Hi All
The new house we're moving to has a built-in fridge freezer in the
kitchen - looks from the outside like two under-counter units
side-by-side.

Never had such a thing before - so I've got a question...

Is this setup likely to be two separate electrical units - as in 'a
fridge' and 'a freezer' - which are mounted side-by-side -

or

could it be a sort of 'combination' unit - with one half being a
fridge and the other being a freezer....? - do such things exist ?

Reason for asking is that we prefer a fridge to be up off the ground
as we find it's easier to use - and, if it was a couple of units side
by side then they could possibly end up 'stacked' one on top of the
other to achieve this.....

Anybody up to speed on these things & would be so kind as to
advise....?

Thanks
Adrian

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Is this setup likely to be two separate electrical units - as in 'a
fridge' and 'a freezer' - which are mounted side-by-side -

Often.

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Hi Guy

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:30:01 +0100, Guy King
wrote:

The message
from Adrian contains these words:

Is this setup likely to be two separate electrical units - as in 'a
fridge' and 'a freezer' - which are mounted side-by-side -

Often.

Thanks !
Can separate 'side-by-side' units be 'stacked' vertically in a
suitable housing ??

Adrian

In article ,
Adrian writes:
Hi All
The new house we're moving to has a built-in fridge freezer in the
kitchen - looks from the outside like two under-counter units
side-by-side.

Never had such a thing before - so I've got a question...

Is this setup likely to be two separate electrical units - as in 'a
fridge' and 'a freezer' - which are mounted side-by-side -

Side-by-side ones are separate AFAIK.

could it be a sort of 'combination' unit - with one half being a
fridge and the other being a freezer....? - do such things exist ?

Yes, but in the case of one above the other.

Reason for asking is that we prefer a fridge to be up off the ground
as we find it's easier to use - and, if it was a couple of units side
by side then they could possibly end up 'stacked' one on top of the
other to achieve this.....

That's usually explicity forbidden in the instructions
for reasons of safety (toppling) and ventilation, unless
the units were designed to work that way. Also, doors
will open opposite way, although these are usually
reversable nowadays, although holes made for door handles
may be not be.

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Andrew Gabriel

Hi Andrew
Thanks for the reply

On 30 Jul 2006 21:02:25 GMT, (Andrew
Gabriel) wrote:

In article ,
Adrian writes:
Hi All
The new house we're moving to has a built-in fridge freezer in the
kitchen - looks from the outside like two under-counter units
side-by-side.

Never had such a thing before - so I've got a question...

Is this setup likely to be two separate electrical units - as in 'a
fridge' and 'a freezer' - which are mounted side-by-side -

Side-by-side ones are separate AFAIK.

OK - thanks


could it be a sort of 'combination' unit - with one half being a
fridge and the other being a freezer....? - do such things exist ?

Yes, but in the case of one above the other.

Understood


Reason for asking is that we prefer a fridge to be up off the ground
as we find it's easier to use - and, if it was a couple of units side
by side then they could possibly end up 'stacked' one on top of the
other to achieve this.....

That's usually explicity forbidden in the instructions
for reasons of safety (toppling) and ventilation, unless
the units were designed to work that way. Also, doors
will open opposite way, although these are usually
reversable nowadays, although holes made for door handles
may be not be.

OK. I guess the 'toppling' thing could be overcome by use of a
suitable housing (currently we have the cooker & the fridge up off the
ground - both sitting in cooker housings - works fine) - but I imagine
there might be problems with ventilation....

Hopefully the builder will have left the instructions behind..... !

Thanks
Adrian

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from Adrian contains these words:

Thanks !
Can separate 'side-by-side' units be 'stacked' vertically in a
suitable housing ??

Don't see why not, but bear in mind that you'll need a lot of
ventilation because you've got two heat-pumps chucking heat into the
same space at the back.

Personally I'd chuck 'em and have a proper fridge-freezer simply to save
on the power consumption.

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Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

Hi Guy

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:25:25 +0100, Guy King
wrote:

The message
from Adrian contains these words:

Thanks !
Can separate 'side-by-side' units be 'stacked' vertically in a
suitable housing ??

Don't see why not, but bear in mind that you'll need a lot of
ventilation because you've got two heat-pumps chucking heat into the
same space at the back.

True


Personally I'd chuck 'em and have a proper fridge-freezer simply to save
on the power consumption.

That's a thought.
Thing is - they're brand new - seems a shame not to use them....
we'll see...

