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A very small bedroom (2M x 2.5M approx) is being redecorated. We are also
replacing the old and battered skirting boards. Someone suggested we 'seal' these boards. (two of the walls are external facing). I have only seen sealant in big 5 Litre containers (we live in north london). Since we dont need all that amount, could they be sealed on the wall facing sides with some Santex exernal wall paint we already have? Or would this not be a good idea? The walls where the skirting boards go on is a very rough. So should I forget this 'no more nails' adhesive type stuff and buy some of the original 'clout' type nails that held the boards up; or is there a better way? thanks for any advice. |
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JWBH wrote:
A very small bedroom (2M x 2.5M approx) is being redecorated. We are also replacing the old and battered skirting boards. Someone suggested we 'seal' these boards. (two of the walls are external facing). I have only seen sealant in big 5 Litre containers (we live in north london). Since we dont need all that amount, could they be sealed on the wall facing sides with some Santex exernal wall paint we already have? Or would this not be a good idea? No point in trying to seal them, they're only decorative. If you have a damp problem, best to sort that out first The walls where the skirting boards go on is a very rough. So should I forget this 'no more nails' adhesive type stuff and buy some of the original 'clout' type nails that held the boards up; or is there a better way? thanks for any advice. Adhesive every time, especially on a rough surface. Quicker, neater, but use it like it's going out of fashion for a good bond. |
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"JWBH" wrote in message
... A very small bedroom (2M x 2.5M approx) is being redecorated. We are also replacing the old and battered skirting boards. Someone suggested we 'seal' these boards. (two of the walls are external facing). I have only seen sealant in big 5 Litre containers (we live in north london). Since we dont need all that amount, could they be sealed on the wall facing sides with some Santex exernal wall paint we already have? Or would this not be a good idea? The walls where the skirting boards go on is a very rough. So should I forget this 'no more nails' adhesive type stuff and buy some of the original 'clout' type nails that held the boards up; or is there a better way? thanks for any advice. Aren't clout nails the ones with the big heads? If so, that would be the last thing I'd want on my skirting. Using "No more nails" on mine was impossible due to the bend / unevenness of my walls so I just used oval nails and once varnished they couldn't be seen. In my last house I just used panel pins to secure them. In fact now I think about it, I haven't used any kind of fix on the skirting boards upstairs, they have just been cut that tight they don't move as they are wedged together. Who told you to seal the boards? Did they not mean seal the boards as in run some sealant / filler between the boards and wall once fitted? Steven. |
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
JWBH wrote: The walls where the skirting boards go on is a very rough. So should I forget this 'no more nails' adhesive type stuff and buy some of the original 'clout' type nails that held the boards up; or is there a better way? thanks for any advice. Use Polyfilla to fill any big holes behind the skirting, and make the suface as smooth as you can without too much effort. Then use Gripfill to stick the skirting boards on. When they are firmly stuck, run a thin bead of decorators caulk along the top to fill any remaining small gaps. -- Cheers, Roger ______ Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks. PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP! |
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Stuart Noble wrote:
JWBH wrote: The walls where the skirting boards go on is a very rough. So should I forget this 'no more nails' adhesive type stuff and buy some of the original 'clout' type nails that held the boards up; or is there a better way? thanks for any advice. Adhesive every time, especially on a rough surface. Quicker, neater, but use it like it's going out of fashion for a good bond. Really? That sounds like a recipe for screws and wallplugs to me...# David |
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Lobster wrote:
Stuart Noble wrote: JWBH wrote: The walls where the skirting boards go on is a very rough. So should I forget this 'no more nails' adhesive type stuff and buy some of the original 'clout' type nails that held the boards up; or is there a better way? thanks for any advice. Adhesive every time, especially on a rough surface. Quicker, neater, but use it like it's going out of fashion for a good bond. Really? That sounds like a recipe for screws and wallplugs to me...# David A thick bead top and bottom so it squirts out at the edges. Like tile adhesive, it sticks initially by suction |
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In article ,
Roger Mills wrote: Use Polyfilla to fill any big holes behind the skirting, and make the suface as smooth as you can without too much effort. Polyfilla is expensive and not suitable for large holes because of the way it dries. One coat patching plaster is the best and most economical way for the amateur plasterer. -- *I will always cherish the initial misconceptions I had about you Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Roger Mills wrote: Use Polyfilla to fill any big holes behind the skirting, and make the suface as smooth as you can without too much effort. Polyfilla is expensive and not suitable for large holes because of the way it dries. One coat patching plaster is the best and most economical way for the amateur plasterer. Maybe we're differing on our definition of 'large'. I had in mind the sort of hole you get when (say) a 2" circle of plaster comes away with a nail - rather than *huge* areas. Pollyfilla - or a generic eqivalent from a shed - is fine for this, and the OP is probably more likely to have a packet of this lying around. -- Cheers, Roger ______ Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks. PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP! |
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:21:02 GMT, Lobster
wrote: Stuart Noble wrote: JWBH wrote: The walls where the skirting boards go on is a very rough. So should I forget this 'no more nails' adhesive type stuff and buy some of the original 'clout' type nails that held the boards up; or is there a better way? thanks for any advice. Adhesive every time, especially on a rough surface. Quicker, neater, but use it like it's going out of fashion for a good bond. Really? That sounds like a recipe for screws and wallplugs to me...# This is what I do. If you glue or nail they will be harder to remove again. Mark |
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Roger Mills wrote:
