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Regarding the UK ...

Do the old style optician shops (one-man-&-receptionist who test eyes
and dispense specs) usually cut the lens to fit the frame actually ON
THE PREMISES?

Or, in the case of these small opticians, is cutting the lenses to shape
something which would usually be done by some external company that
probably supplied the lenses?

Jaxx ) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying
:

Do the old style optician shops (one-man-&-receptionist who test eyes
and dispense specs) usually cut the lens to fit the frame actually ON
THE PREMISES?

Or, in the case of these small opticians, is cutting the lenses to shape
something which would usually be done by some external company that
probably supplied the lenses?

Not sure what it's got to do with cars, but...

If you want somewhere that makes 'em onsite, that's FAR more likely to be a
big chain one-hour place than a small indie. They'll send the order away.

Thought about these online retailers?

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Do the old style optician shops (one-man-&-receptionist who test eyes
and dispense specs) usually cut the lens to fit the frame actually ON
THE PREMISES?

No



Or, in the case of these small opticians, is cutting the lenses to shape
something which would usually be done by some external company that
probably supplied the lenses?

Lenses are made by specialists. Look under Optical Goods Manufacturers and
Wholesalers in yell.com
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Regarding the UK ...

Do the old style optician shops (one-man-&-receptionist who test eyes
and dispense specs) usually cut the lens to fit the frame actually ON
THE PREMISES?

Or, in the case of these small opticians, is cutting the lenses to shape
something which would usually be done by some external company that
probably supplied the lenses?

My optician finishes off the lenses

How else are they going to get a good fit in the frame ?



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Do the old style optician shops (one-man-&-receptionist who test eyes
and dispense specs) usually cut the lens to fit the frame actually ON
THE PREMISES?

Or, in the case of these small opticians, is cutting the lenses to shape
something which would usually be done by some external company that
probably supplied the lenses?

My optician certainly does (single shop, not a chain). Fascinating to
watch and the glass dust is weird

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My optician certainly does (single shop, not a chain). Fascinating to
watch and the glass dust is weird

Weird how?

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Do the old style optician shops (one-man-&-receptionist who test eyes
and dispense specs) usually cut the lens to fit the frame actually ON
THE PREMISES?

Or, in the case of these small opticians, is cutting the lenses to shape
something which would usually be done by some external company that
probably supplied the lenses?

My optician finishes off the lenses

How else are they going to get a good fit in the frame ?

The lab supplies the frame and lens....
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Or, in the case of these small opticians, is cutting the lenses to shape
something which would usually be done by some external company that
probably supplied the lenses?

Here (NE Scotland) our optician sends the frames away for the lenses to
be fitted.

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raden wrote:

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Regarding the UK ...

Do the old style optician shops (one-man-&-receptionist who test eyes
and dispense specs) usually cut the lens to fit the frame actually ON
THE PREMISES?

Or, in the case of these small opticians, is cutting the lenses to shape
something which would usually be done by some external company that
probably supplied the lenses?

My optician finishes off the lenses

How else are they going to get a good fit in the frame ?

The lab supplies the frame and lens....

Not in my local opticians they don't

Finishing off lenses is hardly rocket science


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Regarding the UK ...

Do the old style optician shops (one-man-&-receptionist who test eyes
and dispense specs) usually cut the lens to fit the frame actually ON
THE PREMISES?

Or, in the case of these small opticians, is cutting the lenses to shape
something which would usually be done by some external company that
probably supplied the lenses?

My optician certainly does (single shop, not a chain). Fascinating to
watch and the glass dust is weird

Glass ?

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geoff

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Regarding the UK ...

Do the old style optician shops (one-man-&-receptionist who test eyes
and dispense specs) usually cut the lens to fit the frame actually ON
THE PREMISES?

Or, in the case of these small opticians, is cutting the lenses to shape
something which would usually be done by some external company that
probably supplied the lenses?

Inhouse would be unusual, theres normally an optical manufacturing unit
somwhere that the vast majority of opticians in your area will use- I worked
in one for a while, they service chains and indies alike.

Ad

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Regarding the UK ...

