Hi all, I am new to google groups and would like some advise on posting
and replying.
I hope people have a little patience with us ....students....thanks
all.
pete

In message . com,
gasman pete writes
Hi all, I am new to google groups and would like some advise on posting
and replying.
I hope people have a little patience with us ....students....thanks
all.

It seems all of a sudden you're not the only one

p.s. It's not a forum, it's a newsgroup

Where are you posting to exactly ?

--
geoff

In article . com, gasman
pete wrote:
Hi all, I am new to google groups and would like some advise on posting and
replying. I hope people have a little patience with us ....students....

The news.newusers.questions FAQ http://www.plig.net/nnq/nquote.html How to
post to uk news groups http://www.usenet.org.uk/ukpost.html Proper quoting
style explained http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/quote.html

Your ISP should have already told you about these or similar. As a student
your IT department should have done the same.

--
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Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

It seems all of a sudden you're not the only one
p.s. It's not a forum, it's a newsgroup
Where are you posting to exactly ?


ok so hello everyone could people please help me in this news group to
comply with the norm!!!
But first could someone please tell me what the norm is or where i can
find it out.
how do you want me to reply?
A little help would be greatfully recieved.
I am more than willing to help anyone if they need it how about some of
that good will coming over here...
sorry for bieng blunt but if you cant help how am I expected to
maintain standards.
pete

gasman pete wrote:
It seems all of a sudden you're not the only one
p.s. It's not a forum, it's a newsgroup
Where are you posting to exactly ?


ok so hello everyone could people please help me in this news group to
comply with the norm!!!
But first could someone please tell me what the norm is or where i can
find it out.
how do you want me to reply?
A little help would be greatfully recieved.
I am more than willing to help anyone if they need it how about some of
that good will coming over here...
sorry for bieng blunt but if you cant help how am I expected to
maintain standards.
pete

Well first off you should do a bit of looking around and get the clue
that Google do not provide or even support newsgroups they just leech
off the existing newsgroups, mostly known as Usenet but with several
other additions and local bits and pieces.

Secondly you should consider getting a news client rather than using
Google which doesn't display or format posts to newsgroups properly.

And thirdly you should start by reading something like
news.newusers.questions.

What you ask for is way off topic for this newsgroup and if every new
user here were to ask for and get personal handholding this would cease
to be a DIY newsgroup and become a new user support newsgroup.

"gasman pete" wrote in message
ups.com...

It seems all of a sudden you're not the only one
p.s. It's not a forum, it's a newsgroup
Where are you posting to exactly ?


ok so hello everyone could people please help me in this news group to
comply with the norm!!!
But first could someone please tell me what the norm is or where i can
find it out.
how do you want me to reply?
A little help would be greatfully recieved.
I am more than willing to help anyone if they need it how about some of
that good will coming over here...
sorry for bieng blunt but if you cant help how am I expected to
maintain standards.
pete

I've has a look at your few previous posts and I think I see the problem.
Don't be put off by stroppy so and so's, usenet is a bit boistrous, but most
are far worse than uk.d-i-y they're all pussycats on here!

One thing you have got spot on is 'bottom posting', that is when you have
quoted someone, you put your bit at the bottom so it reads better and is
easier to follow. Also, you post in plain text which is correct.

Generally it *is* a good idea to quote some of the message you are referring
to. Even if it is a new message like the one you made to start this thread,
something you could have done might have been:

example-post-format

Can someone explain to gasman pete
how to post to include what he's
replying to, he doesn't know

Hi all, I am new to google groups and would like some advise on posting
and replying.
I hope people have a little patience with us ....students....thanks
all.
pete


/example-post-format

This can save you an awful lot of typing!
People recognise the bits they've read mainly by virtue of the ''
characters
And can skip to the new bit. But people new to the thread and perhaps where
their news provider has thrown the old posts away, can quickly catch up on
the debate.

Bear in mind that is important to snip the bits your quoting to keep it
relevent and not excessively long.
Most good newsreaders should give you copy of the message you're replying to
as a starting point when you hit REPLY, all conveniently appended with ''
characters.
To reply to a specific post, you probably need to highlight the post and
simply press 'Reply Group'. All newsreaders will vary a little, I don't
know what your using (Outlook Express?).

