Hi
I'm after a frost free freestanding freezer about 250L net capacity.
Liebherr seems to fit the bill. I can't find any proper reviews but did
find 2 on one site which both expressed extreme disappointment with them.
Does anyone have any experience with them? Or can anyone recommend any
other good freezers? (or anyone who reads German who can find some German
reviews?)
Thanks
Doug
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On 2007-04-08 17:40:42 +0100, Doug Weller
said:

Hi
I'm after a frost free freestanding freezer about 250L net capacity.
Liebherr seems to fit the bill. I can't find any proper reviews but did
find 2 on one site which both expressed extreme disappointment with them.
Does anyone have any experience with them? Or can anyone recommend any
other good freezers? (or anyone who reads German who can find some German
reviews?)
Thanks
Doug

Yes. I have one and it's excellent. If it weren't, it would have
been returned and replaced with something else.

It's well made, virtually silent and the automatic defrost works
properly. There are a good set of solid pull out baskets and a shield
that can be inserted part way down if you want to reduce the freezing
capacity

Doug Weller wrote:
Hi
I'm after a frost free freestanding freezer about 250L net capacity.
Liebherr seems to fit the bill. I can't find any proper reviews but did
find 2 on one site which both expressed extreme disappointment with them.
Does anyone have any experience with them? Or can anyone recommend any
other good freezers? (or anyone who reads German who can find some German
reviews?)
Thanks
Doug
I have their built in fridge and its excellent bar one thing..they used
a vac formed skin for the door inside, and the moulded shelve end that
clips into it and this can't take the pounding of gallon milk bottles
being slammed into it daily. To ve fair they did replace te shelves FOC,
but now the door skin has ripped.

To be fair, no other fridge I have had is better, The Liebherr is the
best of a bad lot IMHO.

I only expect a fridge or freezer to keep things cold as advertised and
not breakdown under daily wear and tear. Most won't pass that test. The
Liebherr is better than most IMHO.

For conventional stuff I have found LEC to be cheap and adequate.

On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 17:40:42 +0100, Doug Weller
wrote:

Hi
I'm after a frost free freestanding freezer about 250L net capacity.
Liebherr seems to fit the bill. I can't find any proper reviews but did
find 2 on one site which both expressed extreme disappointment with them.
Does anyone have any experience with them? Or can anyone recommend any
other good freezers? (or anyone who reads German who can find some German
reviews?)
Thanks
Doug

We have had a Liebherr for several years now. Well built, VERY quiet
in operation - the main reason for which we purchased. I'm not sure
whether or not it is 'frost free'. I think not - it certainly
requires a manual defrosting every 15 months or so. No problems with
it. Having said that the old comet own label (Proline) we had
previously for about 16 years worked perfectly throughout (albeit a
little noisily) and only had to have its handle refitted in a slightly
different position every 4 years when it managed to break off again!



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On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 17:40:42 +0100, Doug Weller
wrote:

Hi
I'm after a frost free freestanding freezer about 250L net capacity.
Liebherr seems to fit the bill. I can't find any proper reviews but did
find 2 on one site which both expressed extreme disappointment with them.
Does anyone have any experience with them? Or can anyone recommend any
other good freezers? (or anyone who reads German who can find some German
reviews?)
Thanks
Doug

We have had a Liebherr for several years now. Well built, VERY quiet
in operation - the main reason for which we purchased. I'm not sure
whether or not it is 'frost free'. I think not - it certainly
requires a manual defrosting every 15 months or so. No problems with
it. Having said that the old comet own label (Proline) we had
previously for about 16 years worked perfectly throughout (albeit a
little noisily) and only had to have its handle refitted in a slightly
different position every 4 years when it managed to break off again!



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Ian

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Doug Weller wrote:
Hi
I'm after a frost free freestanding freezer about 250L net capacity.
Liebherr seems to fit the bill. I can't find any proper reviews but did
find 2 on one site which both expressed extreme disappointment with them.
Does anyone have any experience with them? Or can anyone recommend any
other good freezers? (or anyone who reads German who can find some German
reviews?)
Thanks
Doug
I have their built in fridge and its excellent bar one thing..they used a
vac formed skin for the door inside, and the moulded shelve end that clips
into it and this can't take the pounding of gallon milk bottles being
slammed into it daily. To ve fair they did replace te shelves FOC, but now
the door skin has ripped.


