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Try not to make this too complicated...
The door fell of my washing machine and I need to fix it. It's a rental, so chucking it and buying a new one is not an option. (and it's the fitted type as well). The door consist of two plastic parts forming the inside and the outside of the door, with the glass and the fixings squashed in between. Alignment on the hinge relys upon these two parts being fixed together tightly. A replacement door is only available as a full set of parts costing over 100 quid! (with delivery) It fell off, because two of the pillars that the screws fit into have broken off and it is no longer secure. So, does anyone have any ideas how I form something that the screws can screw into, to hold the door together properly again? I don't think that glueing the pillars back on with super glue is going to be strong enough, but perhaps it is? TIA tim |
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The door fell of my washing machine and I need to fix it. It's a
rental, so chucking it and buying a new one is not an option. (and it's the fitted type as well). Wouldn`t that be down the landlord to sort out then, rather than you ? |
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On 2006-11-20 22:42:12 +0000, "tim\(yet another new home\)"
said: Try not to make this too complicated... The door fell of my washing machine and I need to fix it. It's a rental, so chucking it and buying a new one is not an option. (and it's the fitted type as well). The door consist of two plastic parts forming the inside and the outside of the door, with the glass and the fixings squashed in between. Alignment on the hinge relys upon these two parts being fixed together tightly. A replacement door is only available as a full set of parts costing over 100 quid! (with delivery) It fell off, because two of the pillars that the screws fit into have broken off and it is no longer secure. So, does anyone have any ideas how I form something that the screws can screw into, to hold the door together properly again? I don't think that glueing the pillars back on with super glue is going to be strong enough, but perhaps it is? TIA tim Surely it's the landlord's issue to get it fixed? |
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Colin Wilson wrote:
The door fell of my washing machine and I need to fix it. It's a rental, so chucking it and buying a new one is not an option. (and it's the fitted type as well). Wouldn`t that be down the landlord to sort out then, rather than you ? I think he means the washing machine's rented, although ICBW |
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Andy Hall wrote:
On 2006-11-20 22:42:12 +0000, "tim\(yet another new home\)" said: Try not to make this too complicated... The door fell of my washing machine and I need to fix it. It's a rental, so chucking it and buying a new one is not an option. (and it's the fitted type as well). The door consist of two plastic parts forming the inside and the outside of the door, with the glass and the fixings squashed in between. Alignment on the hinge relys upon these two parts being fixed together tightly. A replacement door is only available as a full set of parts costing over 100 quid! (with delivery) It fell off, because two of the pillars that the screws fit into have broken off and it is no longer secure. So, does anyone have any ideas how I form something that the screws can screw into, to hold the door together properly again? I don't think that glueing the pillars back on with super glue is going to be strong enough, but perhaps it is? TIA tim Surely it's the landlord's issue to get it fixed? Why is it? - if you rent a house from the council, they don't come and redecorate every time you fancy a colour change...if he's rented the house with fixtures and fittings, it's up to him to pay for the upkeep of those fittings, he can't smash all the doors (a regular occurence in the rented sector) and ring the landlord to come out and replace them, unless he wan't evicting sharpish. |
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 22:42:12 -0000, "tim\(yet another new home\)"
wrote: Try not to make this too complicated... The door fell of my washing machine and I need to fix it. It's a rental, so chucking it and buying a new one is not an option. (and it's the fitted type as well). The door consist of two plastic parts forming the inside and the outside of the door, with the glass and the fixings squashed in between. Alignment on the hinge relys upon these two parts being fixed together tightly. A replacement door is only available as a full set of parts costing over 100 quid! (with delivery) It fell off, because two of the pillars that the screws fit into have broken off and it is no longer secure. So, does anyone have any ideas how I form something that the screws can screw into, to hold the door together properly again? I don't think that glueing the pillars back on with super glue is going to be strong enough, but perhaps it is? I doubt it will be - washing machine doors take a lot of punishment. Any chance of drilling through one or both of the plastic covers and using a neat bolt? Something with a round head wouldn't be too intrusive, a small coach-bolt perhaps. In the meantime, keep your eye open at your local tip - if you spot a machine with the same door it'll probably cost you no more than a fiver. Regards, -- Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk |
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tim(yet another new home) wrote:
Try not to make this too complicated... The door fell of my washing machine and I need to fix it. It's a rental, so chucking it and buying a new one is not an option. (and it's the fitted type as well). Do you mean its a rented home or a rented machine? I have repaired stuff on washing machines & installed new ones in lots of rented properties - are you sure it's not down to the landlord? -- Dave The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
