Hi guy's

Our drain runs from our garden to next door and away. It appears that the
section on their ground has collapsed or at least particially blocked where
the ground has dropped. Thus in less than 2 weeks I'm paddleless!

However as it's 'my' waste but the drain is on their land who's
responsible??

Cheers

Richard

In article ,
r.bartlett wrote:
Hi guy's

Our drain runs from our garden to next door and away. It appears that
the section on their ground has collapsed or at least particially
blocked where the ground has dropped. Thus in less than 2 weeks I'm
paddleless!

However as it's 'my' waste but the drain is on their land who's
responsible??

Joint drains - even on private property - may well be the responsibility
of the water authority. IIRC, it depends on the age of the property.

--
*Consciousness: That annoying time between naps.

Dave Plowman London SW
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On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 10:11:02 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
r.bartlett wrote:
Hi guy's

Our drain runs from our garden to next door and away. It appears that
the section on their ground has collapsed or at least particially
blocked where the ground has dropped. Thus in less than 2 weeks I'm
paddleless!

However as it's 'my' waste but the drain is on their land who's
responsible??

Joint drains - even on private property - may well be the responsibility
of the water authority. IIRC, it depends on the age of the property.

When our shared drain became blocked, which runs down behind 18 properties
before crossing the road to join the main drain, the site of the blockage, the
work was administered by the Council because no one wanted to assume
responsibility. They added 33% to the bill, then an 18th was billed to each
household. FWIW the estate was constructed in the 50's

Andy

Our drain runs from our garden to next door and away. It appears that the
section on their ground has collapsed or at least particially blocked where
the ground has dropped. Thus in less than 2 weeks I'm paddleless!
However as it's 'my' waste but the drain is on their land who's
responsible??

ISTR something about if its pre 1936 its down either the water board or
the council

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from "r.bartlett" contains these words:

Our drain runs from our garden to next door and away. It appears that the
section on their ground has collapsed or at least particially blocked where
the ground has dropped. Thus in less than 2 weeks I'm paddleless!

However as it's 'my' waste but the drain is on their land who's
responsible??

Try a google. This sort of problem has been aired in the past.

FWIW I seem to remember that for shared drains to be public they must
have been laid before some date in the 1930s, perhaps 1936 and that, if
it is a private drain, all connected to it have a joint responsibility.
Memory however is sometimes faulty.

Some years ago my father was in the same situation but on the opposite
side of the fence. He shared the cost of repair with his neighbour even
though the blockage was upstream of his connection. I would know whether
the situation would be different had he not had a connection to the
drain.

--
Roger Chapman

Our drain runs from our garden to next door and away. It appears that
the section on their ground has collapsed or at least particially
blocked where the ground has dropped. Thus in less than 2 weeks I'm
paddleless!
However as it's 'my' waste but the drain is on their land who's
responsible??

The first thing to do is see what your deeds or Land Registry entry says.
You should also talk to your neighbour.

Peter Crosland

In article ,
r.bartlett wrote:

Our drain runs from our garden to next door and away. It appears
that the section on their ground has collapsed or at least
particially blocked where the ground has dropped. Thus in less
than 2 weeks I'm paddleless!

However as it's 'my' waste but the drain is on their land who's
responsible??

At our house in Cheltenham it was in the deeds
that the eight houses sharing the sewer that ran
along the back gardens would always share the
costs of maintaining that sewer.

In any event why not just share the labour or the
cost of getting someone in to solve the problem.

--
Tony Williams.

"r.bartlett" wrote in message
...
Hi guy's

Our drain runs from our garden to next door and away. It appears that the
section on their ground has collapsed or at least particially blocked
where
the ground has dropped. Thus in less than 2 weeks I'm paddleless!

However as it's 'my' waste but the drain is on their land who's
responsible??

Cheers

Richard

Non shared drains are always the responsibility of the homeowner
to the point at which they meet the public sewer. Shared drains, which are
properly called private sewers, are the complex bit.

Shared drains built prior to the implementation of the Public Health Act on
1st October 1937 are the responsibility of the local water company. Nothing
whatsoever to do with the local council. Each house is still solely
responsible for the part of its own drain prior to it joining someone else's
drain and becoming a private sewer.


Shared drains built post 1st October 1937 are the joint responsibility of
the various homeowners unless the water company has 'adopted' them. It
doesn't matter where in the shared system the blockage occurs. Everyone
connected pays their share. Again each house is solely responsible for the
part of its own drain prior to it joining the private sewer.
--
Dave Baker
Puma Race Engines
www.pumaracing.co.uk
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On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 13:59:48 -0000, "Dave Baker" wrote:


Shared drains built prior to the implementation of the Public Health Act on
1st October 1937 are the responsibility of the local water company. Nothing
whatsoever to do with the local council.

If however an amicable solution can't be agreed, then it does become Council
business from the Public Health perspective.

Andy

r.bartlett wrote:
Hi guy's

Our drain runs from our garden to next door and away. It appears that the
section on their ground has collapsed or at least particially blocked where
the ground has dropped. Thus in less than 2 weeks I'm paddleless!

However as it's 'my' waste but the drain is on their land who's
responsible??

Cheers

Richard

My dad had a similar problem when the sewer from his house collapsed
under his neighbours drive. He managed to get his household insurance
company to pay for the repair which had to be carried out from the
manhole cover on his property because the neighbour wouldn't agree to
having his paver brick driveway dug up. The insurance company paid for
some sort of reamer to be put through the sewer and an inflatable
sleeve was inserted and inflated in the sewer. The bill was huge but
the insurance company paid up without any problem amazingly enough.