Do the old style optician shops (one-man-&-receptionist who test eyes
and dispense specs) usually cut the lens to fit the frame actually ON
THE PREMISES?

Or, in the case of these small opticians, is cutting the lenses to shape
something which would usually be done by some external company that
probably supplied the lenses?

Inhouse would be unusual, theres normally an optical manufacturing unit
somwhere that the vast majority of opticians in your area will use- I worked
in one for a while, they service chains and indies alike.

Ad


frames - italian, lens - a dispensing wholesale optician who buys them
in or as is own workshop but can be frank smith in an old draughty
factory who does work on the side for people who dont want to pay to see
an optician!

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raden wrote:

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[off topic]


Regarding the UK ...

Do the old style optician shops (one-man-&-receptionist who test eyes
and dispense specs) usually cut the lens to fit the frame actually ON
THE PREMISES?

Or, in the case of these small opticians, is cutting the lenses to
shape
something which would usually be done by some external company that
probably supplied the lenses?

My optician finishes off the lenses

How else are they going to get a good fit in the frame ?

The lab supplies the frame and lens....

Not in my local opticians they don't

Finishing off lenses is hardly rocket science


Your optician will certainly not fabricate the frame or the lens.

As for finishing not being rocket science, please enlighten us.

"Jaxx" wrote in message
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Regarding the UK ...

Do the old style optician shops (one-man-&-receptionist who test eyes
and dispense specs) usually cut the lens to fit the frame actually ON
THE PREMISES?

Or, in the case of these small opticians, is cutting the lenses to shape
something which would usually be done by some external company that
probably supplied the lenses?

Its a bit of lottery...

Some do their own, on crap equipment that should have gone down with the
ark.
Some are well skilled and use decent gear.
Some send to a lab who have crap equipment, and staff who couldn't give a
****.
Some send to a lab who have state of the art gear and discerning techs.

really fine but sort of clings together

I guess I also had memories of people being killed by being fed powdered
glass in old detective books.



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My optician certainly does (single shop, not a chain). Fascinating to
watch and the glass dust is weird

Weird how?

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Regarding the UK ...

Do the old style optician shops (one-man-&-receptionist who test eyes
and dispense specs) usually cut the lens to fit the frame actually ON
THE PREMISES?

Or, in the case of these small opticians, is cutting the lenses to shape
something which would usually be done by some external company that
probably supplied the lenses?

My optician certainly does (single shop, not a chain). Fascinating to
watch and the glass dust is weird

Glass ?

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geoff

Yeah - when I watched (a few years back) most lenses were still glass. I
still wear glass lenses where possible

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writes

Do the old style optician shops (one-man-&-receptionist who test eyes
and dispense specs) usually cut the lens to fit the frame actually ON
THE PREMISES?

Or, in the case of these small opticians, is cutting the lenses to
shape
something which would usually be done by some external company that
probably supplied the lenses?

My optician finishes off the lenses

How else are they going to get a good fit in the frame ?

The lab supplies the frame and lens....

Not in my local opticians they don't

Finishing off lenses is hardly rocket science


Your optician will certainly not fabricate the frame or the lens.

As for finishing not being rocket science, please enlighten us.


We know you supply lenses - we had a thread about it a while back

The question was

"Do the old style optician shops usually cut the lens to fit the frame
actually ON THE PREMISES?"

I have some spectacles here if you need to borrow them





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glass dust
really fine but sort of clings together

That's not my experience of glass dust. Sounds more like polymer dust to me.

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Regarding the UK ...

Do the old style optician shops (one-man-&-receptionist who test eyes
and dispense specs) usually cut the lens to fit the frame actually ON
THE PREMISES?


I do.

Or, in the case of these small opticians, is cutting the lenses to shape
something which would usually be done by some external company that
probably supplied the lenses?

It varies. I would guess that about 20% of independent optometrists
(opticians) have their own glazing machines. The others will generally send
away to local or national labs.

Graybags

On 23 Sep 2006, Chris wrote:

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Regarding the UK ...

Do the old style optician shops (one-man-&-receptionist who test
eyes and dispense specs) usually cut the lens to fit the frame
actually ON THE PREMISES?