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On 2006-11-20 23:14:31 +0000, "Phil L" said:
Andy Hall wrote: On 2006-11-20 22:42:12 +0000, "tim\(yet another new home\)" said: Try not to make this too complicated... The door fell of my washing machine and I need to fix it. It's a rental, so chucking it and buying a new one is not an option. (and it's the fitted type as well). The door consist of two plastic parts forming the inside and the outside of the door, with the glass and the fixings squashed in between. Alignment on the hinge relys upon these two parts being fixed together tightly. A replacement door is only available as a full set of parts costing over 100 quid! (with delivery) It fell off, because two of the pillars that the screws fit into have broken off and it is no longer secure. So, does anyone have any ideas how I form something that the screws can screw into, to hold the door together properly again? I don't think that glueing the pillars back on with super glue is going to be strong enough, but perhaps it is? TIA tim Surely it's the landlord's issue to get it fixed? Why is it? - if you rent a house from the council, they don't come and redecorate every time you fancy a colour change...if he's rented the house with fixtures and fittings, it's up to him to pay for the upkeep of those fittings, he can't smash all the doors (a regular occurence in the rented sector) and ring the landlord to come out and replace them, unless he wan't evicting sharpish. That depends on the agreement. Nobody suggested anything about deliberate damage. OTOH, perhaps he means that the washing machine's a rental one. If that's the case, then the issue should be with the renting supplier, assuming that it's fair wear and tear. |
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"tim\(yet another new home\)" writes: Try not to make this too complicated... The door fell of my washing machine and I need to fix it. It's a rental, so chucking it and buying a new one is not an option. (and it's the fitted type as well). The door consist of two plastic parts forming the inside and the outside of the door, with the glass and the fixings squashed in between. Alignment on the hinge relys upon these two parts being fixed together tightly. A replacement door is only available as a full set of parts costing over 100 quid! (with delivery) Try CPC on 01772 654455. A new door without the glass (transferred from original door) for my Hotpoint was only £10. -- Andrew Gabriel |
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tim(yet another new home) wrote:
Try not to make this too complicated... The door fell of my washing machine and I need to fix it. It's a rental, so chucking it and buying a new one is not an option. (and it's the fitted type as well). The door consist of two plastic parts forming the inside and the outside of the door, with the glass and the fixings squashed in between. Alignment on the hinge relys upon these two parts being fixed together tightly. A replacement door is only available as a full set of parts costing over 100 quid! (with delivery) It fell off, because two of the pillars that the screws fit into have broken off and it is no longer secure. So, does anyone have any ideas how I form something that the screws can screw into, to hold the door together properly again? I don't think that glueing the pillars back on with super glue is going to be strong enough, but perhaps it is? TIA tim You can TRY car body filler..it does sort of adhere to some plastics..but really its a new door time. Almost nothing adheres to plastics properly.. |
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tim(yet another new home) wrote:
Try not to make this too complicated... The door fell of my washing machine and I need to fix it. It's a rental, so chucking it and buying a new one is not an option. (and it's the fitted type as well). The door consist of two plastic parts forming the inside and the outside of the door, with the glass and the fixings squashed in between. Alignment on the hinge relys upon these two parts being fixed together tightly. A replacement door is only available as a full set of parts costing over 100 quid! (with delivery) It fell off, because two of the pillars that the screws fit into have broken off and it is no longer secure. So, does anyone have any ideas how I form something that the screws can screw into, to hold the door together properly again? I don't think that glueing the pillars back on with super glue is going to be strong enough, but perhaps it is? TIA tim If the house is rented, its the landlords job to fix it. If the machine's rented, its the rental co's job to fix it, and you'd be mad to rent a washer or tv in anything other than exceptional circumstances these days. If you try and fix it, either of the above can then reuse to repair it. NT |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On 2006-11-20 22:42:12 +0000, "tim\(yet another new home\)" said: Try not to make this too complicated... The door fell of my washing machine and I need to fix it. It's a rental, so chucking it and buying a new one is not an option. (and it's the fitted type as well). The door consist of two plastic parts forming the inside and the outside of the door, with the glass and the fixings squashed in between. Alignment on the hinge relys upon these two parts being fixed together tightly. A replacement door is only available as a full set of parts costing over 100 quid! (with delivery) It fell off, because two of the pillars that the screws fit into have broken off and it is no longer secure. So, does anyone have any ideas how I form something that the screws can screw into, to hold the door together properly again? I don't think that glueing the pillars back on with super glue is going to be strong enough, but perhaps it is? TIA tim Surely it's the landlord's issue to get it fixed? It is if they don't claim that I was negligent in breaking it. It's down on th inventory as in good condition. tim |