Good point here - most fridges work well - but the robustness of the
internal fittings are important. Likewise with dishwashers. The
functionality of such appliances is usually good - but the design and
strength of the interiors are another matter.

On 9 Apr, 17:13, Ian wrote:
On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 17:40:42 +0100, Doug Weller

wrote:
Hi
I'm after a frost free freestanding freezer about 250L net capacity.
Liebherr seems to fit the bill. I can't find any proper reviews but did
find 2 on one site which both expressed extreme disappointment with them.
Does anyone have any experience with them? Or can anyone recommend any
other good freezers? (or anyone who reads German who can find some German
reviews?)
Thanks
Doug

I seem to remember reading somewhere that Liebherr make fridges for
Miele (think Miele only make their own washing machines and
dishwashers), so that must go in their favour?

Cheers

Steve

On 10 Apr 2007 04:19:49 -0700, wrote:

I seem to remember reading somewhere that Liebherr make fridges for
Miele (think Miele only make their own washing machines and
dishwashers), so that must go in their favour?

Liebherr make cranes too.

HTH -

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On 2007-04-10 13:26:11 +0100, Owain said:

Frank Erskine wrote:
oldskoolskater wrote:
I seem to remember reading somewhere that Liebherr make fridges for
Miele (think Miele only make their own washing machines and
dishwashers), so that must go in their favour?
Liebherr make cranes too.

That's handy for when you need to move a Miele washing machine.

Owain

You'd need the large model. These things are built like the
proverbial brick sh*thouse (the WMC).

On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 19:42:53 +0100, Andy Hall wrote:

It's well made, virtually silent and the automatic defrost works
properly.

Are you saying that from experience or do you know if they have a
feedback system to ensure that they defrost until ice on the heat
exchanger has been cleared? Having just spent 2 hours dismantling and
defrosting my Hotpoint FF[1] which had iced up solid[2] I find it has no
evident mechanism for detecting ice build up, so presumably the defrost
cycle runs open-loop, and in this case goes on building up ice until it
stops working.

[1] posts passim - google
[2] for the second time since we got it last September: the first time we
got the engineer who apparently waved a hairdryer into it somewhere (I
don't know whe SWMBO was there at the time but didn't pay much
attention to what he was doing

On 2007-04-13 02:24:54 +0100, John Stumbles said:

On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 19:42:53 +0100, Andy Hall wrote:

It's well made, virtually silent and the automatic defrost works
properly.

Are you saying that from experience or do you know if they have a
feedback system to ensure that they defrost until ice on the heat
exchanger has been cleared? Having just spent 2 hours dismantling and
defrosting my Hotpoint FF[1] which had iced up solid[2] I find it has no
evident mechanism for detecting ice build up, so presumably the defrost
cycle runs open-loop, and in this case goes on building up ice until it
stops working.

[1] posts passim - google
[2] for the second time since we got it last September: the first time we
got the engineer who apparently waved a hairdryer into it somewhere (I
don't know whe SWMBO was there at the time but didn't pay much
attention to what he was doing

Well... all I can say is that it hasn't been turned off since new - 2
years ago. There isn't any substantial frosting - perhaps a couple
of mm on a surface near the top where the evaporator is together with a
fan.

Whether it's timed in some way or has a detection arrangement, I'm not sure.

On 2007-04-13 02:24:54 +0100, John Stumbles said:

On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 19:42:53 +0100, Andy Hall wrote:

It's well made, virtually silent and the automatic defrost works
properly.

Are you saying that from experience or do you know if they have a
feedback system to ensure that they defrost until ice on the heat
exchanger has been cleared? Having just spent 2 hours dismantling and
defrosting my Hotpoint FF[1] which had iced up solid[2] I find it has no
evident mechanism for detecting ice build up, so presumably the defrost
cycle runs open-loop, and in this case goes on building up ice until it
stops working.

[1] posts passim - google
[2] for the second time since we got it last September: the first time we
got the engineer who apparently waved a hairdryer into it somewhere (I
don't know whe SWMBO was there at the time but didn't pay much
attention to what he was doing

Well... all I can say is that it hasn't been turned off since new - 2
years ago. There isn't any substantial frosting - perhaps a couple
of mm on a surface near the top where the evaporator is together with a
fan.

Whether it's timed in some way or has a detection arrangement, I'm not sure.