I wonder if anybody know anything about rat poison. I have an overseas
development and they get forest rats coming out of the neighbouring
forest and chewing everything in the bungalows and they put down
poison to kill the rats.
Unfortunately the cat eat a dead or dieing rat and died.
Are there any poisons that become inactive once digested by the host.
I am not sure whether cage traps would be available in the country
concerned since they are not so animal friendly and would just put
down poison and to hell with it.
I could take some out from the UK but I would need quite a few.
I can't take the risk of getting another cat so want to find a safer
alternative.

Kevin

"Kev" wrote:
I wonder if anybody know anything about rat poison. I have an overseas
development and they get forest rats coming out of the neighbouring
forest and chewing everything in the bungalows and they put down
poison to kill the rats.
Unfortunately the cat eat a dead or dieing rat and died.
Are there any poisons that become inactive once digested by the host.
I am not sure whether cage traps would be available in the country
concerned since they are not so animal friendly and would just put
down poison and to hell with it.
I could take some out from the UK but I would need quite a few.
I can't take the risk of getting another cat so want to find a safer
alternative.

Kevin

Rentokil can advise. http://www.rentokil-initial.com/contact.php

Kev wrote:

I wonder if anybody know anything about rat poison. I have an overseas
development and they get forest rats coming out of the neighbouring
forest and chewing everything in the bungalows and they put down
poison to kill the rats.
Unfortunately the cat eat a dead or dieing rat and died.
Are there any poisons that become inactive once digested by the host.

This is known as 'secondary poisoning'. Unfortunately I think cats
would be more likely to catch a dying rat that was slowed by the poison
than eat a dead one, so a poison that deactivates over time wouldn't be
much use for protecting the cat. The wikipedia article at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodenticide talks about 3 types of poison
in detail, anticoagulants, metal phosphides and calciferols. Chloralose
also seems to be common. Anticoagulants seem to pose the greatest risk
of secondary poisoning, although an antidote is available. Metal
phosphides would be safer if the cat only ate the meat from the rat but
didn't touch the digestive system. I don't know whether this is usual
though. The wikipedia article cites a source that says calciferols are
inherently less toxic to cats, but dogs are still affected. I don't know
if dogs eat rats, since my knowledge of animal predation comes mostly
from cartoons.

Joe

"Joe Kelleher"
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Metal phosphides would be safer if the cat only ate the meat from the rat
but didn't touch the digestive system. I don't know whether this is usual
though.

Dogs for certain go straight for the arse hole of any caught prey.
1 Whippey and at least 50 squirrels can't be wrong.

--
Mike W

On 12 Apr, 10:59, "Kev" wrote:

I wonder if anybody know anything about rat poison. I have an overseas
development and they get forest rats coming out of the neighbouring
forest and chewing everything in the bungalows and they put down
poison to kill the rats.
Unfortunately the cat eat a dead or dieing rat and died.
Are there any poisons that become inactive once digested by the host.
I am not sure whether cage traps would be available in the country
concerned since they are not so animal friendly and would just put
down poison and to hell with it.
I could take some out from the UK but I would need quite a few.
I can't take the risk of getting another cat so want to find a safer
alternative.

Kevin

I dont know of any safe poison, I think the solution is trapment
rather than poison. Breakback traps kill quickly, a lot faster than
poison. They can be placed inside boxes with small entry holes to keep
bigger animals out.

Rentokil use poison, so I'm not sure if they'd be any use.

The best option though is to locate and block all entry holes.
Anything pencil size or bigger can allow rodents in.

Antidotes are only given once you know the animal's ill and have
worked out why, so are far from a safe solution.


NT

"Kev" wrote in message
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I wonder if anybody know anything about rat poison. I have an overseas
development and they get forest rats coming out of the neighbouring
forest and chewing everything in the bungalows and they put down
poison to kill the rats.
Unfortunately the cat eat a dead or dieing rat and died.
Are there any poisons that become inactive once digested by the host.
I am not sure whether cage traps would be available in the country
concerned since they are not so animal friendly and would just put
down poison and to hell with it.
I could take some out from the UK but I would need quite a few.
I can't take the risk of getting another cat so want to find a safer
alternative.

I have a very similar problem and used a squirrel trap to catch and
terminate (with a lump of wood) each rat caught.
Next door just shoots the buggers !

I use one of these against mice, never had a rat problem so can't
comment, but on mice it is first class:

http://www.ratzapper.com/

R wrote in message few.
I can't take the risk of getting another cat so want to find a safer
alternative.

I have a very similar problem and used a squirrel trap to catch and
terminate (with a lump of wood) each rat caught.
Next door just shoots the buggers !

Yep we seem to have an epidemic of the buggers this time of the year
But they do make good target practice
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=45043za




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On Apr 12, 5:49 pm, wrote:
On 12 Apr, 10:59, "Kev" wrote:

I wonder if anybody know anything about rat poison. I have an overseas
development and they get forest rats coming out of the neighbouring
forest and chewing everything in the bungalows and they put down
poison to kill the rats.
Unfortunately the cat eat a dead or dieing rat and died.
Are there any poisons that become inactive once digested by the host.
I am not sure whether cage traps would be available in the country
concerned since they are not so animal friendly and would just put
down poison and to hell with it.
I could take some out from the UK but I would need quite a few.
I can't take the risk of getting another cat so want to find a safer
alternative.

Kevin

I dont know of any safe poison, I think the solution is trapment
rather than poison. Breakback traps kill quickly, a lot faster than
poison. They can be placed inside boxes with small entry holes to keep
bigger animals out.

Rentokil use poison, so I'm not sure if they'd be any use.

The best option though is to locate and block all entry holes.
Anything pencil size or bigger can allow rodents in.

Antidotes are only given once you know the animal's ill and have
worked out why, so are far from a safe solution.

NT

I posted on a site in the country concerned and I have found that
humane traps are available, although the rat may not be humanely
treated. At least I wont need to put poison down now.

Kevin