Or, in the case of these small opticians, is cutting the lenses
to shape something which would usually be done by some external
company that probably supplied the lenses?

My optician certainly does (single shop, not a chain).
Fascinating to watch and the glass dust is weird

Glass ?

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geoff

Yeah - when I watched (a few years back) most lenses were still
glass. I still wear glass lenses where possible

The cracks in glass are better quality, I guess? :-)

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On 23 Sep 2006, Chris wrote:

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Regarding the UK ...

Do the old style optician shops (one-man-&-receptionist who test
eyes and dispense specs) usually cut the lens to fit the frame
actually ON THE PREMISES?

Or, in the case of these small opticians, is cutting the lenses
to shape something which would usually be done by some external
company that probably supplied the lenses?
My optician certainly does (single shop, not a chain).
Fascinating to watch and the glass dust is weird

Glass ?

--
geoff
Yeah - when I watched (a few years back) most lenses were still
glass. I still wear glass lenses where possible

The cracks in glass are better quality, I guess? :-)
i prefer plastic it doesnt shatter, it is lighter and i cant tell the
difference in quality, any problems i have got is down to how good the
original prescription is! you dont get a choice they all plastic
nowadays- no one asked me "would you like glass sir? or a poke in the
eye with a blunt stick!" LOL

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On 23 Sep 2006, Chris wrote:

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"Jaxx" wrote in message
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Regarding the UK ...

Do the old style optician shops (one-man-&-receptionist who test
eyes and dispense specs) usually cut the lens to fit the frame
actually ON THE PREMISES?

Or, in the case of these small opticians, is cutting the lenses
to shape something which would usually be done by some external
company that probably supplied the lenses?
My optician certainly does (single shop, not a chain). Fascinating to
watch and the glass dust is weird

Glass ?

--
geoff
Yeah - when I watched (a few years back) most lenses were still
glass. I still wear glass lenses where possible

The cracks in glass are better quality, I guess? :-)
i prefer plastic it doesnt shatter, it is lighter and i cant tell the
difference in quality, any problems i have got is down to how good the
original prescription is! you dont get a choice they all plastic nowadays-
no one asked me "would you like glass sir? or a poke in the eye with a
blunt stick!" LOL

I have no problem getting glass lenses.
I appreciate your point about the danger of glass shattering but I sill
prefer glass because they are less prone to scratching and seem to be better
for my sight (the main reason for preferring them)

Of course plastic lenses are lighter (but not greatly so for my
prescription) and best of all they mist up less when you walk into a warm
room in winter.

On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:48:04 UTC, "Chris" wrote:

I have no problem getting glass lenses.
I appreciate your point about the danger of glass shattering but I sill
prefer glass because they are less prone to scratching and seem to be better
for my sight (the main reason for preferring them)

Of course plastic lenses are lighter (but not greatly so for my
prescription) and best of all they mist up less when you walk into a warm
room in winter.

I believe that some prescriptions actually require glass lenses, due to
differences in refractive index and the sheer thickness required. This
may have changed.

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Jaxx wrote:

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in all the groups you posted to :-)

Do the old style optician shops (one-man-&-receptionist who test eyes
and dispense specs) usually cut the lens to fit the frame actually ON
THE PREMISES?

I usually have a chat to mine I'm in, he's a good bloke, pretty small
shop, they send the lenses off to be cut, he says it really is a better
job done out-of-house, thought they sometimes chamfer and polish the
edges themselves.

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Regarding the UK ...

Do the old style optician shops (one-man-&-receptionist who test eyes
and dispense specs) usually cut the lens to fit the frame actually ON
THE PREMISES?

Or, in the case of these small opticians, is cutting the lenses to shape
something which would usually be done by some external company that
probably supplied the lenses?

I doubt it. My bird used to work in one of the big chains and they got
theirs in, then ground them to the shape of the frames onsite.

On 24 Sep 2006 09:58:06 GMT, Bob Eager wrote:

I believe that some prescriptions actually require glass lenses, due to
differences in refractive index and the sheer thickness required. This
may have changed.

I choose glass lenses and high refractive index glass as well. Plastic
lenses would be more than twice as thick as these glass ones at the
edges, that is they would be over a 1/4" thick.

