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I installed a new heat exhanger in my ideal response 120
just over 12 months ago and now I am having to top the
pressure up again every 2 months, surely the new exhanger
hasn't started rotting allready dammit. I hate ideal.

rant over.

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I installed a new heat exhanger in my ideal response 120
just over 12 months ago and now I am having to top the
pressure up again every 2 months, surely the new exhanger
hasn't started rotting allready dammit. I hate ideal.

Are you sure that it is leaking from the HE ?

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I installed a new heat exhanger in my ideal response 120
just over 12 months ago and now I am having to top the
pressure up again every 2 months, surely the new exhanger
hasn't started rotting allready dammit. I hate ideal.

Are you sure that it is leaking from the HE ?

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I am not absolutely sure to be honest but i cant find
evidence of leaks around radiators or pipework.


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Block wrote:

I installed a new heat exhanger in my ideal response 120
just over 12 months ago and now I am having to top the
pressure up again every 2 months, surely the new exhanger
hasn't started rotting allready dammit. I hate ideal.

Are you sure that it is leaking from the HE ?

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I am not absolutely sure to be honest but i cant find
evidence of leaks around radiators or pipework.


How much water are you losing? If its a very slow leak you may find the
water evaporates before it leaves any trail.

How you got inhibitor in the system?

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I installed a new heat exhanger in my ideal response 120
just over 12 months ago and now I am having to top the
pressure up again every 2 months, surely the new exhanger
hasn't started rotting allready dammit. I hate ideal.


Have you got inhibitor in the system? As well as helping prevent corrosion
it seals small leaks.

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I installed a new heat exhanger in my ideal response 120
just over 12 months ago and now I am having to top the
pressure up again every 2 months, surely the new exhanger
hasn't started rotting allready dammit. I hate ideal.


Have you got inhibitor in the system? As well as helping prevent corrosion
it seals small leaks.


Don't see how. It appears to consist mainly of boric acid, which is very
soluble in hot water. I wonder what could be forming the seal.
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Block wrote:

I installed a new heat exhanger in my ideal response 120
just over 12 months ago and now I am having to top the
pressure up again every 2 months, surely the new exhanger
hasn't started rotting allready dammit. I hate ideal.


Have you got inhibitor in the system? As well as helping prevent corrosion
it seals small leaks.

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No it doesnt. You can of course add a little compatible internal leak
sealer

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Block wrote:

I installed a new heat exhanger in my ideal response 120
just over 12 months ago and now I am having to top the
pressure up again every 2 months, surely the new exhanger
hasn't started rotting allready dammit. I hate ideal.


Have you got inhibitor in the system? As well as helping prevent
corrosion it seals small leaks.


No it doesnt. You can of course add a little compatible internal leak
sealer


Indeed - sorry. I had an idea a combined type was available but looking at
the Fernox site it's not. But it may not have been Fernox I was thinking
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On Wed, 16 May 2007 23:21:42 +0100, a particular chimpanzee, "Block"
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I installed a new heat exhanger in my ideal response 120
just over 12 months ago and now I am having to top the
pressure up again every 2 months, surely the new exhanger
hasn't started rotting allready dammit. I hate ideal.


My mother's boiler was replaced by a less-than-reputable company
(Merseyside Central Heating) with an Ideal. The heat exchanger had a
catastrophic leak 14 months later.

Ideal sent a replacement H/E to be fitted by the original company, on
the understanding that they would retain the old one for testing. They
wrote back a few weeks later to say that the fault was due to a small
crack which was caused during installation.
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I installed a new heat exhanger in my ideal response 120
just over 12 months ago and now I am having to top the
pressure up again every 2 months, surely the new exhanger
hasn't started rotting allready dammit. I hate ideal.

Are you sure that it is leaking from the HE ?

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I am not absolutely sure to be honest but i cant find
evidence of leaks around radiators or pipework.

What about connections within the boiler

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On Wed, 16 May 2007 23:21:42 +0100, Block wrote:

Hi

I installed a new heat exhanger in my ideal response 120
just over 12 months ago and now I am having to top the
pressure up again every 2 months, surely the new exhanger
hasn't started rotting all ready dammit. I hate ideal.

rant over.

thanks


A Response is a condensing boiler without suitable provision or
materials for the condensate , the heat exchanger will always corrode.

Your best bet is to run the boiler on as high a setting as possible, with
as low a primary pressure as you can get away with and with leak sealer in
the primary. Leave all TRVs on max.


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On Wed, 16 May 2007 23:21:42 +0100, Block wrote:

Hi

I installed a new heat exhanger in my ideal response 120
just over 12 months ago and now I am having to top the
pressure up again every 2 months, surely the new exhanger
hasn't started rotting all ready dammit. I hate ideal.

rant over.

thanks


A Response is a condensing boiler without suitable provision or
materials for the condensate , the heat exchanger will always corrode.

Your best bet is to run the boiler on as high a setting as possible, with
as low a primary pressure as you can get away with and with leak sealer in
the primary. Leave all TRVs on max.


Thanks for replies


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Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html
Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html
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http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFittingStandards



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On Wed, 16 May 2007 23:21:42 +0100, Block wrote:

Hi

I installed a new heat exhanger in my ideal response 120
just over 12 months ago and now I am having to top the
pressure up again every 2 months, surely the new exhanger
hasn't started rotting all ready dammit. I hate ideal.

rant over.

thanks


A Response is a condensing boiler without suitable provision or
materials for the condensate , the heat exchanger will always corrode.


The Response IS NOT a condensing boiler and was never designed as one. It is
about the only non-condensing boiler with a pre-mix burner that's all. It
has a tube in tube heat exchanger. Your advice on running the boiler on a
high water flow and the highest temp is sound. The boiler is now
discontinued.

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