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wrote in message ups.com... tim(yet another new home) wrote: Try not to make this too complicated... The door fell of my washing machine and I need to fix it. It's a rental, so chucking it and buying a new one is not an option. (and it's the fitted type as well). The door consist of two plastic parts forming the inside and the outside of the door, with the glass and the fixings squashed in between. Alignment on the hinge relys upon these two parts being fixed together tightly. A replacement door is only available as a full set of parts costing over 100 quid! (with delivery) It fell off, because two of the pillars that the screws fit into have broken off and it is no longer secure. So, does anyone have any ideas how I form something that the screws can screw into, to hold the door together properly again? I don't think that glueing the pillars back on with super glue is going to be strong enough, but perhaps it is? TIA tim If the house is rented, its the landlords job to fix it. If the machine's rented, its the rental co's job to fix it, and you'd be mad to rent a washer or tv in anything other than exceptional circumstances these days. If you try and fix it, either of the above can then reuse to repair it. I can see that everyone's confused. The flat is rented and the washing machine is supplied by the landlord. But the item is down in the inventory as undamaged. In fac,t it says slight mildrew on inner seal so I can't even claim that they didn't check. So, my fiver says that the landlord will say that I broke it and send me the bill. tim |
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tim(yet another new home) wrote: The flat is rented and the washing machine is supplied by the landlord. But the item is down in the inventory as undamaged. In fac,t it says slight mildrew on inner seal so I can't even claim that they didn't check. So, my fiver says that the landlord will say that I broke it and send me the bill. At which point you will counterclaim that the landlord installed an appliance which was not in a safe condition and could have lead to severe injury if the door had opened during a hot wash. Quite right. Don't assume the position of victim automatically. The best form of defense is attack as Wellington said. Berate the landlord about his putting your family at risk etc. -- Dave The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
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On 2006-11-21 18:42:52 +0000, "tim\(yet another new home\)"
said: "Andy Hall" wrote in message ... m Surely it's the landlord's issue to get it fixed? It is if they don't claim that I was negligent in breaking it. It's down on th inventory as in good condition. tim Fine, but unless you did something like sitting on it or otherwise demonstrably breaking it, this is fair wear and tear. I can appreciate that this is all well intentioned and you are trying to be a good tenant etc.; however, there's a fair chance tht you will make the situation worse and the attempted repair will come back and haunt you. I think that it would be far better to simply tell the landlord that the thing has broken and ask for his agreement to a repair. |
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On 2006-11-21 18:48:21 +0000, "tim\(yet another new home\)"
said: I can see that everyone's confused. The flat is rented and the washing machine is supplied by the landlord. But the item is down in the inventory as undamaged. In fac,t it says slight mildrew on inner seal so I can't even claim that they didn't check. So, my fiver says that the landlord will say that I broke it and send me the bill. tim I think that you are being unecessarily negative and assuming an adversarial position before yo have tested his reaction. You don't need to do that. Simply tell his that the thing has failed and ask him to arrange repair. If he then makes accusations that you broke it, then is the time to be adversarial. |
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 22:42:12 -0000, "tim\(yet another new home\)"
wrote: Try not to make this too complicated... The door fell of my washing machine and I need to fix it. It's a rental, so chucking it and buying a new one is not an option. (and it's the fitted type as well). The door consist of two plastic parts forming the inside and the outside of the door, with the glass and the fixings squashed in between. Alignment on the hinge relys upon these two parts being fixed together tightly. A replacement door is only available as a full set of parts costing over 100 quid! (with delivery) It fell off, because two of the pillars that the screws fit into have broken off and it is no longer secure. So, does anyone have any ideas how I form something that the screws can screw into, to hold the door together properly again? I don't think that glueing the pillars back on with super glue is going to be strong enough, but perhaps it is? JB Weld to form supports for the threads and a polyurethane adhesive like Sikaflex 221 or 291 to bond metal to plastic. For the lazy you can get both on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JB-WELD-STIK-W...QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SIKAFLEX-291-A...mZ320039460512 -- |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On 2006-11-21 18:48:21 +0000, "tim\(yet another new home\)" said: I can see that everyone's confused. The flat is rented and the washing machine is supplied by the landlord. But the item is down in the inventory as undamaged. In fac,t it says slight mildrew on inner seal so I can't even claim that they didn't check. So, my fiver says that the landlord will say that I broke it and send me the bill. tim I think that you are being unecessarily negative and assuming an adversarial position before yo have tested his reaction. You don't need to do that. The first thing is that agents have already proven themselves to be a right PITA. And secondly, it is absolutely clear that the item has been broken due to misuse. So, as it is marked down on the inventory as unbroken, that misuse will fall to me, even though this wasn't the case. tim |