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"Chris" wrote in message
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The cracks in glass are better quality, I guess? :-)
i prefer plastic it doesnt shatter, it is lighter and i cant tell the
difference in quality, any problems i have got is down to how good the
original prescription is! you dont get a choice they all plastic
nowadays- no one asked me "would you like glass sir? or a poke in the eye
with a blunt stick!" LOL

I have no problem getting glass lenses.
I appreciate your point about the danger of glass shattering but I sill
prefer glass because they are less prone to scratching

I prefer glass for the same reason. In my job, plastic and grinding dust
don't go well together. A few days and plastic lenses will start to show
scratches. Glass is far more scratch resistant.
Mike.

On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 11:28:06 UTC, "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On 24 Sep 2006 09:58:06 GMT, Bob Eager wrote:

I believe that some prescriptions actually require glass lenses, due to
differences in refractive index and the sheer thickness required. This
may have changed.

I choose glass lenses and high refractive index glass as well. Plastic
lenses would be more than twice as thick as these glass ones at the
edges, that is they would be over a 1/4" thick.

Yes, I used to have that problem. Now the consultant has told me not to
bother with getting that eye tested for a good while as it is changing
rapidly (and by the time it's finished, it may not matter).

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Mike G wrote:

"Chris" wrote in message
...

The cracks in glass are better quality, I guess? :-)
i prefer plastic it doesnt shatter, it is lighter and i cant tell the
difference in quality, any problems i have got is down to how good
the original prescription is! you dont get a choice they all plastic
nowadays- no one asked me "would you like glass sir? or a poke in the
eye with a blunt stick!" LOL

I have no problem getting glass lenses.
I appreciate your point about the danger of glass shattering but I
sill prefer glass because they are less prone to scratching

I prefer glass for the same reason. In my job, plastic and grinding dust
don't go well together. A few days and plastic lenses will start to show
scratches. Glass is far more scratch resistant.
Mike.

They apply a scratch resistant coating to mine.

tony typed


They apply a scratch resistant coating to mine.

They do that to mine too but the end result is still far softer (=more
easily scratched) than glass.

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Edgware.

"tony" wrote in message
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Mike G wrote:

"Chris" wrote in message
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The cracks in glass are better quality, I guess? :-)
i prefer plastic it doesnt shatter, it is lighter and i cant tell the
difference in quality, any problems i have got is down to how good the
original prescription is! you dont get a choice they all plastic
nowadays- no one asked me "would you like glass sir? or a poke in the
eye with a blunt stick!" LOL

I have no problem getting glass lenses.
I appreciate your point about the danger of glass shattering but I sill
prefer glass because they are less prone to scratching

I prefer glass for the same reason. In my job, plastic and grinding dust
don't go well together. A few days and plastic lenses will start to show
scratches. Glass is far more scratch resistant.
Mike.

They apply a scratch resistant coating to mine.

As they do to mine. I suppose it does make a difference, but they still
scratch quite easily.
Carborundum grinding dust will even scratch glass lenses unless any dust is
wiped of carefully without using any pressure.
Mike.

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"Jaxx" wrote in message
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Regarding the UK ...

Do the old style optician shops (one-man-&-receptionist who test
eyes and dispense specs) usually cut the lens to fit the frame
actually ON THE PREMISES?

Or, in the case of these small opticians, is cutting the lenses to
shape something which would usually be done by some external
company that probably supplied the lenses?

Its a bit of lottery...

Some do their own, on crap equipment that should have gone down with
the ark.

The ark never went down.

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ThePunisher

tony wrote:

Mike G wrote:

"Chris" wrote in message
...

The cracks in glass are better quality, I guess? :-)
i prefer plastic it doesnt shatter, it is lighter and i cant tell the
difference in quality, any problems i have got is down to how good
the original prescription is! you dont get a choice they all plastic
nowadays- no one asked me "would you like glass sir? or a poke in the
eye with a blunt stick!" LOL

I have no problem getting glass lenses.
I appreciate your point about the danger of glass shattering but I
sill prefer glass because they are less prone to scratching

I prefer glass for the same reason. In my job, plastic and grinding dust
don't go well together. A few days and plastic lenses will start to show
scratches. Glass is far more scratch resistant.
Mike.

