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In my days in the military I spent a week at a unit training soldiers for
peace keeping duties. Over the mock town was a pylon run and the sound it made was like heavy rain falling. If they are all like that I wouldn't want to live near by. Cheers Jonathan |
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"Dave" writes: We're planning to move soon but noticed there are overhead electric pylons in some parts of the town... health and aesthetic issues aside, we are also concerned about the fizzy and/or buzzing noise they are said to make. Anyone confirm this and suggest at what distance the noise should be inaudible? I have often heard the overhead lines near me buzzing in damp weather. I dont know whether it only happens at the pylons or not, but there is a pylon within about 30 metres of where I have heard buzzing. It happens all along the length of the cables, not just at pylons. I used to walk under some on the way to work, and you could clearly hear when you were underneath, even when visibility was such you couldn't see them. Alongside a main road, you can hear them for perhaps 100 yards either side (these were the 275kV ones). In the quiet countryside, I would imagine that would be extended. As Dave said, it's more noticable in damp weather. -- Andrew Gabriel |
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![]() "Dave" wrote in message ... We're planning to move soon but noticed there are overhead electric pylons in some parts of the town... health and aesthetic issues aside, we are also concerned about the fizzy and/or buzzing noise they are said to make. Anyone confirm this and suggest at what distance the noise should be inaudible? I have often heard the overhead lines near me buzzing in damp weather. I dont know whether it only happens at the pylons or not, but there is a pylon within about 30 metres of where I have heard buzzing. At high voltages (275KV and 440KV) there is often a fizzing noise caused by low level corona discharge around the glass insulators. This discharge can be visible on a dark night, especially during rain or high humidity. The main downside is that the discharge can produce wideband electrical noise which can upset anything from your hi-fi to your TV to your computor, depending on level and distance. -- Woody |
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Some are only (!) 132kv. They are local distribution and tend to be quiet.
Don't climb up with your voltmeter! There is usually a notice with the voltage. Long insulators = higher voltage. http://users.tinyonline.co.uk/bigh/bigh/pylonof.htm -- Regards John j "Stuart" wrote in message ... Anyone confirm this and suggest at what distance the noise should be inaudible? Many thanks, Lionel. We have a pylon near where I work. It's very noisy when it's wet. A colleague of mine opened his umbrella in the car park, and sparks started to fly off of it! Personally, I wouldn't want to live near one - I guess it depends on how close it is. Remember, you may want to sell this house in the future, and other buyers may have the same concerns as you. S. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.497 / Virus Database: 296 - Release Date: 04/07/2003 |
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"Lionel" wrote:
Hello Lionel L| We're planning to move soon but noticed there are overhead L| electric pylons in some parts of the town... health and L| aesthetic issues aside, we are also concerned about the L| fizzy and/or buzzing noise they are said to make. L| Anyone confirm this and suggest at what distance the noise L| should be inaudible? Not all pylons are equal. The big ones do buzz in misty or damp weather, very audibly. Maybe you can't hear 'em behind double glazing, I don't know. I DO know it plays merry hell with mobile and radio signals. Their buzzing also seems to vary according to time of day (I'm guessing load). Small pylons don't buzz, as a rule. Overhead power lines (2 or 3 wires, 11 or 33kv) don't buzz, neither does overhead LV (240vac, usually strung vertically around here). They do arc quite prettily when the wind pushes 'em together though. -- Simon Avery, Dartmoor, UK uk.d-i-y FAQ: http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/ |
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"Lionel" wrote in message ...