Thanks
Adrian

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from Adrian contains these words:

That's a thought.
Thing is - they're brand new - seems a shame not to use them....
we'll see...

You could always flog 'em - or see if you can find a swap for someone
who's got a fridge-freezer.

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Skipweasel
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

Adrian wrote:

On 30 Jul 2006 21:02:25 GMT, (Andrew
Gabriel) wrote:

OK. I guess the 'toppling' thing could be overcome by use of a
suitable housing (currently we have the cooker & the fridge up off the
ground - both sitting in cooker housings - works fine) - but I imagine
there might be problems with ventilation....

I don't think I've ever come across a fabricated kitchen unit designed
to hold a separate fridge and freezer one above the other... my guess is
that the only reason is that such a configuration makes no sense at all
if your designing a kitchen from scratch; you'd simply have a single
fridge-freezer of comparable size, which would be much cheaper to buy
and to run than two. I suppose there's nothing to stop you building a
bespoke unit though - I can't see any fundamental problem with either
toppling or ventilation that can't be cured by the design. However, is
this a new fitted kitchen - are you going to end up trashing it by all
this work? Do you know which kitchen it is and can you still get more
bits for it?

Hopefully the builder will have left the instructions behind..... !

Yeah, right (sorry!)

David

Hi David

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:58:21 GMT, Lobster
wrote:

Adrian wrote:

On 30 Jul 2006 21:02:25 GMT, (Andrew
Gabriel) wrote:

OK. I guess the 'toppling' thing could be overcome by use of a
suitable housing (currently we have the cooker & the fridge up off the
ground - both sitting in cooker housings - works fine) - but I imagine
there might be problems with ventilation....

I don't think I've ever come across a fabricated kitchen unit designed
to hold a separate fridge and freezer one above the other... my guess is
that the only reason is that such a configuration makes no sense at all
if your designing a kitchen from scratch; you'd simply have a single
fridge-freezer of comparable size, which would be much cheaper to buy
and to run than two. I suppose there's nothing to stop you building a
bespoke unit though - I can't see any fundamental problem with either
toppling or ventilation that can't be cured by the design. However, is
this a new fitted kitchen - are you going to end up trashing it by all
this work? Do you know which kitchen it is and can you still get more
bits for it?

Yes, it's a newly-fitted kitchen, and, as it was done in the last
couple of months I'd imagine that the same units / doors etc are still
available.

We'd do our best not to 'trash it' g - I'm sure that everything will
become clearer for us once we have moved out there (the house is in
the South-West of Ireland - and we're in Suffolk at the moment.... and
we're trying to plan everything from the agent's photos, our memory
and a set of plans that only vaguely resemble what's actually been
built !)

Just now, it's a matter of doing some research - hence the questions
about 'how' built-in units are arranged.

We might end up with a bog-standard upright fridge-freezer and just
fit cupboards where the existing units are - we'll have to decide
later. Hopefully we'll have a short visit out there before we actually
move there, and we'll make some decisions at that time...

Many thanks all
Adrian

Hopefully the builder will have left the instructions behind..... !

Yeah, right (sorry!)

David

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:58:21 GMT, Lobster
wrote:

I don't think I've ever come across a fabricated kitchen unit designed
to hold a separate fridge and freezer one above the other...

I had one so they are or at least were available.

"Guy King" wrote in message
...
The message
from Adrian contains these words:

Thanks !
Can separate 'side-by-side' units be 'stacked' vertically in a
suitable housing ??

Don't see why not, but bear in mind that you'll need a lot of
ventilation because you've got two heat-pumps chucking heat into the
same space at the back.

Personally I'd chuck 'em and have a proper fridge-freezer simply to save
on the power consumption.

I'm think of chucking my fridge-freezer and replacing it with separate
units, because of the better control that you get with a separate compressor
for the fridge. In the recent hot weather, the freezer was working fine, but
the fridge section was running at 10-12C.

Colin Bignell

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I'm think of chucking my fridge-freezer and replacing it with separate
units, because of the better control that you get with a separate
compressor
for the fridge. In the recent hot weather, the freezer was working
fine, but
the fridge section was running at 10-12C.

Odd - the thermostat's usually in the fridge compartment.

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Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

"nightjar" nightjar@insert my surname here.uk.com declared for all
the world to hear...
I'm think of chucking my fridge-freezer and replacing it with separate
units, because of the better control that you get with a separate compressor
for the fridge. In the recent hot weather, the freezer was working fine, but
the fridge section was running at 10-12C.

Get a fridge-freezer with twin compressors.
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Regards
Jon