They apply a scratch resistant coating to mine.

The coating is actually applied by the lens manufacturer prior to final
moulding.

Chris

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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.com...
On 24 Sep 2006 09:58:06 GMT, Bob Eager wrote:

I believe that some prescriptions actually require glass lenses, due to
differences in refractive index and the sheer thickness required. This
may have changed.

It has.


I choose glass lenses and high refractive index glass as well. Plastic
lenses would be more than twice as thick as these glass ones at the
edges, that is they would be over a 1/4" thick.


Plastic lenses reach up to 1.74 refractive index at the moment. Glass can be
obtained in 1.9 - certainly not anywhere near twice as thin.

There are pros and cons for both. Glass lenses are trickier to scratch, but
will "pit" with impact, and will shatter if you fall on your face, and can
shatter on high velocity impact, plastic lenses will not shatter, but will
scratch readily. Loss of eyesight for the sake of new lenses every now and
then due to scratches seems to be a poor pay-off to me.

I never offer glass lenses to my patients unless they have had them last
time, or specifically ask for them. Very occasionally I'll choose a glass
photochromic lens for a patient, as they react better than the plastic ones
(although the gap is narrowing).

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"Graybags" writes:
Plastic lenses reach up to 1.74 refractive index at the moment. Glass can be
obtained in 1.9 - certainly not anywhere near twice as thin.

Ah, what you really want are diamond lenses, at 2.42... ;-)

There's also Synthetic Moissanite at 2.69, but I don't know
how large a piece can be manufacturered.

--
Andrew Gabriel

raden wrote:


My optician finishes off the lenses

How else are they going to get a good fit in the frame ?

Manufacturers of frames supply templates for the cutting machines.

Chris

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On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 18:12:56 +0100, Graybags wrote:

Glass lenses are trickier to scratch, but will "pit" with impact, and
will shatter if you fall on your face,

I try not to fall flat on my face it hurts the nose. If I do fall (a rare
event) I find the natural action of gazing ones hands or rolling causes
the glasses to fly off and, very occasionally, shatter elsewhere.

Loss of eyesight for the sake of new lenses every now and then due to
scratches seems to be a poor pay-off to me.

In nearly 40 years of wearing glasses I don't think I have ever had a
lens break or shatter whilst they have been near my eyes. I have had
plastic lenses and they became annoyingly scratched in a a year or two.
With glass lenses they might get one or two in their life of many years.

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On 24 Sep 2006 18:50:02 GMT, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

Ah, what you really want are diamond lenses, at 2.42... ;-)

There's also Synthetic Moissanite at 2.69, but I don't know
how large a piece can be manufacturered.

I suspect the colour aberration at the edges would be horrendous. It's
pretty bad with these glass jobbies. I don't think it would make any
difference to the barrel distortion though.

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On 2006-09-23, raden wrote:
In message , Jaxx
writes
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Regarding the UK ...

Do the old style optician shops (one-man-&-receptionist who test eyes
and dispense specs) usually cut the lens to fit the frame actually ON
THE PREMISES?

Or, in the case of these small opticians, is cutting the lenses to shape
something which would usually be done by some external company that
probably supplied the lenses?

My optician finishes off the lenses

How else are they going to get a good fit in the frame ?

These days they scan the frames and the lenses are cut off-site
to the scan. Works a treat. Means you don't have to send your
frames off for new lenses to be cut.

Mine must have a teleporter then

it took about 10 minutes to "lift" my varifocals 1/4"

--
geoff

Dave Liquorice wrote:

Loss of eyesight for the sake of new lenses every now and then due to
scratches seems to be a poor pay-off to me.

In nearly 40 years of wearing glasses I don't think I have ever had a
lens break or shatter whilst they have been near my eyes. I have had
plastic lenses and they became annoyingly scratched in a a year or two.
With glass lenses they might get one or two in their life of many years.

Not an issue for me. I break frames more or less every 18 months anyway.
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www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark
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