the ceiling and picture rails etc above the stairwell. I can carry it round corners and up the stairs collapsed down and then extend it upwards towards the ceilings. - no messing about with other ladders and boards. Collapsed it stows away on top of an upright freezer. {Why do the adverts for similar devices always claim that it'll fit under the bed and/or into a closet?] Excellent - thanks Brian. I think I'll get one of those. Cheers Tim |
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A.Lee wrote:
I ordered a tower last Friday, from he http://www.ladders-999.co.uk/towers_domestic.htm £260 for 12'6" platform, 2 outrigger stabilisers, and adjustable feet for all 4 legs. A real bargain. It arrived Tuesday, and I was soon unwrapping it and assembling it. Basic but well worth the price. It is a bit unsteady until both cross bars have been fitted, then with the outriggers fitted, and levelled up, it was very stable. There were 2 slightly tight sections, but otherwise it slotted together without a fault. I bought 5 5' scaffold boards from a local supplier - £18, and screwed in sections of 3x2 wood on the bottom to stop them moving about when placed on the platform. I didnt need the extra 2'6" section to get good access to the guttering, but with that fitted, it gives a better protection against falling over the edge! If you are in the market for one, I dont think you can get better for occasional use. Alan. About twice what I paid for one without platform or outriggers. I made a platform out of 3x2 and some scaffolding planks: it has cantilever type bits that rest against the wall and stabilise it nicely. |
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Tim Southerwood wrote:
Excellent - thanks Brian. I think I'll get one of those. Makro had them at about £150 + VAT IIRC -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:11:33 +0100, Tim Southerwood
wrote: A.Lee coughed up some electrons that declared: I ordered a tower last Friday, from he http://www.ladders-999.co.uk/towers_domestic.htm I'm very taken by the telescopic ladders they also sell: http://www.ladders-999.co.uk//ladders_telescopic.htm Anyone tried these? Tim I have seen surveyors around here when doing surveys taking them out the car boot . |
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"Cicero" wrote in message news This is how my tower with cantilevered section looked recently when working over part of a neighbour's house. http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...s/DSCI0009.jpg Yours appears to be putting torsional loading on the tower.. something they are not designed for. Their examples transfer the load to the structure beneath which is how towers are designed to be used. Just remember that when you start to load it.. epecially with an alloy tower as there is little(no!) warning before it goes. |
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Stuart B wrote:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:11:33 +0100, Tim Southerwood wrote: A.Lee coughed up some electrons that declared: I ordered a tower last Friday, from he http://www.ladders-999.co.uk/towers_domestic.htm I'm very taken by the telescopic ladders they also sell: http://www.ladders-999.co.uk//ladders_telescopic.htm Anyone tried these? Tim I have seen surveyors around here when doing surveys taking them out the car boot . Christ, I've never seen a surveyor up a ladder! |
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"dennis@home" writes: "Cicero" wrote in message news This is how my tower with cantilevered section looked recently when working over part of a neighbour's house. http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...s/DSCI0009.jpg Yours appears to be putting torsional loading on the tower.. something they are not designed for. Their examples transfer the load to the structure beneath which is how towers are designed to be used. Just remember that when you start to load it.. epecially with an alloy tower as there is little(no!) warning before it goes. But at least the bottom is nice and level http://www.systems4business.co.nz/im.../Picture14.jpg ;-) -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:34:36 GMT, Stuart Noble
mused: Stuart B wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:11:33 +0100, Tim Southerwood wrote: A.Lee coughed up some electrons that declared: I ordered a tower last Friday, from he http://www.ladders-999.co.uk/towers_domestic.htm I'm very taken by the telescopic ladders they also sell: http://www.ladders-999.co.uk//ladders_telescopic.htm Anyone tried these? Tim I have seen surveyors around here when doing surveys taking them out the car boot . Christ, I've never seen a surveyor up a ladder! They just take them out of the boot, they don't go up them. -- Regards, Stuart. |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:34:36 GMT, Stuart Noble
wrote: Stuart B wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:11:33 +0100, Tim Southerwood wrote: A.Lee coughed up some electrons that declared: I ordered a tower last Friday, from he http://www.ladders-999.co.uk/towers_domestic.htm I'm very taken by the telescopic ladders they also sell: http://www.ladders-999.co.uk//ladders_telescopic.htm Anyone tried these? Tim I have seen surveyors around here when doing surveys taking them out the car boot . Christ, I've never seen a surveyor up a ladder! Well it's mostly tenement flats so for top floors they probably have a peek in to the loft space .. |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:31:41 +0100, dennis@home wrote:
"Cicero" wrote in message news This is how my tower with cantilevered section looked recently when working over part of a neighbour's house. http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...s/DSCI0009.jpg Yours appears to be putting torsional loading on the tower.. something they are not designed for. Their examples transfer the load to the structure beneath which is how towers are designed to be used. Just remember that when you start to load it.. epecially with an alloy tower as there is little(no!) warning before it goes. ================================== I'm aware of the possibility (and danger) of sideways loading on mine but I prefer putting the loading onto the tower rather than on the roof as suggested in the example shown in the OP's posting. In fact my usage is substantially protected by ensuring that the main horizontals butt up against the house wall as can *just* be seen in this alternative view: http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...s/DSCI0011.jpg A large wad of foam padding can be seen tied to the left hand end(s) of the horizontal member. My towers are steel and despite costing much less they're made from heavier gauge than those in the OP's post. Mine are 42mm od 16g steel as opposed to those in the advert - 32mm od 16g. Cic. -- =================================== Using Ubuntu Linux Windows shown the door =================================== |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:01:43 +0100, Lurch wrote:
I'm very taken by the telescopic ladders they also sell: Anyone tried these? I have seen surveyors around here when doing surveys taking them out the car boot . Christ, I've never seen a surveyor up a ladder! They just take them out of the boot, they don't go up them. Can't go up 'em 'elf 'n safety. If they do it'll be to open the loft hatch and shine a torch about. Certainly not to enter the loft, those elfs again. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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