Oh, you'll get up to speed with the acronyms before you know it too ;-)

HTH (and not too patronising!)
Mike W

gasman pete wrote:
t seems all of a sudden you're not the only one
p.s. It's not a forum, it's a newsgroup
Where are you posting to exactly ?


ok so hello everyone could people please help me in this news group to
comply with the norm!!!
But first could someone please tell me what the norm is or where i can
find it out.
how do you want me to reply?
A little help would be greatfully recieved.
I am more than willing to help anyone if they need it how about some
of that good will coming over here...
sorry for bieng blunt but if you cant help how am I expected to
maintain standards.
pete

Calm down!
You are already complying with the norm, if you start going wrong someone
will put you right, just don't start replying to ancient (over 3 weeks)
posts as they show up as new threads and **** people off big style.
Aslo your name suggests you are a corgi type person? - this is fine but
don't expect people to pay 7 grand for some thieving ******* to move their
cooker six inches, in other words, don't try to talk anyone out of doing it
themselves or spout regulations at folk - they already know but just don't
give a fook!

In message , Phil L
wrote

Aslo your name suggests you are a corgi type person? - this is fine but
don't expect people to pay 7 grand for some thieving ******* to move their
cooker six inches,

Be fair - he may not work for British Gas.

--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

On 9 Apr 2006 12:59:00 -0700, "gasman pete"
wrote:

Hi all, I am new to google groups and would like some advise on posting
and replying.
I hope people have a little patience with us ....students....thanks
all.
pete


The first thing is not to use Google Groups for posting at all. It is
an attempt at a web front end for Internet News (Usenet) and fails
miserably as a means to post to it and to follow threads of messages.

It is valuable to search for previous threads and posts but that is
about it.

Frankly, none of the other attempts at web front ends are much better.

The way to proceed is to get yourself a proper news reader program.
Free Agent is good, and even Outlook Express will do something
passable if used properly.

Then you will need access to a news server. Most ISPs run one of
these included in your subscription - if you look on their support
information web pages, you should find a reference to what to do if
you look for "news", "internet news" or Usenet.

Failing that, you can get an account with a specialist news hosting
organisation such as news.individual.net for a modest sum.


--

..andy

In message , VisionSet
writes

"gasman pete" wrote in message
oups.com...

It seems all of a sudden you're not the only one
p.s. It's not a forum, it's a newsgroup
Where are you posting to exactly ?


ok so hello everyone could people please help me in this news group to
comply with the norm!!!
But first could someone please tell me what the norm is or where i can
find it out.
how do you want me to reply?
A little help would be greatfully recieved.
I am more than willing to help anyone if they need it how about some of
that good will coming over here...
sorry for bieng blunt but if you cant help how am I expected to
maintain standards.
pete

I've has a look at your few previous posts and I think I see the problem.
Don't be put off by stroppy so and so's, usenet is a bit boistrous, but most
are far worse than uk.d-i-y they're all pussycats on here!

One thing you have got spot on is 'bottom posting', that is when you have
quoted someone, you put your bit at the bottom so it reads better and is
easier to follow. Also, you post in plain text which is correct.

It's not top, bottom or contextual posting AFAICS I don't see any of
what he's replying to

So it's google groups then

Pete - google for "thunderbird", it's an email / newsreader application,
and it works

there are several other free newsreaders out there too

--
geoff

"Andy Hall" wrote in message
news
On 9 Apr 2006 12:59:00 -0700, "gasman pete"
wrote:

Hi all, I am new to google groups and would like some advise on posting
and replying.

The first thing is not to use Google Groups for posting at all. It is
an attempt at a web front end for Internet News (Usenet) and fails
miserably as a means to post to it and to follow threads of messages.

....
The way to proceed is to get yourself a proper news reader program.
Free Agent is good, and even Outlook Express will do something
passable if used properly.

....

Pete,
*All* of Andy's post is spot on, get yourself a proper newsreader app.

--
Mike W

In article ,
VisionSet wrote:
One thing you have got spot on is 'bottom posting', that is when you have
quoted someone, you put your bit at the bottom so it reads better and is
easier to follow.

Whilst bottom posting is better than top posting it's still not correct. Read
the references I gave earlier.

--
John Cartmell john@ followed by finnybank.com 0845 006 8822
Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com
Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing

"John Cartmell" wrote in message
...
In article ,
VisionSet wrote:

One thing you have got spot on is 'bottom posting', that is when you
have
quoted someone, you put your bit at the bottom so it reads better and is
easier to follow.

Whilst bottom posting is better than top posting it's still not correct.
Read
the references I gave earlier.


Thanks, I realise that. I meant as in reading order. Better to post
guidelines though as you did.

--
Mike W

On 9 Apr 2006 12:59:00 -0700, "gasman pete"
wrote:

|Hi all, I am new to google groups and would like some advise on posting
|and replying.
|I hope people have a little patience with us ....students....thanks
|all.

