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Novice needs help with MDF boards
Hi,
I am totally new to woodworking and I am thinking of building an inexpensive wall cabinet out of cheap MDF boards. My questions a 1. Is MDF boards strong enough to be used in a wall cabinet ? Can it even hold it's own weight ? Or should I add some real lumbar as reinforcements ? 2. What is a easy way to join boards at right angle ? Can I simply use screws / gule and wood filler to patch the hole ? 3. When you paint the boards, do you need to use a primer first ? Thanks in advance for your advise. JW |
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JW wrote: Hi,
I am totally new to woodworking and I am thinking of building an inexpensive wall cabinet out of cheap MDF boards. My questions a 1. Is MDF boards strong enough to be used in a wall cabinet ? Can it even hold it's own weight ? Or should I add some real lumbar as reinforcements ? 2. What is a easy way to join boards at right angle ? Can I simply use screws / gule and wood filler to patch the hole ? 3. When you paint the boards, do you need to use a primer first ? Thanks in advance for your advise. JW Hi, JW. Check out FINE WOODWORKING's recent issue(June 04 #170) for joining MDF. Plus, there're some good tips on finishing the stuff. Tom Work at your leisure! |
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On 23 Jun 2004 10:07:07 -0700, JW wrote:
Hi, I am totally new to woodworking and I am thinking of building an inexpensive wall cabinet out of cheap MDF boards. My questions a 1. Is MDF boards strong enough to be used in a wall cabinet ? Can it even hold it's own weight ? Or should I add some real lumbar as reinforcements ? MDF is reasonably strong if it's reasonably well supported. What are you planning on holding up? Try loading a length with the kind of loads you anticipate. Is the deflection acceptable? If not, add a support to the middle. 2. What is a easy way to join boards at right angle ? Can I simply use screws / gule and wood filler to patch the hole ? Ty and Wynn use glue and a brad nailer, iirc. I think if they had a more reasonable timeframe, glue would be sufficient with a decent clamp time. I would try to arrange things so that all my load-bearing was done under compression, rather than tension. 3. When you paint the boards, do you need to use a primer first ? In general, primer is MUCH cheaper than paint, so that's a resounding YES. I'd use oil-based primer, but check the paint manufacturer's recommendations for their product. Makers of quality paint want you to feel happy with their products, so they tend towards conservative recommendations, application-wise. |
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Novice needs help with MDF boards
"JW" wrote in message
om... Hi, I am totally new to woodworking and I am thinking of building an inexpensive wall cabinet out of cheap MDF boards. My questions a 1. Is MDF boards strong enough to be used in a wall cabinet ? Can it even hold it's own weight ? Or should I add some real lumbar as reinforcements ? 2. What is a easy way to join boards at right angle ? Can I simply use screws / gule and wood filler to patch the hole ? 3. When you paint the boards, do you need to use a primer first ? Thanks in advance for your advise. JW MDF is strong enough for a wall cabinet, but it wouldn't be my first choice. I'm working on some face frame shop cabinets right now made from 1/2" meranti. 1/2" meranti runs about $22.50 per 4x8 sheet here and 1/2" MDF (regular weight) gets $15. For me, I'm able to get 5 18x30x12 wall cabinets out of two sheets of ply, so the difference in material cost is not that great. Unless you make the lengthwise cut 1/2" too narrow and have to go back and get another piece. DAMHIKT. With that said, here is the gist of a paragraph on the subject from "Building Your Own Kitchen Cabinetry", by John Paquay. MDF is stable, uniform, and very smooth-surfaced. It's inexpensive, paints well, and makes strong glue joints. The downside is that MDF can be damaged easily, particularly at corners and edges. todd |
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om I am totally new to woodworking and I am thinking of building an inexpensive wall cabinet out of cheap MDF boards. Say no more; find your way over to uk.d-i-y. Anal retention is not rquired there. Also the chat is actual hands on stuff not stuff on hands. My questions a 1. Is MDF boards strong enough to be used in a wall cabinet? Can it even hold it's own weight? Or should I add some real lumber as reinforcement? Any shelf needs support at 3 foot intervals for a section 1" thick. MDF has been used for a long time now. It is common on stair risers for example and the beloved media of house make-over programmes on the TV over here 2. What is a easy way to join boards at right angles? Can I simply use screws, glue and wood filler to patch the hole? Space some strips on each side piece to set the shelves on. Put them tight to the back and stop them short of the front and cut the front edges of them at an angle. MDF has to be pre-drilled for screws and a countersunk bit used to bury the head of the screws. Over here in the UK the trade named filler is Pollyfilla. Any wood filler will do. Follow the instructionson the packet. 3. When you paint the boards, do you need to use a primer first ? Yes. Acrylic then undercoat then gloss if that is what you want for a finish. It will look OK with 2 or 3 coats of acrylic. -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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Thanks to everyone who have responded to my questions. You guys are very helpful.
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JW wrote:
Hi, I am totally new to woodworking and I am thinking of building an inexpensive wall cabinet out of cheap MDF boards. My questions a 1. Is MDF boards strong enough to be used in a wall cabinet ? Can it even hold it's own weight ? Or should I add some real lumbar as reinforcements ? If your concerned about shelving, the maximum length for droop-free shelves is about 32". If you add a 1"x2" wood banding to the front, that will extend to about 40". This per "Trim Carpentry and Built-Ins" by Clayton DeKorne. 2. What is a easy way to join boards at right angle ? Can I simply use screws / gule and wood filler to patch the hole ? If you're making shelving/carcasses, you can dado the vertical pieces and then glue and screw the pieces together. 3. When you paint the boards, do you need to use a primer first ? Yes, but if you've milled any of the MDF (e.g. edged it with a router) *don't* use a latex primer. You'll raise the fiber something fierce and spend hours sanding it down. On unmilled, flat surfaces, any primer should work fine. I learned this the hard way with some raised panel wainscoting I made from MDF. Spent 3 days sanding down the routed edges of the panels, rails and stiles. Thanks in advance for your advise. JW As an aside, veneered MDF (e.g cherry, maple, etc.) is becoming increasingly popular as material for cabinets and shelving, so it must be okay. ~Mark. |
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