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"tim(yet another new home)" wrote in message
... And secondly, it is absolutely clear that the item has been broken due to misuse. So, as it is marked down on the inventory as unbroken, that misuse will fall to me, even though this wasn't the case. So who did misuse it then? cheers, clive |
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In the meantime, keep your eye open at your local tip - if you spot a machine with the same door it'll probably cost you no more than a fiver. A practice forbidden at my local tip ;-) -- Adrian C |
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"Clive George" wrote in message ... "tim(yet another new home)" wrote in message ... And secondly, it is absolutely clear that the item has been broken due to misuse. So, as it is marked down on the inventory as unbroken, that misuse will fall to me, even though this wasn't the case. So who did misuse it then? Obviously, one of the 9 previous tenants for which I am still getting post. One of the things that the agent has so far done wrong was to deny that there were previous tenants. But all the evidence suggests otherwise. tim |
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from Adrian C contains these words: In the meantime, keep your eye open at your local tip - if you spot a machine with the same door it'll probably cost you no more than a fiver. A practice forbidden at my local tip ;-) Mine too, formally. Informally if you're friendly and helpful formality can be left behind. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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On 2006-11-22 18:55:22 +0000, Guy King said:
The message from Adrian C contains these words: In the meantime, keep your eye open at your local tip - if you spot a machine with the same door it'll probably cost you no more than a fiver. A practice forbidden at my local tip ;-) Mine too, formally. Informally if you're friendly and helpful formality can be left behind. Don't they put down traps for weasels though? |
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On 2006-11-22 18:30:01 +0000, "tim\(yet another new home\)"
said: "Clive George" wrote in message ... "tim(yet another new home)" wrote in message ... And secondly, it is absolutely clear that the item has been broken due to misuse. So, as it is marked down on the inventory as unbroken, that misuse will fall to me, even though this wasn't the case. So who did misuse it then? Obviously, one of the 9 previous tenants for which I am still getting post. One of the things that the agent has so far done wrong was to deny that there were previous tenants. But all the evidence suggests otherwise. tim OK. Now the bigger picture helps and the dilemma is clear. How long are you planning to stay there? That would determine whether perhaps you want to make a bodge (which clearly you can deny as long as it's not visually obvious); or whether you want to make a proper repair, sourcing the correct spares and doing it properly. A sticking job isn't going to be long lived. OTOH, if you are planning to stay for a year or two, perhaps it's worth doing a proper job.... |
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from Andy Hall contains these words: A practice forbidden at my local tip ;-) Mine too, formally. Informally if you're friendly and helpful formality can be left behind. Don't they put down traps for weasels though? Only for wild ones. Us semi-domesticated sort get away with murder. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On 2006-11-22 18:30:01 +0000, "tim\(yet another new home\)" said: "Clive George" wrote in message ... "tim(yet another new home)" wrote in message ... And secondly, it is absolutely clear that the item has been broken due to misuse. So, as it is marked down on the inventory as unbroken, that misuse will fall to me, even though this wasn't the case. So who did misuse it then? Obviously, one of the 9 previous tenants for which I am still getting post. One of the things that the agent has so far done wrong was to deny that there were previous tenants. But all the evidence suggests otherwise. tim OK. Now the bigger picture helps and the dilemma is clear. How long are you planning to stay there? That would determine whether perhaps you want to make a bodge (which clearly you can deny as long as it's not visually obvious); or whether you want to make a proper repair, sourcing the correct spares and doing it properly. A sticking job isn't going to be long lived. OTOH, if you are planning to stay for a year or two, perhaps it's worth doing a proper job.... Therein is problem 1 I don't know, it depends upon the job. I freelance, and my position is uncertain. I am unlikey to get a different job in this locality if the current one ends. Problem 2 is, I hate the idea of being ripped off by the company that supplies the spares (this task has been subcontracted by the manufacturer). Having to spend 100 quid on a bundle of parts and throwing four-fifths away irks. I don't really hold much hope in randomly finding the right part at the tip. tim |
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