You are not on google groups you are on *Usenet*.

As a student ask your uni/school sysop how to access usenet. See Sig.

--
Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk Google Groups is IME the *worst*
method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a
newsreader, say Agent, and a newsserver, say news.individual.net. These
will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies.

raden wrote:
In message , VisionSet
writes

"gasman pete" wrote in message
oups.com...

It seems all of a sudden you're not the only one
p.s. It's not a forum, it's a newsgroup
Where are you posting to exactly ?


ok so hello everyone could people please help me in this news group to
comply with the norm!!!
But first could someone please tell me what the norm is or where i can
find it out.
how do you want me to reply?
A little help would be greatfully recieved.
I am more than willing to help anyone if they need it how about some of
that good will coming over here...
sorry for bieng blunt but if you cant help how am I expected to
maintain standards.
pete

I've has a look at your few previous posts and I think I see the problem.
Don't be put off by stroppy so and so's, usenet is a bit boistrous, but most
are far worse than uk.d-i-y they're all pussycats on here!

One thing you have got spot on is 'bottom posting', that is when you have
quoted someone, you put your bit at the bottom so it reads better and is
easier to follow. Also, you post in plain text which is correct.

It's not top, bottom or contextual posting AFAICS I don't see any of
what he's replying to

So it's google groups then

There's nothing about Google groups that prevents you bottom posting
and quoting correctly. There does seem to be a problem, however, with
petty prejudices against people who choose to use it.

MBQ

Steve Firth wrote:
gasman pete wrote:
It seems all of a sudden you're not the only one
p.s. It's not a forum, it's a newsgroup
Where are you posting to exactly ?


ok so hello everyone could people please help me in this news group to
comply with the norm!!!
But first could someone please tell me what the norm is or where i can
find it out.
how do you want me to reply?
A little help would be greatfully recieved.
I am more than willing to help anyone if they need it how about some of
that good will coming over here...
sorry for bieng blunt but if you cant help how am I expected to
maintain standards.
pete

Well first off you should do a bit of looking around and get the clue
that Google do not provide or even support newsgroups they just leech
off the existing newsgroups, mostly known as Usenet but with several
other additions and local bits and pieces.

Secondly you should consider getting a news client rather than using
Google which doesn't display or format posts to newsgroups properly.

Perhaps not "properly" for you, but it works just fine.

MBQ

Dave Fawthrop wrote:
On 9 Apr 2006 12:59:00 -0700, "gasman pete"
wrote:

|Hi all, I am new to google groups and would like some advise on posting
|and replying.
|I hope people have a little patience with us ....students....thanks
|all.

You are not on google groups you are on *Usenet*.


Times change. Time to move on.

MBQ

Andy Hall wrote:
On 9 Apr 2006 12:59:00 -0700, "gasman pete"
wrote:

Hi all, I am new to google groups and would like some advise on posting
and replying.
I hope people have a little patience with us ....students....thanks
all.
pete


The first thing is not to use Google Groups for posting at all. It is
an attempt at a web front end for Internet News (Usenet) and fails
miserably as a means to post to it and to follow threads of messages.


Pete,

Just follow owains advice and you'll be fine with Google groups.

MBQ

In message .com,
writes

I've has a look at your few previous posts and I think I see the problem.
Don't be put off by stroppy so and so's, usenet is a bit boistrous, but most
are far worse than uk.d-i-y they're all pussycats on here!

One thing you have got spot on is 'bottom posting', that is when you have
quoted someone, you put your bit at the bottom so it reads better and is
easier to follow. Also, you post in plain text which is correct.

It's not top, bottom or contextual posting AFAICS I don't see any of
what he's replying to

So it's google groups then

There's nothing about Google groups that prevents you bottom posting
and quoting correctly. There does seem to be a problem, however, with
petty prejudices against people who choose to use it.

It's nothing to do with petty prejudices, it's a matter of people
posting without there being any reference to what they're replying to


--
geoff

On 10 Apr 2006 13:38:20 -0700, wrote:

snip

There's nothing about Google groups that prevents you bottom posting
and quoting correctly.

Can't argue with that. It *can* be done.

There does seem to be a problem, however, with
petty prejudices against people who choose to use it.

Nah, it ain't prejudice against people who use GG, it's prejudice against
people who are too bloody lazy to find out how to use it properly and
follow usenet conventions. Which happens to be a significant majority of GG
users. Present company excepted.

Having said that, a decent newsclient gives a much better interface to
usenet.

--
the dot wanderer at tesco dot net

In article .com
wrote:

Times change. Time to move on.

Bye then.