Hello, We're planning to move soon but noticed there are overhead electric pylons in some parts of the town... health and aesthetic issues aside, we are also concerned about the fizzy and/or buzzing noise they are said to make. Anyone confirm this and suggest at what distance the noise should be inaudible? Many thanks, Lionel. The normally only buzz on misty nights and from my own experiance you have to be fairly close as well. Ian |
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On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 18:03:31 GMT, Simon Avery wrote:
The big ones do buzz in misty or damp weather, very audibly. Maybe you can't hear 'em behind double glazing, Personally I wouldn't want to be that close to a big power line. I know "they" say that the field is "harmless" but... Overhead power lines (2 or 3 wires, 11 or 33kv) don't buzz, Ours sing, I can't quite make up my mind if it's some curious midfrequency oscilation in the single phase pole transformer or just wind induced wire whistle that is amplified by the pole. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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Simon Avery wrote:
"Lionel" wrote: Hello Lionel L| We're planning to move soon but noticed there are overhead L| electric pylons in some parts of the town... health and L| aesthetic issues aside, we are also concerned about the L| fizzy and/or buzzing noise they are said to make. L| Anyone confirm this and suggest at what distance the noise L| should be inaudible? Not all pylons are equal. The big ones do buzz in misty or damp weather, very audibly. Maybe you can't hear 'em behind double glazing, I don't know. I DO know it plays merry hell with mobile and radio signals. Their buzzing also seems to vary according to time of day (I'm guessing load). Small pylons don't buzz, as a rule. Overhead power lines (2 or 3 wires, 11 or 33kv) don't buzz, They do. Just not very much. Leastways the ones I used to have over the back garden did. neither does overhead LV (240vac, usually strung vertically around here). They do arc quite prettily when the wind pushes 'em together though. |
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John wrote:
Some are only (!) 132kv. They are local distribution and tend to be quiet. Don't climb up with your voltmeter! There is usually a notice with the voltage. Long insulators = higher voltage. http://users.tinyonline.co.uk/bigh/bigh/pylonof.htm Even 11KV overheads buzz in damp weather. |
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In article , John
writes Some are only (!) 132kv. They are local distribution and tend to be quiet. Don't climb up with your voltmeter! There is usually a notice with the voltage. Long insulators = higher voltage. http://users.tinyonline.co.uk/bigh/bigh/pylonof.htm Ah great!. I wondered where than site had gone. Just like the American one the electric pole shrine..a tribute to the lone electric linesman... -- Tony Sayer |
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In message , tony sayer
writes In article , John writes Some are only (!) 132kv. They are local distribution and tend to be quiet. Don't climb up with your voltmeter! There is usually a notice with the voltage. Long insulators = higher voltage. http://users.tinyonline.co.uk/bigh/bigh/pylonof.htm Ah great!. I wondered where than site had gone. Just like the American one the electric pole shrine..a tribute to the lone electric linesman... I remember sending him a load of photos of microwave towers I worked on a few years ago - the word "obsessed" springs to mind -- geoff |
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On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:25:11 +0100, "Jonathan@Home"
wrote: In my days in the military I spent a week at a unit training soldiers for peace keeping duties. Over the mock town was a pylon run and the sound it made was like heavy rain falling. If they are all like that I wouldn't want to live near by. The ones passing near the CPTA were 440kV, and indeed sang quite loudly. However it was also a very quiet environment (if you ignored the odd gunshots, explosions and irate SNCO's). -- Peter Parry. http://www.wpp.ltd.uk/ |
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In article , Peter Parry
writes On Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:25:11 +0100, "Jonathan@Home" wrote: In my days in the military I spent a week at a unit training soldiers for peace keeping duties. Over the mock town was a pylon run and the sound it made was like heavy rain falling. If they are all like that I wouldn't want to live near by. The ones passing near the CPTA were 440kV, and indeed sang quite loudly. However it was also a very quiet environment (if you ignored the odd gunshots, explosions and irate SNCO's). If you wind 1 mile of cable in your garage (as someone did) you can steal the electricity. -- Zaax http://www.ukgatsos.com |
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On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 02:20:21 +0100, zaax wrote:
If you wind 1 mile of cable in your garage (as someone did) you can steal the electricity. Doesn't sound like a good deal to me! I have the benefit of high voltage cables running over my home and potentially inflicting harm on my family, with free electricity. Or not have the high voltage cables and have to pay for electricity. I know which I'd vote for. Andrew Do you need a handyman service? Check out our web site at http://www.handymac.co.uk |
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Andrew McKay wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 02:20:21 +0100, zaax wrote: If you wind 1 mile of cable in your garage (as someone did) you can steal the electricity. Doesn't sound like a good deal to me! I have the benefit of high voltage cables running over my home and potentially inflicting harm on my family, with free electricity. Or not have the high voltage cables and have to pay for electricity. 'Potentially' inflicting harm...haha. Nice pun. They are harmless really, but the static is annoying sometimes. Personaly I like peace and quiet, so I wouldn't. But teh inflicting harm bit is almost certainly baloney. I know which I'd vote for. Andrew Do you need a handyman service? Check out our web site at http://www.handymac.co.uk |
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On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 10:24:06 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: Personaly I like peace and quiet, so I wouldn't. But teh inflicting harm bit is almost certainly baloney. I'm not sure it is possible to draw a conclusion on that. At one time X-rays were considered safe - people used to do magic shows to demonstrate their use. Perhaps an extreme example, but any external influence on the human body could be harmful. Andrew Do you need a handyman service? Check out our web site at http://www.handymac.co.uk |
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Andrew McKay wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 02:20:21 +0100, zaax wrote: If you wind 1 mile of cable in your garage (as someone did) you can steal the electricity. Doesn't sound like a good deal to me! I have the benefit of high voltage cables running over my home and potentially inflicting harm on my family, with free electricity. Or not have the high voltage cables and have to pay for electricity. They only harm your family if they decide to go and climb them (or fly kite into them etc). The only reasonably agreed theory behind power lines causing cancer is that they can cause a static charge in the air around them, this air then attracts potentially carcinogenic particles from vehicle exhausts etc which then "hang around" in the air near the lines rather than falling to the ground, meaning you are more likely to breathe them in. |
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