In an earlier contribution to this discussion, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Roger Mills wrote: Use Polyfilla to fill any big holes behind the skirting, and make the suface as smooth as you can without too much effort. Polyfilla is expensive and not suitable for large holes because of the way it dries. One coat patching plaster is the best and most economical way for the amateur plasterer. Maybe we're differing on our definition of 'large'. I had in mind the sort of hole you get when (say) a 2" circle of plaster comes away with a nail - rather than *huge* areas. Pollyfilla - or a generic eqivalent from a shed - is fine for this, and the OP is probably more likely to have a packet of this lying around. I have yet to find anything better than filler. I've tried patching plaster, Artex, and drywall joint filler because they're available in bulk, but they don't quite have the non-shrink qualities of the Polyfilla type products. A compromise is to fill the bulk of the space with whatever plaster you have lying around and finish off with filler |
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In article ,
Roger Mills wrote: Polyfilla is expensive and not suitable for large holes because of the way it dries. One coat patching plaster is the best and most economical way for the amateur plasterer. Maybe we're differing on our definition of 'large'. I had in mind the sort of hole you get when (say) a 2" circle of plaster comes away with a nail - rather than *huge* areas. Pollyfilla - or a generic eqivalent from a shed - is fine for this, and the OP is probably more likely to have a packet of this lying around. But even a 2" circle of normal depth plaster will take for ever to dry if filled with Pollyfilla in one go. -- *If I throw a stick, will you leave? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Stuart Noble wrote: I have yet to find anything better than filler. I've tried patching plaster, Artex, and drywall joint filler because they're available in bulk, but they don't quite have the non-shrink qualities of the Polyfilla type products. A compromise is to fill the bulk of the space with whatever plaster you have lying around and finish off with filler If patching plaster shrunk it wouldn't be any use for making good. If it is shrinking you're doing something wrong. -- *A day without sunshine is like... night.* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Stuart Noble wrote: I have yet to find anything better than filler. I've tried patching plaster, Artex, and drywall joint filler because they're available in bulk, but they don't quite have the non-shrink qualities of the Polyfilla type products. A compromise is to fill the bulk of the space with whatever plaster you have lying around and finish off with filler If patching plaster shrunk it wouldn't be any use for making good. If it is shrinking you're doing something wrong. Aye aye captain. |
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Thanks to all. We went for putting on some patching plaster. I rang the local B & Q and they said their gripfil costs £12.99, which seems a lot. Now that the surface we are sticking to is quite good, is there a reasonably priced good alternative to gripfill to stick the skirting boards on with please? thanks |
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JWBH wrote:
Thanks to all. We went for putting on some patching plaster. I rang the local B & Q and they said their gripfil costs £12.99, which seems a lot. Now that the surface we are sticking to is quite good, is there a reasonably priced good alternative to gripfill to stick the skirting boards on with please? thanks If you want Gripfill by another name you can get the same product as a Screwfix own brand. If you want a better substitute at a lower price then hava a look at EvoStick Nail and Seal, sold at B&Q. |
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On Mar 28, 12:42 pm, "JWBH" wrote:
Thanks to all. We went for putting on some patching plaster. I rang the local B & Q and they said their gripfil costs £12.99, which seems a lot. Now that the surface we are sticking to is quite good, is there a reasonably priced good alternative to gripfill to stick the skirting boards on with please? thanks Where are you based? You can pick Gripfill up from Screwfix or TLC or any other decent builders merchant. £12.99 is taking the **** - it's possible they were confused as to what you were asking for? http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Ind...ves/index.html Regards, Steve |
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... Thanks to all. We went for putting on some patching plaster. I rang the local B & Q and they said their gripfil costs £12.99, which seems a lot. Now that the surface we are sticking to is quite good, is there a reasonably priced good alternative to gripfill to stick the skirting boards on with please? thanks Gripfill £1.89 from screwfix if you have a trade counter handy. http://www.screwfix.com/search.do;js...earch=gripfill or "I Can't Believe It's Not Nails " for £1.29 http://www.screwfix.com/search.do?ac...c3%9f&ts=85248 I like this one "Sticks like sh*t" if only for its name!! http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...85501&id=22070 |
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JWBH wrote:
Thanks to all. We went for putting on some patching plaster. I rang the local B & Q and they said their gripfil costs £12.99, which seems a lot. Sounds like a pack of 4 or 6! Try http://www.screwfix.com/search.do;js...pfil&x=14&y=8# Or any builders merchant Now that the surface we are sticking to is quite good, is there a reasonably priced good alternative to gripfill to stick the skirting boards on with please? thanks |
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"Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... JWBH wrote: Thanks to all. We went for putting on some patching plaster. I rang the local B & Q and they said their gripfil costs £12.99, which seems a lot. Sounds like a pack of 4 or 6! Try http://www.screwfix.com/search.do;js...pfil&x=14&y=8# Or any builders merchant Now that the surface we are sticking to is quite good, is there a reasonably priced good alternative to gripfill to stick the skirting boards on with please? thanks found gripfil at a 'buildbase' not far from me for £2.20 odd. thanks to all. |
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My carpenter friend swears by gripfil but he always uses countersunk
screws in skirting aswell. When I work with him I sand the holes removing any stray bits of wood and fill with a lightweight filler. This will not shrink and can be painted over the same day. I always leave it overnight though. prime/undercoat is essential before the final coat. On 28 Mar, 20:43, "JWBH" wrote: "Stuart Noble" wrote in message ... JWBH wrote: Thanks to all. We went for putting on some patching plaster. I rang the local B & Q and they said their gripfil costs £12.99, which seems a lot. Sounds like a pack of 4 or 6! Try http://www.screwfix.com/search.do;js...LLYCSTHZOCFGA?.... Or any builders merchant Now that the surface we are sticking to is quite good, is there a reasonably priced good alternative to gripfill to stick the skirting boards on with please? thanks found gripfil at a 'buildbase' not far from me for £2.20 odd. thanks to all. |
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